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    Here we go ...


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    ^ many thanks - it certainly was a good looking building

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    that was so beautiful, and reading the article about it's shameful demise was truly sad. The new buildings around Bryant should be gorgeous, not that mediocre bore they're planning to erect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Landmarks has no control over this site.

    On the south side of that block of W. 40 (between Fifth / Sixth) there are onlytwo Landmarked buildings:

    452 Fifth [aka 4 W 40th] -- HSBC Building

    38 - 40 W 40th -- Radiator Building
    Yes, it does need landmarks approval; it has already been presented to them twice.

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    OK ... DOB does not list that address as a "Landmarked" lot (as it does for the two others on that block).

    Does anyone know the reason that LPC might have control over "The View" site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahzee View Post
    The Landmarks Preservation Commission hadn't acted quickly enough, and preservationists were furious that the building hadn't formally been listed. "We have a small staff of 50 persons, and we're not able to move quickly to protect all buildings identified as significant," Lenore Norman, the commission's executive director, told The Times.
    I see not much has changed with the LPC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    OK ... DOB does not list that address as a "Landmarked" lot (as it does for the two others on that block).

    Does anyone know the reason that LPC might have control over "The View" site?

    This is a shot in the dark - but do you think it has anything to do with the landmarked Bryant Park / The Library? (In other words, shadows cast by the new building on a protected area gives landmarks the ability to review & comment on a new building, but not approval rights?)

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    Don't think so.

    That angle was tried years ago with the Safdie / Columbus Circle project in regards to shadows hitting Central Park. The theatrics got lots of press but it was the economy that killed that project, not LPC.

    And if that shadow ruse worked then folks would have used it at Madison Square Park to stop the new One Madison tower rising there now.

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    Perhaps this passage from an earlier cityrealty.com article will provide the answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post

    The proposal requires some building waivers and seeks to use a restoration plan for the former Knox Hat Building that had been approved in 1994 when the Republic National Bank intended to develop this long-vacant site, which extends through to 39th Street.

    The bank had developed the large office tower directly south of the Knox Hat Building in 1981 and at that time received a building bonus for agreeing to maintain the Knox Hat Building, which was incorporated into its new building program at the site, in good condition.

    The bank, which is now part of HSBC, decided not to proceed with the new building and therefore did not start the restoration program.

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    That ^ looks to be the LPC connection.

    Thanks ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahzee View Post
    On the frigid evening of Feb. 15, 1985, a crew of workers took jackhammers to the facade, stripping balustrades and stone carvings around the windows and chipping into the four pairs of Doric columns. A spokeswoman for Freedom House said the work was needed to comply with Local Law 10, but the City Building Commissioner, Charles M. Smith Jr., said the work on the facade "had gone beyond safety-compliance procedures," as The Times paraphrased. But they had a permit for daytime work, so there was nothing the commissioner could do aside from temporarily halting nighttime work. The Landmarks Preservation Commission hadn't acted quickly enough, and preservationists were furious that the building hadn't formally been listed. "We have a small staff of 50 persons, and we're not able to move quickly to protect all buildings identified as significant," Lenore Norman, the commission's executive director, told The Times.http://www.startsandfits.com/hardenbergh/willkie.html
    Owner demolished a beautiful historic building because the LMC did not have time to get to it. Meanwhile, nothing was ever built there anyways for over 20 years....what a sickening story.

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    Good to see that the building aims to be very green. Finally, a fad that's actually good for the people and the planet. With 4TS and BofA right across the street, Bryant Park will become the centerpiece of green development in the city, at least for now. Any green stats on the reclad Verizon (besides the color)?

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    Default Bryant Park In Danger Of Going Dark!

    Has anyone been following the 1 Hotel One & Residences proposed for 20 W 40 St. across from the Main Library and Bryant Park?

    While claiming to be a “completely green” hotel and marketing the fact that the new tower will be “certified LEED Silver” the truth is that this REALLY big building (32 stories!!) will be wedged into a lot next to Bryant Park. The building would be on the east end of the block, across from the library but the shadows will stretch as far as the fountain in the park near 6th Ave. That is a shadow that stretches nearly a whole long block.

    In order for this behemoth to be built, the developer will need a special permit because the daylight evaluation is well below the allowed zoning regulations.

    What’s worse -- this “green” hotel did not even conduct a full environmental impact study to determine exactly how this new structure will impact the park and surrounding community.

    This project is currently being reviewed by the Planning Commission. If you enjoy Bryant Park and don’t want to see the park “go dark”, please click on the link to the planning commission comment page below and let them know how you feel.
    http://nyc.gov/html/mail/html/maildcp.html

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    ^lol. It would be the third tallest building on the block. Give me a break.

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    Unbelievable. Nothing shocks me any more.

    Remind me, are we talking about Midtown?

    Wouldn't the trees create more shadows?

    How about the much taller and more massive buildings on all sides? Wouldn't they create even more shadows?

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