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November 3rd, 2009, 05:47 AM
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Lofter: oh stupid and "easily misled" one, apart from your sticky ball, how do feel about your switch to the Mac? Do you feel that you were over charged... that you didn't get your money's worth?
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November 3rd, 2009, 09:26 AM
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#64
November 3rd, 2009, 09:29 AM
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Oh God. That's irony.
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#65
November 3rd, 2009, 10:33 AM
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Wow. NASA.
Great Teno. Can you please come back to earth and show more than a small sliver of the engineering community. Don't bother, I already know they aren't there, but that is not enough. Apple has to be perfect. 
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November 3rd, 2009, 11:24 AM
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And guys honestly: I want you all to show me what I would have to buy and how much it would cost to get the equivalent of the Mac I posted. That Mac is an all-in-one... but even if it were separate units how much would it run?
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November 3rd, 2009, 11:28 AM
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November 3rd, 2009, 11:36 AM
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No phone, no lights, no motor cars.
Not a single luxury. Like Robinson Crusoe, as primitive as can be.
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November 3rd, 2009, 12:12 PM
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Moneywise: For non-techies (I dare to say that covers most of the purchasing public) there are all sorts of assorted costs (not to mention the time spent) when buying a new computer & getting it up & running. No doubt many (myself included) end up having to pay a pro to get things in order, not to mention the cost of the add-on programs needed to get optimal use out of the chosen machine. So far, for me with my new Mac (which came with pretty much everything I need, although I've added a few things I've downloaded & installed for free) those costs have been minimal to non-existant. And no Anti-virus program with yearly costs needed. The fact that there is an Apple Store a mere few blocks away has been a great help -- and a big reason why I chose to move to Mac. Although getting an appointment at the Apple Emergency Room -- ooops, Genius Bar -- can be a pain if not impossible within the time frames that Apple's scheduling allows -- unless one wants to travel to the Staten Island store, as has been suggested to me by Apple-tons on more than one occasion  .It's a machine & it's made by humans, so it's not going to be perfect or trouble free. But I've found the Mac is much less troublesome and far more intuitively usable than my older PC. It will be interesting to see where I stand on this 2 - 3 years down the road, when this one will supposedly be ancient and in need of total replacement. Current Satisfaction Rating: 8 (out of 10).
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November 3rd, 2009, 12:45 PM
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The boon and bane of the PC is its versitility/choice of composition.
When you have so many different choices, you get competition and some interesting combos (some as easy as assembling a lego house). But you can also get a nightmare in a box. Just like Linux requires even MORE technical savvy (I got it running, but had problems, did not like some of the software, etc), the PC, in general, requires you to do some looking around. But what you get is a TOTL full size PC for under $2000. Add a screen and you may get something different (good screens are anywhere from $300 to $1300 depending on size, refresh rate, resolution, etc). The thing that has rankled me about Apple is their air of superiority, as professed in many of their ads. Not "buy us because we are better", but "buy us because anyone who doesn't is not cool, or is a geek, or dresses badly". The machine itself HAS its boons, but you never HEAR about them. Reminds me a lot of the BOSE ads, although Bose in and of itself does not compare to the workmanship in a Mac, the commercials are similar with no comparisons or stats, just fluid descriptive terms used to promote their product intended to get you to "feel" good about their product, and its price. I guess what I am saying is that there are a few things. If Apple was more up front about it and simply called out that they cost more, but what you were getting is a less techie, more consumer supported and more easily interchangable machine, I would not mind, but they know that will not sell. It annoys me when something can be sold NOT on its merits alone (whether it as them, like Mac, or does NOT, like BOSE) but on what they can convince the consumer is best for them without any real proof. Oh, question, as I found on another site, what was with the "upgrade" from 10.3 to 10.4? (was that the #?) Something like $30 for pretty much a patch (something like SP1, SP2 and SP3 for XP) and not a complete overhaul? The prices on the OS are much better to start, but why charge for an intermediate patch? Has this been done before, or is this the accounting department realizing they can make more money? And finally, do you think they will EVER try and release an OS for the PC? They are already runnnig on Intel chips. M$ is making lots of money on their OS and other proggies, there has to be some motivation for doing this, or do you think they really ARE doing this and we are seeing evidence of this in W7 (remember M$ bought shares in Apple a while back, I forget what the deal was). Are we actually looking at a well concealed monopoly selling to two different sects of people and convincing them that they are completely unrelated and different when they are, in fact, the same company? (Collusion?) That would not change the actual product line, but it would change how they handle the financial end....
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#73
November 3rd, 2009, 03:29 PM
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I'm sold! (uh... did you ever think that maybe Apple's on to something?)
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November 3rd, 2009, 04:02 PM
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