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Thread: Proposed: World Trade Center Performing Arts Center - by Frank Gehry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroika View Post
    ^^ True. Even with the Freedom Tower being a travesty, the area could turn out quite nice given those three structures (plus, hopefully, the more-elegant designs by Foster and Rogers).
    Tower 1 a disaster? I wouldn't go that far.

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    I think that Towe 1 is nice.

    While there's a lot of crap built in NY, every city in the world would be having massive orgasms if they were getting Tower 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    While there's a lot of crap built in NY, every city in the world would be having massive orgasms if they were getting Tower 1.
    With the possible exception of Dubai.

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    Other than the Burj Dubai, most projects being built there (and in the Gulf generally) look retarded in my opinion.

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    Especially since so many of those ^ are now stalled and half-built.

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    The initial design isn't wavy titanium which is a big plus.

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    That chunk of real estate would be better used for another tower. I could care less about a "Performing Arts Center." NY has hundreds of other venues, already built, to take care of any such market demand for a PAC. Of course, you could say that about office towers, too, but I think the WTC site should be reserved for mega-towers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo-ny View Post
    The initial design isn't wavy titanium which is a big plus.
    Those stacked boxes is how all Gehry designs start out, he uses it to configure the interior space, later he adds the waves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post

    That chunk of real estate would be better used for another tower. I could care less about a "Performing Arts Center." NY has hundreds of other venues, already built, to take care of any such market demand for a PAC. Of course, you could say that about office towers, too, but I think the WTC site should be reserved for mega-towers.
    This was decided years ago: The choice was for future development that helped to create a 24 hour downtown. Office towers -- of which there will be plenty -- add little to a vibrant neighborhood once workers (1) go inside to work (2) go home from work.

    Besides, NYers do care about venues downtown. There are very few, particularly considering the number of new residents who have made this part of downtown home over the past 10 - 15 years.

    A cultural center is forward thinking and will be an important addition to this part of the city.

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    I agree. Without a substantial arts center, we get another soul-less office park.

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    Ahhhh, at this point what's eight more years ...

    The current PAC timeline is to build Site 1B foundations with the Port Authority’s help next year. Also in 2010, Winters said that a fundraising campaign and institutional development will begin, while final design drawings are completed by 2012. Depending on the schedules for surrounding WTC towers and the seven levels of sub-grade structure, PAC construction could start in 2014, with a potential 36-month building phase.

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    For DQ's elucidation:

    2014 plus 36 months = 2017 (where 36 months = 3 years)

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    Not like they're going to start meeting timelines either. Let's call it 2020. Too bad the world is ending 8 years before that.

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    Since construction isn't even set to start until after that dark day just think of all the money we'll save

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