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    SOM NY (Childs) did the basic design for Bear...

    SOM NY (Childs) did the basic design for Bear Stearns. BS wasn't originally happy with the facade treatment and SOM Chicago (Adrian Smith a man of real talent) redid/refined the facade including the...
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    I have absolutely no problem with a "mall" at...

    I have absolutely no problem with a "mall" at Penn Station. The concept works well in every major world city I've been to in Asia, Australia, and Europe. The knee jerk reaction against it in NY is...
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    That's not the train station, its the base of the...

    That's not the train station, its the base of the tower.

    Interestingly the tower has 2 cores. Its also a mixed use tower much like the Time Warner Center here in NY with offices, condos, and...
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    Well, if ever there was a good place to put the...

    Well, if ever there was a good place to put the huge number of workers that 2 1400 foot towers would hold its on top of Penn St. The transportation is the best the city has to offer.
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    The lavish, original Penn Sta. made perfect sense...

    The lavish, original Penn Sta. made perfect sense as a corporate symbol for a highly profitable railroad rolling in money. Plus, it was designed to work well for the passenger.

    Times have changed...
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    Penn is currently overloaded and needs to be...

    Penn is currently overloaded and needs to be expanded, hence the project.



    That is exactly the plan. I understood your original post to mean move everything to the Farley.


    Because the...
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    ^ Farley itself is not properly positioned over...

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    Farley itself is not properly positioned over the tracks nor is it big enough to handle all the traffic for the LIRR, Amtrak, and NJT. Therefore your idea of making 1 grand stating in Farley would...
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    ^I think the Hearst comparison is apropos.

    ^I think the Hearst comparison is apropos.
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    A 700 foot tower next to the 750 foot 1 Penn...

    A 700 foot tower next to the 750 foot 1 Penn Plaza isn't going to change any views of the ESB. They're on the same block, impact will be nil.
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    ^I'm not trying to claim they are aesthetically...

    ^I'm not trying to claim they are aesthetically pleasing. I am trying to explain why NY does not build like London and Paris, or other major European hubs. No where in Europe has ever had the highly...
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    Again, the land above the tracks is too valuable...

    Again, the land above the tracks is too valuable in NY to just cover it with a shed. The GC tracks have the Met Life and Helmsley Building on top of them as well as a large number of other towers....
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    When was the last time a road was widened in...

    When was the last time a road was widened in Manhattan?
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    The design of the 2/3 Wall St. station was...

    The design of the 2/3 Wall St. station was dictated by the fact they had to do cut and cover of a very narrow street to build it. It simply wasn't feasible to carve into the basements of the building...
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    True, you get what you make but it has never been...

    True, you get what you make but it has never been a NY thing to waste space that could be making money. ;)

    I'm still not sure how Calatrava is going to bring much light down to the PATH station....
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    Manhattan simple doesn't have the space (at least...

    Manhattan simple doesn't have the space (at least economically) to expose our underground platforms to much light. The air rights above them are too useful.

    If we had more space and our train came...
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    ^Amtrak will move there eventually. Things move...

    ^Amtrak will move there eventually. Things move ever so slowly here. Amtrak just needs the Acela disaster to become history and then it'll again be politically acceptable to talk about them moving.
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    I've never really noticed that there is a lot of...

    I've never really noticed that there is a lot of street traffic in and out of Penn Station on 8th. It seems the vast majority of it comes from the subways or will continue to enter the complex...
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    Indeed, they used to but Amtrak recently spent a...

    Indeed, they used to but Amtrak recently spent a bit to bring them down the west side into Penn instead of Grand Central so that connections to the NE corridor trains would be convenient.
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    Path doesn't got to Penn. Its over on 6th Ave.

    Path doesn't got to Penn. Its over on 6th Ave.
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    If the government paid for ownership, right of...

    If the government paid for ownership, right of way, maintenance, and upgrades of the rails as they do for streets, highways, and freeways then mass transit and intercity rail could both be...
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    The sad thing is that very minimal amounts of...

    The sad thing is that very minimal amounts of money need to be spent to fix the capacity problems at Penn. All that needs to be done is for the unions to agree that NJ Transit and LIRR trains can run...
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    New Penn Station

    Isn't that pink area to the right underground? It looks like its under the subway.
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