What is the Memorial for?
The idea of what the memorial/memorial center is for is a good one. In terms of educating people, people can read articles, books, see movies, or get stuff off the internet to educate themselves. There is no need for a complex to do education. But here, the education can can be done with artifacts, which can add context to the education.
Originally Posted by Jake
But in reality, a good portion of what goes on with tourists is rubbernecking. They come here to feel they are more complete because they are able to feel sad. For some, it enhances their feeling of this country as victem (remember the Republican National Convention?). The point is that the Memorial/Memorial Center will be largely a timed and controlled emotional ride.
What's interesting is why family members feel this use of the "sacred" ground is more important than people looking at art or attending a performance. Why are tourist uses so honored while ongoing life activities are so horibble. Remember, family members used to be offended by the tourists, and photo taking was prohibited. Now we are recreating it so people can stop and stare to their hearts content.
If you ever walk down Church Street, look at where the crowds are. There will be a few people looking at the history of downtown, a few at the list of names, but most crowd around the recounting of the attacks. People want explosions, smoke, fire, and collapsing buildings. And servicing them is better than having a dance performance?
A place exclusively for family members to mourn, as can be seen in the diagrams, could be quite small.
Again - Take back the memorial
Thank you lofter, and others, for a civil and relevant comment.
Originally Posted by lofter1
To my original point: abut the WTC memorial. We are at the "take back the memorial.org" stage. - My imput on the WTC memorial is to listen to the "families of 911 group" who have IMO other/better ideas of the WTC memorial.
My responce was to another post who stated that "the families of 911" need to get out of the WTC memorial debate. REad below. (by Davestanke) "If Take Back the Memorial would stop attacking these good efforts, the memorial and cultural pieces of the WTC would come together. But they won't."
My point was and is that the WTC memorial is mired in controversey, and that is commonly accepted knowledge - unity of purpose is needed - I believe the families of 911 know to do to put the WTC memorial back on track.
support for "takebackthememorial.org" nuf said.
My responce was in opposition to the above statement - he wants that groupe out - obviously. I am simply stating my support for the "familiesof911.org" and siting my reasons for it: nothing more.
Originally Posted by davestanke
Anger, they are angry at everyone who disagrees
The involved people are still in the state of anger. They are angry at anyone who doesn't give them what they want. Maintaining their anger is important for their positions. They have to keep that emotion going to maintain their power. People not involved have gone through other stages, I expect. Many are remarried and moving on with life. But for some, sustaining power and influence mandates that they not move on in any way, at least not in public.
Originally Posted by Ninjahedge
2 bad things: Frozen waterfalls and reduced footprints
I don't post here often but I am an architect (know Michael Arad personally) and think that the waterfalls having to be turned off in cold weather is bad and the reduced footprints is even worse.
The potential for frozen waterfalls (which most every landscape designer and architect predicted) is just a weakness in the initial design concept, and could be easily overcome by slight changes to the design and a little heated water (if someone wanted to pay for that).
The reduced footprints size is a much greater affront to the spirit of the memorial because it quite literally minimizes the importance of 9/11. I am constantly amazed (but not completely surprised) at how the memorial is made to take the back seat to what is essentially now a real estate endeavor. (It's a lot like watching the craven machinations of the Bush administration- just when you think you've seen it all, they do something worse.) The worst part of all this is that people's lives, and the survivor's families, are being marginalized- witness the current court proceedings on the disposition of the Fresh Kills burial remains. I don't see how anyone can complain about their role in fighting for what they think is best for the memorial- I wouldn't want to be in their places.