WTC Memorial - by Michael Arad (Architect) and Peter Walker (Landscape)

The National Park Service operates many historic, memorial, battlefield, and cemetery sites - not just what we consider parks.

Civil War sites, such as Gettysburg, Yorktown, and Vicksburg.

Korean War Memorial, Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

Disaster sites, such as the Johnstown Flood National Memorial.

Several sites in NYC - Grant's Tomb, Federal Hall, Hamilton Grange.

The WTC memorial was given the name National September 11 Memorial and Museum.

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But Debra Burlingame, co-founder of 9/11 Families for a Safe & Strong America, said a takeover would be an insult to the foundation, which raised $450 million for the memorial.

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Is it so much of an insult to be a fundraising arm? I think it's honorable work.

If anyone should be insulted, it's the people who gave money to this organization.

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“For the Park Service to come in now doesn’t make sense,” said Burlingame, a foundation board member whose brother was the pilot aboard the jet that struck the Pentagon.

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Maybe that's true, but she needs to explain why. Just saying it doesn't make sense doesn't make it true.

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Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp

The National Park Service operates many historic, memorial, battlefield, and cemetery sites - not just what we consider parks.

Civil War sites, such as Gettysburg, Yorktown, and Vicksburg.

Korean War Memorial, Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

Disaster sites, such as the Johnstown Flood National Memorial.

Several sites in NYC - Grant's Tomb, Federal Hall, Hamilton Grange.

The WTC memorial was given the name National September 11 Memorial and Museum.

Is it so much of an insult to be a fundraising arm? I think it's honorable work.

If anyone should be insulted, it's the people who gave money to this organization.

Maybe that's true, but she needs to explain why. Just saying it doesn't make sense doesn't make it true.

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*raises hand*

I don't know what the solution is for the museum, but the people running the show right now certainly aren't doing a good job.

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Originally Posted by BigMac

Julie Wood, a Bloomberg spokeswoman, said a handover would mire the site in political infighting.

“The majority of family members just want the museum open already,” Wood said.

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The "infighting" is already in full swing; that's why nothing has happened at the Museum for the past many months.

Little Mike will be done as mayor in just over a year.

Will he try to retain control of the Memorial site even when he's out of office? That move wouldn't surprise me but, once he becomes simply a private citizen, by what grant would he have that authority?

Better to sort this out now, and look to the longterm future of the site.

From last September:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6208/6...78da366d_b.jpg
(luluinnyc on Flickr)

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Originally Posted by IrishInNYC

I don't think it has a place on the memorial plaza, at least not within the vicinity of the pools, that place has changed in meaning and importance. If not in the museum (where it might never be seen!) I'd like to see it placed somewhere less conspicuous and yet part of the area. Perhaps north of the Transit Hall below T2 or as part of the park above the VSC.

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I can understand both sides of this argument, but I reluctantly agree with this.

It seems that expectations on what a memorial should be have changed over the decades, and the line between memorial and museum has become blurred. This is starkly evident in considering the almost complete FDR Memorial on Roosevelt Island. Would this type of memorial be designed today? If Louis Kahn were alive and got the commission, would he have produced something similar?

It's worth comparing the Four Freedoms Memorial to the FDR Memorial in Washington DC, completed in 1997, which tells a twelve-year story in four outdoor rooms.

You inevitably get photos like this:
http://supervisors.sonoma-county.org...r-memorial.jpg

Maybe the mistake in the WTC memorial was not incorporating the Sphere in the original design-competition parameters.

Seems like a no brainer to me -

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5111/7...29ed0b99_b.jpg
(milo-bot on Flickr)

whats going on with the south pool?
from other angles it looks like they have a bit of equipment down in the water, and I've never seen those
red lights before??
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b.../southpool.jpg

Those aren't lights, those are cones. They clean the pools at night when the park is closed, because apparently algae is growing at the bottom of the pools.

^ That. They scrub the bottom of the pool at night now and then. The oranges cones are the highly effective method of keeping workers from falling into the nether regions of the fountain.

thank youse, (i thought the bottom looked awfully green).

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...12_964x582.jpg
(Reuters)

Very beautiful!

http://www.bellenews.com/wp-content/...jacked-jet.jpg
(Associated Press)

Case Studies:

CIM
Siemens and Delta Fountains