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Thread: 99 Church Street (30 Park Place) - 82 stories, 926 ft - by Robert A.M. Stern

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    i dig it, and am looking forward to watching it rise behind mr woolworth over the next few years from my bk vantage point.

    the views from the highest floors down onto wooly are going to be S. I. C. K.

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    It's very nice I think. And I'm guessing it won't be built with pre-cast concrete.

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    I wish there was a better view with the WW right in front of it to see how they play off each other. And the crown could sure use some more pizzaz.

    It is great to see that limestone will be used for this design. It is however a lil too slender & straight, could use an extra setback or two IMO. The contextualism theme is a bit intruiging as it serves as a dichotomy between the old world buildings and modernist buildings. It is contextual with the Woolworth in terms of materials but not at all in massing; the massing rather commemorates the boxyness of modernist layouts found all over DT. Not my preference but interesting.





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    Umm woolworth isn't a box? (or stacked boxes).

    First, I'm shocked and thrilled with 80 stories and 921'. If it was going to be taller than Woolworth, I wanted to see it at least 900 feet. It's a nice design, but it just seems like a rip-off of 15 CPW to me. It will look great in the skyline, I just feel Stern could have added some more originality to it.

    On the other hand, It's a rendering from one angle. I'd like to see renderings from Brooklyn and Jersey, I bet they will be out soon.

    All in all a very nice building, and I'll look forward to it rising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfenn1117 View Post
    Umm woolworth isn't a box? (or stacked boxes).

    No, it has a setback massing, which is much different than being a box which to me generally means that all the walls go straight up.

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    well, i need to start figuring out how i'm going to afford that full floor penthouse by the time sales start in 2010ish. i'm thinking something along the lines of the office space money siphoning scheme. or maybe knock off a bank. decisions, decisions.

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    I'm in Providence and am trying to picture the rendering but am confused some. Is the smaller box on the right, Building 7? So the slanted roof to its left is a coming WT tower? But where is the building they just built in back of and just to the West of Woolworth (on Warren? or Murray?), which seemed pretty tall and doesn't seem there at all -- given people are discussing related building heights. I know this sounds dumb, but I can't picture from the photo.

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    The tall building touching the new building on the left in the photo is recent (on Barclay St.)

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    Tip of Woolworth is 792' which is the obvious reference.

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    Fits right in with Downtown's other spindly limestone scrapers.
    Stern has been good to this city.

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    Sort of reminds me of a taller 20 Exchange, though a tad boxier.

    Don't forget there will be another tower the rendering doesn't show, Herzog's New York Law School tower, just up the street and could be nearly 800' tall.

    What that rendering does show however is how mundane Goldman Sachs is.

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    kind of worried that woolworth wont look quite the same from this angle once 99 church surpasses it in height...

    it could be worse i guess.
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    The important angle is from on the bridge though, so it will be a little offset I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcman210 View Post
    kind of worried that woolworth wont look quite the same from this angle once 99 church surpasses it in height...

    it could be worse i guess.



    I'd be more worried about the beekman street tower's effect from this angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrylStrawberry View Post
    I'd be more worried about the beekman street tower's effect from this angle.
    exactly. i've been trying to project this 100 times over. i wish they'd just put this darn thing up already so there is no more mystery as to whether or not i'm losing my wooly view.

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