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    Default 211 Elizabeth Street - Condo - NoLiTa - by Roman & Williams

    From Reel to Real, for Hollywood Design Team



    A rendering of 16 Prince Street, which will have retail space
    and 15 condos.


    By DAVID SCHARFENBERG
    Published: December 10, 2006

    ON the corner of Prince and Elizabeth Streets in NoLita, a former Broadway producer and two former Hollywood production designers, skilled in ephemera, are taking a stab at permanence.

    Peter Manning, producer of the Tony Award-winning “Sideman,” and two other developers plan to break ground next month on a seven-story brick building with a cornice and all the trappings of yesteryear.

    The pair responsible for the design of the structure, which is to have 15 condos atop retail space, are Robin Standefer and Stephen Alesch, the husband-and-wife team who devised the sets for “Addicted to Love,” “Zoolander” and other Tinseltown fare.

    Ms. Standefer and Mr. Alesch, whose firm, Roman & Williams, started in Manhattan two years ago, said they had grown tired of the temporary. “We finally felt that the fact that it lived forever in celluloid was not enough for us,” Ms. Standefer said.

    “We really love things that have a certain weight and are really rooted and heavy,” she added, “and film ultimately was too tenuous and light.”

    For all their talk of history and heft, the couple’s design for the building has its share of light, contemporary touches — porcelain-coated surfaces in the kitchens, and the wide windows common in SoHo lofts.

    But their traditionalist plans for the exterior serve as a strong counterpoint to the curving glass and aluminum condo towers sprouting up on NoLita’s borders. Bullnose and coved brick surround windows. Muntins separate windowpanes. Pilasters abound.

    The developers, in truth, did not have much room for shiny flourishes. They are building in Little Italy, where codes demand facades “predominantly of masonry.”

    Still, Mr. Manning seemed pleased to construct something that would last longer than, say, a Broadway show. “We’re trying to create something that’s really going to stand the test of time,” he said, “and not fall out of fashion.”

    Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

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    Groundbreaking next month for 16 Prince Street


    11-DEC-06

    Ground will be broken next month for the 7-story residential condominium building planned for 16 Prince Street on the southwest corner of Elizabeth Street in NoLiTa and is being designed by Roman & Williams.

    The developer is 16 Prince Street LLC, of which Robert A. Siegel is president and Peter Manning is vice president.

    The building will contain 15 apartments and will have an fireplaces, an entrance marquee, an exposed rooftop watertank, and multipaned windows.

    Its brown-brick masonry façade is attractively proportioned with a strong fenestration pattern, pilasters and a cornice.

    Mr. Manning is producer of “Sideman,” which won a Tony Award. Robin Standefer and Stephen Alesch are the principals of Robin & Williams, which was founded in 1999 and is doing interior designs at the new condominium building at 40 Mercer Street being developed by André Balazs, and has worked on sets for such movies as “Addicted to Love” and “Zoolander.”

    The site was formerly occupied by the De La Rosa Bakery and it is up the street from a delightful mid-block sculture garden on Elizabeth Street.

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    If the detailing and workmanship are up to snuff, this is a viable approach.

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    That BTW, is the most stylish rendering. Hand drawn water color. Love the murky, city sky. Not a cumulus to be found.

    Boy, do they have taste: tan masonry, green window surrounds, red base. Notice the change in masonry color at the 3rdfloor. Im impressed.

    Its Williamsburging... but we cant complain.

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    Quite a few posts on 16 Prince in the "Manhattan Residential Developments" thread, starting HERE (below from 7.19.06 -- a few posts on the background of the site follow that one) and continuing HERE and HERE (news and pics regarding a fire on this site from 8.22.06). Finally this POST, copied at the bottom, with pics of the La Rosa Bread Company building next door ...

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    16 PRINCE STREET

    aka 16-18 Prince St. / 217 Elizabeth St.

    There is a sidewalk shed up on this site...

    DOB issued a DEMO permit for this site today, 7.19.06

    There is currently an old 5-story brick building on this site -- formerly a bakery (great smells from here many years ago). A completely simple and utilitarian structure. The oldest info at DOB is from March 2, 1886 for a NEW BUILDING

    Not sure what makes this particular corner "Nolita's most prominent corner" -- I'd argue that one block down, catty-corner from Old St. Pat's Cathedral should get that title ...

    "Brand new luxury condominium on NoLita's most prominent corner"

    All I gotta say is that this had better be top-notch and beautiful --


    Architect???? "George Rycar Architects PC" is listed on a prior DOB application (Disapproved on 2.01.2005) to "Change Tax Lot Numbers / No work"

    http://www.rkf.com/listings/NEW/16Prince_main.asp

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    One of the great things about the location for 16 Prince Street is that on that same block (mid-block on Elizabeth between Prince <> Spring) is a through-block open space (Elizabeth <> Mott) -- the home of the Elizabeth Street Gallery Sculpture Garden at 209 Elizabeth Street (partially seen at the far right in the photo above):



    yelp.com / Sarah B.

    Some pics at flickr

    The Gallery is housed in the remaining La Rosa Bread Co. building, just to the south of where 16 Prince will go up:



    How 209 Elizabeth looked it was renovated:



    http://www.bluejake.com/archives/200...ad_co_2004.php

    NOTE: http://www.bluejake.com/archives.php is a great site for excellent photos of NYC (and other places)

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    So 209 is not the one coming down right?

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    No -- 209 has been restored and is now a Gallery linked to the sculpture garden (hmmm -- a picture is in order) ...

    211-217 Elizabeth (where a fire has recently gutted what was there before) is where the new building will go up.

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    Oh, up above where I mentioned, "Williamsburging" it....I meant Williamsburg as in Virginia.

    imagine a whole neighborhood of "faithful reproductions" ....New York recreated like Celebration... weird or wonderful?

    This ones going to be interesting to see if they pull it off. Seems the rendering shows it even more faithful to the past than 15CPW or those other reproductions downtown.

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    Looks amazing! Yipee! Everything's great, I especially love the base.

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    It looks as if the designers of 217 might be going with cast iron for the facade at the street level (such as is seen at 209 Elizabeth) and with brick on the floors above.

    Nice.

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    Could it be we need more set designers working as architects?

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    Forget set designers.

    Mentally retarded pre-schoolers can do a better job than a couple of our local architects and you know which ones I'm talking about.

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    First time I looked at the rendering, I thought: "Wow, that looks authentic."

    Maybe it'll be the start of a new trend. Tastes have a tendency to be cyclical (sometimes).

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    Some pics from this cloudy gray morning (not so good for my cell cam) in the vicinity of 16 Prince ...

    From Prince Street:



    From the south looking up towards 16 Prince / 217 Elizabeth, with the Elizabeth Street Gallery Sculpture Garden and 209 Elizabeth in the foreground:





    The Elizabeth Street Gallery at 209 Elizabeth:

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    Is there a reason they left the graffiti on there even after doing the restoration?

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