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    Can the board kill this project?

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    CBs are purely advisory and only able to give input -- while they can advocate for specific postions their votes are not binding on any agency (although they can wield influence).

    The fact that LPC has already OK'd this building is a good sign that it will make it through the next steps at City Planning.

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    That's good news! This building is awesome.

    Aren't the Community Boards the entities that are busting Solow's and Ratner's nads on the Con Ed and Atlantic Yards sites? If they don't have power to block a project, I wonder why Sheldon and Bruce are shortening their towers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    That's good news! This building is awesome.

    Aren't the Community Boards the entities that are busting Solow's and Ratner's nads on the Con Ed and Atlantic Yards sites? If they don't have power to block a project, I wonder why Sheldon and Bruce are shortening their towers.
    Solow has shortened his buildings because the community board has been pressuring City Planning. Solow still needs City Planning to rezone his site to residential and office so he has to appease City Planning to a certain extent.

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    Thanks for the info. I really hope that the Horizon is built as is.

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    I hope this gets built. Does anyone know the significance, if any, of this latest setback?

    Community Board 5 voted 20 to 10 last night to recommend that the City Planning Commission disapprove the granting of a special permit to allow residential development and a waiver of height, setback and rear-yard requirements for a very unusually shaped, 21-story residential tower at 39 West 23rd Street in the Ladies’ Mile Historic District.
    Frank Angelino, a spokesman for the developer, told Cityrealty.com today that the discussion at the full-board meeting was "lively."

    The land-use and zoning committee of Community Board 5 voted last Friday, 6 to 4, to recommend disapproval.

    The development’s design by Carlos Zapata Studio and Gruzen Samton LLP, however, has been approved by the Landmarks Preservation Commission, and is now in the city’s Uniform Land Use Preview Process (ULURP). The commission requested that the design be modified by reducing its height by a few stories and it required the developer to restore and promise to retain the facades of the existing low-rise residential building at 37 West 23rd Street.

    The design calls for a white-glass-clad, narrow tower that not only slants to the north above its-low rise base on 23rd Street, but also cantilevers over its rear yard and also slightly over an adjoining low-rise residential building that is part of its zoning lot to the east at 37 West 23rd Street.

    The “whittled” design is not simple and there are a variety of other facets, and a few notches, to its facades.

    The project would have retail on the ground floor and residential condominium apartments above. According to Mr. Zapata the number of units has not yet been finally determined and would be between about 44 and 76 although as-of-right zoning for the site permits about 110.

    The site runs through to 24th Street where a three-and-a-half-story, single-family townhouse would be erected as part of the development.

    The project’s chamfered design also is somewhat similar in concept to One Bryant Park, the much larger skyscraper being erected now on the northwest corner of 42nd Street and the Avenue of the Americas.

    Mr. Zapata’s and Mr. Samton’s design, however, is shaped in large part by the city’s zoning and building regulations and, as a result, represents an extremely intriguing and formidably sculptural form, especially for New York above the clean-cut lines of its low-rise base.

    According to Mr. Zapata, the design seeks to “maximize air and light” and a taller building that conformed to existing regulations would provide less usable square footage and cast longer shadows.

    The tower of the mid-block building would be quite narrow with only about 3,500 square feet on a floor. It would be a few stories higher than the tall buildings at either end of the block but its slanted design would more views of the Metropolitan Life clocktower building on Madison Avenue as seen from the Avenue of the Americas than a sheer tower, Mr. Zapata said.

    The top of the low-rise base on 23rd Streets projects out about 22 inches to “look like a cornice,” he said.

    The building would replace a 96-car parking lot.

    The project is planned by Horizen Global LLC, of which Michael Yanko is chief executive officer. Horizen Global’s other Manhattan projects include Hudson Blue at 423 West Street.

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    Frank Angelino is a very savvy fellow with lots of good connections ...

    I hope no one higher up listens to CB5 on this -- and that City Planning / the City Council move this project ahead.

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    Any further word on this one?


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    I couldn't find anything at City Planning.

    No action on the NEW BUILDING Application since it was Dis-approved last April.

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    Nice designs like this one gets stymied while horrid McSams go up all over the place unabated.

    This town is looking uglier each day.

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    From what I can decipher it looks like this project is being built afterall (try to look around the stupid hand and you see almost the same design), albeit with slight modification and at a different site.

    Curbed:



    Something big and strange is growing on the corner of The Bowery and 5th Street in the East Village. (No, not the Bowery Hotel; this is just north of that site.) In what appears to be a case of not-gonna-show-ya-nothin' design, the Peckmoss Group is developing a 23-story, 224 foot tall luxury hotel to be called The Cooper Square Hotel. Okay, pretty ordinary name. But there's a lot about this project that is, in many ways, anything but ordinary.

    First, the hotel tower will wrap around an old tenement building that's been on that site since before the days of the Bowery Boys. We linked that story last fall when the developer backed off and made the tenant a deal. Then they ran into some structural problems, but it seems that's been worked out too. Now they're in full construction mode.



    Concrete is growing by the yard around that little brick building. Columns go this way, reaching out toward the big blue Sculpture for Living across Cooper Square. Floor plates arc towards the sky and re-bar is growing like tentacles. The architects are the Studio Carlos Zapata and Perkins Eastman Architects. The Zapata group is known for some very dynamic and mind-blowing work (one could spend a good part of an afternoon playing around the Studio Zapata website). No ordinary square boxes there. One of Studio Zapata's latest projects is a 68-story glass tower complete with a heli-pad that will go up right in the heart of Ho Chi Minh City. Really.

    So, what will Zapata do with this new tower at 25 Cooper Square? Renderings haven't been published and are seemingly impossible to find. And the guys at the Peckmoss Group are aren't giving anything away. But some sleuthy neighbors managed to come across an ethereal looking rendering on a contractor's website. They added some artwork, made copies and started posting those images around the neighborhood. Almost immediately one of the big guys found out and the rendering was pulled from cyberspace but pronto. So here's something of a sneak peak. (Actually it does look like a thumb. A ghost's thumb, all white and smokey and, well, bulbous. The Bowery Boys wouldn't know what to make of it.

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    I wouldn't go as far as to say that this is the same project but at a different site.

    Obviously the architect is the same and the designs might share similar traits but these are two separate projects as far as I'm concern.

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    Clearer rendering of Zapata's Cooper Square Hotel and comparing it to the unbuilt Horizen / 23rd Street Condo building posted HERE

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    From today at CURBED ...

    Viva Zapata on West 23rd

    Wednesday, March 28, 2007, by ROK88



    Seems the prayers of the devoted have been answered. This faceted glass condo proposed for the Ladies' Mile Historic District received a thumbs down from Community Board 5 last fall. But it recently got a thumbs up from both City Planning and the City Council. 21-stories of folding glass planes will rise at 39-41 West 23rd Street. It comes to us via Carlos Zapata Studio, who whipped up the equally heavenly Cooper Square Hotel on the Bowery. No word yet how soon this one will rise. Additional prayers might be advised.


    [The Zapata plan (left, lower right) and the West 23rd St. site today]


    Zapata's 90,670 sf design for Horizen Global will reach a height of 278' above West 23rd Street and 90' at the townhouse section on West 24th Street. As it twists and bends it will cantilever over the 5-story 1880 building at 37 W. 23rd and then arc back towards the north. Although the tower incremently violates various zoning regs the CPC ruled for approval, deciding that:
    ... the proposed building is unique in design that gently arcs back from West 23rd Street, giving it a sense of lightness and airiness ...
    A bit of a slapdown to the folks at CB5, who declared that:
    ... the proposed new building significantly destroys the continuity of the elegant decorative historic street wall ... despoils the special aesthetic character of the Ladies' Mile Historic District streetscape ... will cast deep new shadows across the neighborhood ... is incongruous to the neighborhood ...
    Carlos Zapata doesn't give us boxes like we see rising all over town. He plays with form and shape, twisting and pushing glass and steel. The results can get some people crazy. Zapata, together with his former partner Ben Wood, busted some nuts with their futuristic re-do of Soldier Field in Chicago. Wood + Zapata also designed an ethereal looking faceted glass tower for their submission to New York Magazine's theoretical proposals for the WTC site. One of Zapata's futuristic glass towers is currently rising in Ho Chi Minh City. And now NYC is getting not one but two of Zapata's bendy edifices. Viva Carlos.


    [37 W. 23rd (left) will be restored; the parking lot (right) where the tower will rise]


    [Wood + Zapata's re-do of Soldier Field in Chicago]


    [The Wood + Zapata 2002 design for the WTC site]

    · By All That is Holy in SoFi [Curbed]
    · The Matter of the Application of 23rd Street Development, LLC [CPC]
    · Cooper Square Hotel Fully Revealed [Curbed]
    · Seven Architects Offer their Visions for Ground Zero [New York Magazine]

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    Fantastic news!

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