I believe you are correct, but it doesn't drain to the pools. It drains to the filter system then to the storage tanks.
I believe you are correct, but it doesn't drain to the pools. It drains to the filter system then to the storage tanks.
What about this "pool'?! Breach or planned testing too?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1372/...d9ff84aea6.jpg
That's the Hudson River encroaching. That dig-out by Brookfield sprung a leak on Thursday night:
Hudson River Wall Springs Leak Near World Trade Center
By Friday AM they said they had it contained, but the current view on the earthcam sure does seem to show that's it's nearly full with water! :eek:
see...even the river is trying to stop them from carrying out their evil stairless plans
Wow, that really brings up some crazy visions of what it would be like if the retaining wall sprung a large enough leak after the entire concourse had been built and opened. The entire concourse (and the museum for that matter) are below sea level. If, say, there were some kind of terrorist attack where they set off a bomb at the retaining wall, imagine the disaster that would follow... the Hudson River pouring into the concourse. The concourse is big enough that people would probably have enough time to evacuate, but within a few hours the entire place would be underwater. Hopefully the engineers foresee the same possibility and make sure to double up on their reinforcement of the slurry wall.
WOW.. and i thought it was some weather coating application..
amazing how THAT much water could leak in such a short time given how relatively far it is from the Harbor sea on the other side of the Winter Garden.
Good thing they approached the excavation from both sides and this happened at this stage.. so it can be mitigated. time for a trip to the WFC viewing platform for some pics.
I can see the drill now ... Huge air-tight steel doors slamming shut, sirens wailing. If this isn't in the cost estimate for the job it seems that Brookfield might need to add a few items to their "To Do" list.
The museum is not connected to the PATH hall in any major case, and is surrounded by walls of concrete. Even so, the slurry walls are behind three feet of reinforced concrete and steel. This was a minor error, nothing catastrophic.Quote:
Originally Posted by RKOwens44
A bomb would cause damage to the walls, yes, but only the fall of a tower would literally cause a breach in the wall, as it did on 9/11.
I had thought that everything across West Street was dry land, but it seems that the Hudson inevitably flows underneath those residential buildings and the World Financial Center. Remember, the original shoreline of New York was at Greenwich Street, or at the bases of Silverstein's towers.
On a side note: Not to sound morbid or degrade the memorial (I am a fan of Arad's concept, and I think it will be beautiful and moving when it comes to fruition) but, just by the very nature of its design, it seems all too easy for a visitor who is mentally disturbed or under the influence to climb over the parapets and jump.
I live in Baton Rouge. Last Saturday, I was driving by our state capitol building and had a little free time on my hands so I went up to the observation deck on the top of the building (27th floor... I know it's nothing compared to the WTC or ESB but it's still the tallest building in our city). There's literally nothing more than a 3-4 foot wall blocking you from the side of the building. I remember thinking that if anyone wanted to commit suicide, it would be so easy for them just to jump over, but the thing is... if someone wants to kill themself, they can find a way with no problem. They can pick up a gun from freakin' Wal-Mart. They can jump in traffic. So making things "suicide proof" should not be a concern of engineers, only "accident proof". I think the memorial pools are adequately accident proof because even if someone does slip over the parepet, they will still land in an 8-foot wide upper part of the waterfalls (at plaza level), and even at the edge of this there's a 2 or so foot tall weir blocking you from the edge of the waterfall. Also, even if someone wanted to commit suicide, this would be the stupidest way since the 30 foot fall almost certainly wouldn't kill you anyway, you'd probably just break your legs and look like a complete idiot to the people above.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigMac
More photos of the Brookfield / WFC water incident today at CURBED
Earthcam shows they are now laying out some big steel girders across the ground at the eastern edge of the WFC pit.
They had a small komatsu excavator down there, i wonder if its under all that water
What's this about demolishing the WFC stairs? To make more room for the hub?
Nah, to make the swimming pool bigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by mariab
Oh, well in that case...:()Quote:
Originally Posted by HoveringCheesecake