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    Lets not overstate the importance of this project...

    Lets not overstate the importance of this project

    While it is important, the 7 train extension is NOT the most important project in nyc in 100 years...

    i mean think about it

    -modern...
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    If you like dirty, old, smelly, and overcrowded...

    If you like dirty, old, smelly, and overcrowded trains.... then the A train is for you!
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    The city did not drive the IRT and the BMT out of...

    The city did not drive the IRT and the BMT out of buisness... it simply built its own subway line.. the IND.

    If the IRT and the BMT were operating a brisk operation, they surley would have been...
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    Historically speaking, I'm not quite sure if...

    Historically speaking, I'm not quite sure if "privitization" is the answer to everything. I will try to privide three examples:

    1) The NYC subways used to be run by private companies. The IRT and...
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    I will also add in my voice..... Subways in...

    I will also add in my voice.....

    Subways in Chicago and Atlanta are clean?


    It is difficult to compare the NYC transit system to other cities, especially in America... because NYC is by far...
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    Hamilton: The congestion charge isn't about...

    Hamilton:

    The congestion charge isn't about limiting sprawl and development, its about getting people to use mass transit instead of cars. I don't see how that would have the effect that you...
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    Some Subways Found Packed Past Capacity ...

    Some Subways Found Packed Past Capacity
    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/26/nyregion/mta600_2.jpg Kitra Cahana/The New York Times
    Passengers packed into a No. 4 train at Grand Central...
  8. Poll: I hate to restart this old topic but even...

    I hate to restart this old topic

    but even though Jersey City is across state lines, we still operate as one Metro-area.

    While a major office tower in Jersey might not bring New York tax...
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    I think the reason they gave, was that the new...

    I think the reason they gave, was that the new generation of subway lines built in this city, would be mixed between an express and local. Trains would operate at 70 mph and go between stations...
  10. cmon Bkrider....... Say what you REALLY...

    cmon Bkrider.......

    Say what you REALLY mean......

    :)
  11. I wouldn't exactly refer to Madison Square Garden...

    I wouldn't exactly refer to Madison Square Garden as a wonder of architecture...

    In any sense... the MSG area is usually pretty crowded... because its above Penn station...

    Daytime activity......
  12. Atlantic Yards adds nothing? It adds an entire...

    Atlantic Yards adds nothing?

    It adds an entire dense neigborhood.

    Retail.. thousands of square feet. ( shopping district next to a transit hub)

    Housing, thousands of new residents...........
  13. Im not so sure about that. When this project...

    Im not so sure about that.

    When this project is completed, it will effectively extend Downtown Brooklyn as most people will consider it part of Downtown Brooklyn.

    Neighborhoods in New York...
  14. I hate to point this out.... Doesn't Ratner...

    I hate to point this out....

    Doesn't Ratner still own Metro-Tech? A project he started in 1987, about 20 years ago?

    Metro-tech was a similar project requiring some subsidies from the city. He...
  15. The Atlantic Terminal is a great mall.... much...

    The Atlantic Terminal is a great mall.... much better than Atlantic Center. From my understanding, it holds the second most profitable target in the country...

    The architecture isn't first rate.....
  16. But is he saying this because he is a politician...

    But is he saying this because he is a politician trying to appease both sides.. or is he saying this because he honestly feels it. I dont believe Marty is stupid.. he knows that the hieght wont have...
  17. Im shocked... This is actually seems to be an...

    Im shocked...

    This is actually seems to be an objective article from the Brooklyn Papers...
    I hope they maintain this level of reporting.
  18. Hmm.. are you sure.. the developer has already...

    Hmm.. are you sure.. the developer has already stated that the reason for the size of the project is so that the project (the areana) can sustain itself. He has made a brilliant move by planning alot...
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    I dont think Baltimore will ever be a suburb of...

    I dont think Baltimore will ever be a suburb of Washington, especially since it is bigger than Washington in population. Baltimore has a STRONG identity. i.e. people will never think of John Hopkins...
  20. But it still doesent beat many parts of Brooklyn,...

    But it still doesent beat many parts of Brooklyn, Queens and JC, where subway service is often situated on the block or perhaps on the neighborhing block. From there, subway service will take you...
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    Brooklyn has MANY decent neighborhoods.. we just...

    Brooklyn has MANY decent neighborhoods.. we just went over the list... Although I disagree with the criteria that you use to judge "nice neighborhoods" I will play your game. The "nice section" still...
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    Ive lived in Brooklyn all my life, and I continue...

    Ive lived in Brooklyn all my life, and I continue to watch as the borough grows, evolves and chages.

    Flatbush is NOT dirty and ugly. Even when people describe ghetto's, flatbush is usually not...
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    couldn't the Staten Island railway be connected...

    couldn't the Staten Island railway be connected via tunnel to the second avenue line?
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    It happened when New York City won Staten Island...

    It happened when New York City won Staten Island from New Jersery in a boatrace. No seriously. New York one the boat race, and it became richmond country, and was incorporated in nyc soon after
    ...
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    Would it really be that hard for the second...

    Would it really be that hard for the second avenue line to be extended to another borough. Although I am from Brooklyn, and I think that a line would be great down Flatbush avenue to Kings Plaza, the...
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