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    No fantasy island, N.Y.U.’s grand plan to build is beginning now

    By Lincoln Anderson


    New York University’s ideas for Washington Square Village now focus on creating a “Rockefeller Center”-like
    pedestrian space in the complex’s middle, while adding new buildings at both ends of this new public mall.

    After New York University’s NYU 2031 expansion plan was recently leaked — by an unknown source — to two local newspapers, one of the newspapers’ articles, and most of the subsequent media reports, focused on the university’s relatively far-off hopes to develop up to 1 million square feet of facilities on Governors Island. The Governors Island angle was admittedly the “sexy” urban planning story.

    However, missing in the hyped-up coverage was the fact that N.Y.U. plans to start immediately on its expansion plans for its two South Village superblocks, part of its strategy of adding 1.5 million to 2 million square feet of space in its Washington Square-area campus “core.”

    Top N.Y.U. officials laid out the university’s sweeping expansion plan, under which the university aims to increase its space by 40 percent by 2031, in a March 24 meeting with Downtown Express.

    Under the ambitious scheme, the university would add 240,000 square feet of space annually over the next 25 years, while its student body would grow by up to 4,000 over the same period, though with most of these students being added at N.Y.U.’s now dozen international campuses.
    N.Y.U. currently houses 54 percent of its 21,000 undergraduate students, and envisions eventually increasing this number to 60 percent, if there’s demand. Likewise, the university houses 14 percent of its 21,000 graduate students, and foresees boosting this figure to 24 percent. The university also needs transient housing for students and faculty visiting from its new Abu Dhabi campus and its 11 other global sites.

    Lynne Brown, N.Y.U. senior vice president, said the university will imminently be putting forward a general large-scale development plan for its superblocks — the two extra-large blocks located between W. Third and Houston Sts. and Mercer St. and LaGuardia Place. The approval process will take one to two years, she said, and will include “a massive E.I.S.,” or environmental impact statement.

    Key components of the superblocks plan are adding a fourth residential tower on the southern of the two blocks; a new mixed-use building, dubbed “the zipper building,” on the site of the current Coles gym on the same block; and, on the northern block, two new buildings bookending the open space in the middle of Washington Square Village.

    In addition N.Y.U. has agreed to build a 600-seat public elementary school somewhere on one of the superblocks to help alleviate the district’s pressing school overcrowding problem.

    On the southern superblock, the three existing buildings in the I.M. Pei-designed University Village — which includes the two N.Y.U. Silver Towers and 505 LaGuardia Place, a moderate-income co-op — are 30 stories tall. The new residential tower would be about 40 stories and would house faculty — possibly for visiting professors from what N.Y.U. is dubbing its “Global Networked University” — Abu Dhabi and all the rest.

    “Part of [N.Y.U. President] John Sexton’s philosophy is a global university — people move around a lot,” explained John Beckman, the university’s spokesperson.

    Faculty housing is “an important recruiting tool — we recruit from around the country and internationally,” Beckman added.

    Although the University Village complex was landmarked in 2008, N.Y.U. hopes to add the new fourth tower within its grounds. The university bought the property at the block’s northwestern corner, including the Morton Williams supermarket, at Bleecker St. and LaGuardia Place, close to 10 years ago, with the intent of developing on it. But opposition from residents of 505 LaGuardia Place, and N.Y.U.’s subsequent desire to create a “pinwheel” (when viewed from above) design, offering better light and view corridors, has N.Y.U. wanting instead to build the new tower a bit more to the east, on the northern edge of the University Village complex.

    “It’s what the I.M. Pei towers want: They don’t want a building on the Morton Williams site,” Brown explained of the “pinwheel” configuration.

    If N.Y.U.’s preferred option is rejected by the city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission, however, Brown said, the university can always still go back and try to develop on the Morton Williams site. N.Y.U. would also add space underground on the block.

    N.Y.U. plans to start first on the Coles gym site, which is not landmarked. The university intends to raze the existing, outmoded gym, which lacks even air conditioning, and rebuild on the spot with a building that will step back in height from 14 to 17 stories, similar in height to the buildings on the east side of Mercer St., as well to Washington Square Village, on the block to the north.

    Informally dubbed the “zipper building” for now, because of its in-and-out facade along Mercer St., the new structure would sport a gym belowground, plus retail, including a new supermarket, on the ground floor, and on the floors above, would have academic space and student residences.

    Brown admitted that Coles, had made the corner of East Houston and Mercer Sts. “a dead space,” and said that, under the new plan, the university would be enlivening this spot for the community in the form of the new retail. The new supermarket would be built first, and only then would the Morton Williams supermarket, at Bleecker St. and LaGuardia Place, be demolished, with that corner site, in turn, transformed into a green space open to the public. By staging the project this way, the community would never be left without a supermarket, Brown noted.

    N.Y.U. would like to build the “zipper building” out to the edge of Mercer St., meaning it would need permission from the Department of Transportation to take over the strip of property — now occupied by the Mercer St. Dog Run and a rundown seating area and playground — on Coles’s eastern edge. In return, N.Y.U. would widen a little-known passageway on Coles’s west side, which is the remnant of Greene St. on the superblock, which would be for public use. Meanwhile, the Mercer St. Dog Run would be relocated into the southeastern corner of the University Village complex.

    If all goes according to schedule, work could begin on the Coles site by 2012, Brown said. For the first 10 years, N.Y.U. would concentrate its efforts within its campus core on the southern superblock. Over the next 10 years, it would turn its energies to developing more space on the Washington Square Village superblock, on the other side of Bleecker St.

    The biggest news about N.Y.U.’s thinking on Washington Square Village, though, is that demolishing the existing buildings is now off the table. The development’s residents reacted in outrage at the demolition scenario two years ago.

    “No demolition at Washington Square Village,” assured Brown.

    “First of all, you don’t rebuild buildings that are sustainable,” Alicia Hurley, N.Y.U. vice president for government affairs and community engagement, explained of the school’s decision not to raze the complex. “Plus, where are you going to put 1,000 families when you do that?”

    The new plan is for N.Y.U. to lower the open space in the middle of Washington Square Village to street level. Parking would be consolidated on the southern superblock, Hurley said. Meanwhile, the low-rise retail strip along LaGuardia Place — which, Brown noted, doesn’t get good business — will be demolished, and, as referred to above, retail uses will be consolidated in the “zipper building” on the southern superblock.

    N.Y.U. would build down to add space in the Washington Square Village courtyard, putting three or four stories belowground, for classrooms or possibly theaters, Hurley said. Aboveground, the complex’s courtyard would offer clear sightlines through from LaGuardia Place to Mercer St., and would be open to the public as a sort of “Rockefeller Center without ice skating,” Brown said.

    Brown acknowledged there has been confusion in the past among pedestrians over whether the open areas on N.Y.U.’s superblocks are private or public. With the Washington Square Village plan, the space will be “more pedestrian friendly, more community friendly,” Brown said.

    Beyond its ambitions within its own so-called core area, N.Y.U.’s growth plans also call for adding up to 1 million to 1.5 million square feet of space in what it defines as the larger “neighborhood” — defined by N.Y.U. as being bounded by 18th and Canal Sts. on the north and south, and First Ave., Eighth Ave. and West St. on the east and west.

    As well as the hoped-for space on Governors Island, N.Y.U. also projects adding up to 1 million square feet of space in Downtown Brooklyn as part of its merger with Polytechnic, now known as N.Y.U. Poly, plus adding another 1 million square feet along the First Ave. “Health Corridor,” where N.Y.U. Medical Center is located.

    “Over time, you just don’t have the footprint in the Village” for science facilities, Brown noted.

    The university also plans to buy 730 Broadway, just south of Astor Place; and the Forbes Building, on Fifth Ave. at 12th St.

    Hurley said 730 Broadway, a very large building that goes through the block to Lafayette St., will soon feature an N.Y.U. bookstore and a Think Coffee shop on its ground floor.

    Brown bristled at criticism by some neighbors and Andrew Berman, director of the Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation, who say that N.Y.U. shouldn’t increase its footprint at all in the Village, not even by acquiring and reusing existing buildings.

    “What’s the difference if Steve Forbes is in there or John Sexton or a faculty member?” she said of the Forbes Building. “We’re not putting students there [to live]. It’ll be academic use. Are we a worse steward of that building than a private developer putting condos in it?”

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    NYU's Neighbor-Riling Expansion Plan Fully Revealed

    April 9, 2010, by Joey


    The First Avenue Health Corridor potentially all NYU'd up.






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    Holy Tisch! NYU 2031, the blueprint to the university's six-million-square-foot expansion, is now online. After four years and countless meetings with concerned community members—not to mention the occasional leak—it's all out there for everyone to see. Our advice is to go right to the Interactive Plan section, which tosses NYU's targeted expansion sites and details on each onto a Google Map divided into three districts: The "Core" of the campus (which we previewed earlier today), the greater "Neighborhood" of Canal Street up to 17th Street (be afraid) and the "Remote" possibilities of Governors Island, Downtown Brooklyn and the First Avenue Health Corridor (be very afraid).

    NYU 2031 [NYU]
    NYU Expansion coverage [Curbed]

    http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2010/0...y_revealed.php

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    Does anyone have anymore info on the redevelopment of CUNYs Bellevue complex? Is this going to be a joint CUNY/NYU development with shared facilities?

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    Re NYU - bottom photo must be the Jay Street Brooklyn design - nice. Unfortunately City Tech is still sitting on their hands.

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    I wish that they would raze the entire block above the W 4th St Station on 6th Ave. (between 8th Street and Wash Sq. North) that has the Staples, Hollywood Tans, etc. It's a miserable dump.

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    Are those the final designs? They look like really bad architecture. Really really bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    The biggest news about N.Y.U.’s thinking on Washington Square Village, though, is that demolishing the existing buildings is now off the table. The development’s residents reacted in outrage at the demolition scenario two years ago.
    Just goes to show that in time almost any building worms its way into the public's heart. Combined with Silver Towers, the Village's Corbusian Brutalist structures are the Community's latest darlings. Who woulda thunk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    “No demolition at Washington Square Village,” assured Brown...
    ...though not truthfully, because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    …the new plan is for N.Y.U. to lower the open space in the middle of Washington Square Village to street level...
    ...thereby expunging another one of New York's small remaining stock of Modernist spaces. Isn't it enough that they bowdlerized the Vivian Beaumont's serene and lovely plaza at Lincoln Center with a Zaha Hadidian hyperbolic paraboloid of grass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    N.Y.U. would build down to add space in the Washington Square Village courtyard, putting three or four stories belowground.... Aboveground, the complex’s courtyard would offer clear sightlines through from LaGuardia Place to Mercer St., and would be open to the public as a sort of “Rockefeller Center without ice skating,” ...
    Compared with the fairly hectic activity in Washington Square proper, this often-deserted, elevated park offered a quiet haven from the city.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    Brown acknowledged there has been confusion in the past among pedestrians over whether the open areas on N.Y.U.’s superblocks are private or public. With the Washington Square Village plan, the space will be “more pedestrian friendly, more community friendly,” Brown said.
    Well, there goes the quiet haven. Does all urban space need activity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    Parking would be consolidated on the southern superblock, Hurley said.
    This sounds ominous. Wonder what they have in mind? Surely no surface parking?!
    Last edited by ablarc; April 11th, 2010 at 12:43 PM. Reason: typo

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    Unfortunately architecture is not at the top of their priority list right now as evidence by those renderings.

    Trying to expand and at the same time keeping the community from uprising against their expansion plans are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    Just goes to show that in time almost any building worms its way into the public's heart. Combined with Silver Towers, the Village's Corbusian Brutalist structures are the Community's latest darlings. Who woulda thunk?
    My guess is that they care less about Washington Square Village, which is gaspingly hideous, and more about living the NIMBY dream of thwarting anything new or (perhaps even more cynically) thwarting NYU because it is NYU and therefore must be hated. (Don't get me wrong; I oftentimes, but not always, agree with the knee-jerk suspicion of NYU.)

    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    Well, there goes the quiet haven. Does all urban space need activity? This sounds ominous. Wonder what they have in mind? Surely no surface parking?!
    I would say that this space does indeed need, if not "activity," then certainly something. It might as well be a large surface parking lot as it currently is. And in fact the way it primarily meets / interacts with Houston Street is via the ramps coming up out of the below-grade parking garage. It's a disaster, and I'd be happy to see it densified -- though I agree that it would be nice if the Zaha Hadid nonsense, which will be as ugly and dated in 40 years as Washington Square Village is today, could be left out of that added density.

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    Razing Washington Square Village would require the displacement and relocation of over 1,000 residents / families. Bet it's more about cost effectiveness than any love for the buildings at WSV.

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    A long time ago, I was one of those thousand residents. Coming home felt like leaving the city for the leafy privacy, quiet and security of the suburbs.

    The buildings themselves are enjoyable as colorful Unités d'Habitation. Kips Bay Plaza is another example, but Washington Square Village is much nicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    I wish that they would raze the entire block above the W 4th St Station on 6th Ave. (between 8th Street and Wash Sq. North) that has the Staples, Hollywood Tans, etc. It's a miserable dump.
    Looks too much like a Village, huh?

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    Hardly, the West Village is a magnificent, pre-Civil War area. Those 1960s pieces of junk above the subway stop are crap that detract from the Federalist-era gems that characterize the Village.

    If NYU wants to enhance the Village, they should raze this POS.

    Last edited by londonlawyer; April 11th, 2010 at 06:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    Hardly, the West Village is a magnificent, pre-Civil War area. Those 1960s pieces of junk above the subway stop are crap that detract from the Federalist-era gems that characterize the Village.
    Fully agree.

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    Do they own them? Should the city seize them by eminent domain, and serve them up on a silver platter?

    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    Hardly, the West Village is a magnificent, pre-Civil War area. Those 1960s pieces of junk above the subway stop are crap that detract from the Federalist-era gems that characterize the Village.

    If NYU wants to enhance the Village, they should raze this POS.


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