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  1. Poll: BTW, for those who haven't seen it, this is a...

    BTW, for those who haven't seen it, this is a cool documentary focusing on the original hotel at the WTC on 9/11 which I saw recently... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROe3fyAZt_k
  2. Poll: Downtown Manhattan is also becoming much more of...

    Downtown Manhattan is also becoming much more of a tourist destination than it was prior to 9/11, hence the reason for the new hotels to keep up with demand. Obviously if the PA were going to decide...
  3. Poll: I never liked the idea of a Performing Arts...

    I never liked the idea of a Performing Arts Center at the WTC site in the first place. The WTC is an office center, with some retail and a train station. If you want to build an art theater, put it...
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    To anyone who lives in NYC, would you mind...

    To anyone who lives in NYC, would you mind snapping and posting a few pics of the new WFC pavilion rapidly going up? I know it's not really a part of 1WTC, but it's still cool and one thing I've...
  5. Then they should never have called them...

    Then they should never have called them reflecting pools! Can you at least agree to that point? A reflecting pool has a very, very specific meaning, and it's not open to interpretation into some...
  6. Is this your idea of a joke? Michael Arad in...

    Is this your idea of a joke? Michael Arad in this quote describes them as two square voids. Well, duh. The ENTIRE issue here is about their color and non-reflectivity.



    Yes, this is totally...
  7. ?????!!!!! What does it say? If you respond to...

    ?????!!!!! What does it say? If you respond to nothing else in this message, please tell me what you think it says. You mentioned how there will be 3,000 names around the pools, I came back saying I...
  8. I was quoting YOU! "swirling into the deeper...

    I was quoting YOU!

    "swirling into the deeper darker depths of the lower central void..."

    The only difference is that I used the word black instead of dark. If you'd prefer dark void instead of...
  9. Take a look at the last picture I posted. No...

    Take a look at the last picture I posted. No matter HOW you feel about it, a simple fact is that the dominate color within the pool is black, yes? I explained earlier that the dominating symbolism...
  10. If it was their intention for the pools to be...

    If it was their intention for the pools to be black voids, this would have been the easiest thing in the world to depict in a rendering. I mean, literally. Just show the base and walls as black...
  11. PLEASE tell me you aren't suggesting that the...

    PLEASE tell me you aren't suggesting that the design of the 9/11 memorial should pay tribute to death and destruction. Before you try to say I'm making a straw-man argument, I just want to be clear...
  12. Two questions: Do you know the meaning of a...

    Two questions: Do you know the meaning of a straw-man argument? And do you know the definition of irony? Because what I said was not a straw-man AT ALL. In post #4153 scumonkey gave his opinion: "The...
  13. I created a new username (RKOwens44) because I...

    I created a new username (RKOwens44) because I lost the password to my original account (RKOwens4) about a year ago and didn't have access to my old email or something, but I've been following the...
  14. ??????!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!! In the 3 or 4...

    ??????!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!! In the 3 or 4 years that I've been posting on this forum, this is the most outrageous thing I've ever heard. This is like someone saying, "I don't believe anyone...
  15. Huh? The design of the WTC memorial is two...

    Huh? The design of the WTC memorial is two reflecting pools. We can debate whether the title "Reflecting Absense" was supposed to refer to internal reflection or the pools themselves reflecting...
  16. From 911memorial.com, apparently taken by Michael...

    From 911memorial.com, apparently taken by Michael Arad himself:

    http://www.911memorial.org/sites/all/files/imagecache/blog_post_medium/blog/images/MemorialWaterfall.jpg

    I'm starting to think...
  17. ^^ It's not so bad, kinda reminds me of the...

    ^^ It's not so bad, kinda reminds me of the windows on the WFC buildings, which are also perfectly flush with the masonry.
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    On Discovery Channel I'm watching a show about...

    On Discovery Channel I'm watching a show about the killing of bin Laden and there was just an awesome advertisement for "The Rising" (the Steven Spielberg produced documentary we've been hearing...
  19. By Ron Vega, 911memorial.com: ...

    By Ron Vega, 911memorial.com:

    http://www.911memorial.org/sites/all/files/imagecache/blog_post_medium/blog/images/MemorialGlade.JPG
  20. Just to be clear, you are being sarcastic,...

    Just to be clear, you are being sarcastic, correct? :rolleyes: I count at least eight covering an area the size of less than a quarter city block.

    BTW, 4WTC looks awesome in that pic.
  21. According to this video on the memorial... ...

    According to this video on the memorial...

    http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2011-08-11-Lower-Manhattan-New-York-City_n.htm?csp=YahooModule_Travel

    ...there will be kiosks on the plaza...
  22. Wow, I'm jealous, I've admired his courage for...

    Wow, I'm jealous, I've admired his courage for years and years (he appears in at least a dozen documentaries). I've always believed and still do that if there's ever a movie that tries to tell the...
  23. Even though that flagpole (if that's indeed what...

    Even though that flagpole (if that's indeed what it is) is right where the flag in the famous photo below was located (right in front of the Marriot Hotel), it's still a god awful place to put a...
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    It's working fine now.

    It's working fine now.
  25. I'm sure our man Zen would have been able to tell...

    I'm sure our man Zen would have been able to tell us all off the top of his head. :( Probably it's just a temporary hatch type thing to lower mechanical equipment into that area, similar to the...
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