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Pataki bled the MTA and mortgaged their future through bonds for his entire tenure. The chickens are coming home to roost. Add to that they the new attitude of the politically appointed MTA...

The building is triangular shaped and you're looking at the pointy angle in the renders. Foster's kissing towers had much the same optical illusion from certain angles.

SOM NY (Childs) did the basic design for Bear Stearns. BS wasn't originally happy with the facade treatment and SOM Chicago (Adrian Smith a man of real talent) redid/refined the facade including the...

I agree completely. Photos don't do the building justice. I've never seen a building that is so different in person.

I think the building is fairly fantastic but the crown fails when seen from a...

Yes, I should have said "can't do it within the developers budget and requirements".

I also don't think there are any really good architects interested in doing some retro-style buildings that...

Piano remains one of my favorite architects. His designs are always very crisp, subtle and sophisticated and I've always applauded his use of color.

Having said that the yellow in this building...

I liked that plan quite a lot too but I think the reality of it is that there just isn't any architects that can really do that retro-style at all well anymore. I'm afraid we'd end up with a complex...

I think the large gap between 2 and 3 where the Path station will be as well as Liberty Park diagonally across from 4 will alleviate the "wall" feeling.

That's good to know. That's a big improvement from what I originally thought. Its why I'm reserving judgement until I get to the model myself this weekend.

It definitely does a better job of that than most but neither 31st or 32nd streets go all the way through either between 10th and 11th Ave.'s nor 11th and the river.

DOH! Wht didn't I think of that. lol



First, I'm not shocked at all that its the most popular. I was simply trying to get some specific comments/conversation about what people like about it....

I see Brookfield is far ahead in the poll.

For those of you choosing Brookfield, what are you basing it on? Is it simply the towers look cool in the skyline shot or is it something else? Does...

Certainly not the same politics as the WTC but much like the Canary Wharf the master plan architects will probably get the main building or two but other office towers will probably be different...

I think if anything was to be learned from the WTC proposals its that the buildings in these types of site plan proposals are just placeholders and general concepts. The actual buildings will look...

http://gothamist.com/2007/11/19/west_side_yards.php

Brookfield (Skidmore, Owings & Merrill and Field Operations; buildings designed by SOM, Thomas Phifer & Partners, SHoP rchitects, Diller...

The rods at the top do work much better from street level than when seen for a distance as a skyline element. (Hearst is another building that works better from the street than for the distance).
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I have absolutely no problem with a "mall" at Penn Station. The concept works well in every major world city I've been to in Asia, Australia, and Europe. The knee jerk reaction against it in NY is...

Don't confuse MTA sub stations with Con Edison sub stations. For instance, the one on 7th in Chelsea is Con Ed. It has nothing to do with the TA.

Buying land from the TA is much more expensive because of the politcal/public review process etc. etc. etc. A small time developer who would put up at max 4 condos on the site is highly unlikely to...

The lots is way too angular and there's a height restriction.

Its been tied up for ages by the neighborhood, the CB and Tommy Duane. The TA needs to do a ventilation project for the 1/2/3 and A/C/E lines and the lot is right where the 2 of them cross at...

The Transit Authority.

Stretching it taller might require additional elevator banks which would dimish floor space and each and every floor. The loss on ~70 floors would be a lot to make up never mind the additional space...

Actually, the trellised space is not 60 Wall's lobby. It is public space. There's direct access to the subway, public restrooms, retail and free wifi even. Think of it as a covered public park. Oh,...

My guess is the tower portion will go on the Park Ave. side of the block with the existing base being renovated with the main entrance on Madison facing the park.