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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post

    Salt Shed Stirs Strife in Soho

    Edgy design for proposed salt shed meets resistance from residents



    A proposed concrete shed would contain 5,000 tons of salt. Courtesy Dattner Architects

    ... an icon-striving design for a salt shed, effectively clearing the way for its crystalline form to emerge just north of Canal Street in Soho.
    Designed by Richard Dattner, the multifaceted concrete form ...
    Inspiration?

    The The Interfaith Peace Chapel at the Cathedral of Hope, Dallas Texas, by Philip Johnson (1996):




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    It looks like the real inspiration was a bunch of upside-down paper bags clustered together.


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    That would make sense -- if it were a recycling center.

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    The mystery of Block 675 revealed...Joe Rose gets $96 MM from the PANY/NJ...for an easement that will never be used?http://www.northjersey.com/news/0131...tml?c=y&page=1

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    Wonder if Mr. Rose will step up and negate this deal ... since he's such a vociferous critic of PANYNJ waste and corruption and all ...


    A week before Governor Christie froze construction on the ARC Tunnel, the Port Authority paid $95.5 million to rent a Manhattan waterfront parcel officials said was critical to the commuter-rail project.

    The 2-acre tract — a mostly vacant lot on 12th Avenue at 30th Street — is owned by an investment group headlined by Joseph B. Rose, a onetime top official in the administration of former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

    The payment on the 10-year rental agreement was made as a lump-sum advance; officials said paying the whole amount up front was a cost-saver ...

    Rose, a Democrat who served an eight-year term as chairman of the New York City Planning Commission and director of Department of City Planning, was an outspoken critic of the Port Authority while working for Giuliani. Calling for an end to the bi-state agency, he argued that the authority was mismanaged and funneled too many resources to New Jersey.

    As New York’s chief planner, Rose played a leading role in initiatives such as the redevelopment of lower Manhattan, rezoning of the Theater District and the creation of a 2.1-million-square-foot mixed-use development at Columbus Circle. He also pushed new plans for development on Manhattan's western edge, including extension of the No. 7 subway line.

    Extending the No. 7 to New Jersey has been floated as an alternative to ARC.

    Rose, who early in his career served as special assistant for urban affairs to U.S. Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, has long been active in Democratic circles. Campaign records show he made $12,500 in contributions to federal candidates and committees in the past two years ...

    So what will become of the $95.5 million lot now?

    The Port Authority said it has already been approached by several developers, including a film studio, but is not ready to discuss details.

    Because its deal is a rental agreement, the Port Authority only has rights to the site for a limited period. It does retain, however, the permanent right to drill a tunnel deep beneath the property.

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    It's a “New land purchase record ($22,175 psf) set for the Island of Manhattan.” Might be a good place to keep the MN5 DSNY garage in Midtown and realize the 2-district Hudson Rise Plan? On September 7, 2010 the Port Authority (“PANY/NJ”) paid the Real Estate firm run by Hudson River Park Trust Board Member Joseph Rose, $96,646,182 for the right to build a tunnel to connect the Trans-Hudson Express (“THE“) tunnel project in the form of both a ten year temporary (10,940 sf) as well as a permanent (5,276 sf) easement for a parcel of land (620 West 30th Street) once slated for a Department of Sanitation (“DSNY”) garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by projectsnyc View Post
    The mystery of Block 675 revealed...Joe Rose gets $96 MM from the PANY/NJ...for an easement that will never be used?

    http://www.northjersey.com/news/0131...tml?c=y&page=1
    From that linked article regarding the Joe Rose property:

    " ... The 2-acre tract — a mostly vacant lot on 12th Avenue at 30th Street — is owned by an investment group headlined by Joseph B. Rose, a onetime top official in the administration of former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani ... the deal for what it called the “Georgetown site” was signed Sept. 3 ... "

    From the June 2010 ARC "POST-RECORD OF DECISION (ROD) TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM -- RESTRICTIVE DECLARATIONS [pdf]:

    2 POTENTIALLY AFFECTED LOCATIONS (Page 5)

    2.1 Existing and Future Development Conditions


    B. AREA II – GEORGETOWN AND VALERAY

    Area II of the Project Protection Zone is located in the eastern portion of Block 675, located between West 29th and 30h Streets and Eleventh and Twelfth Avenues (Figure 3). The western portion of this block (Lot 1) is occupied by a building occupied by Verizon, as well as an area used by Verizon for parking vehicles, and a vehicle storage facility; the lot is enclosed by chain-link fencing on its Twelfth Avenue, West 29th Street, and West 30th Street frontages. This western portion of the block is zoned M1-6, permitting commercial and light manufacturing uses to a maximum 10.0 FAR. Residential uses are not permitted in M1-6 districts. An application for a new building permit has been filed by the Georgetown Company for a 50-story hotel on Lot 1.


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    DOB shows a New Building Application from SOM for a 66 story / 828' hotel on that site, Filed 02.01.2008 but so far it's listed as Disapproved.

    Owner: JOSEPH ROSE
    Business Name: GEORGETOWN 30TH STREET LLC

    The APPLICATION states 1,047,503 gross sf

    Block 675 / Lot 1

    260 - 270 12 AVENUE (197' frontage)
    637 - 649 WEST 29 STREET (259' frontage)
    620 - 662 WEST 30 STREET (525' frontage)

    CURBED had a report back in February 2008:

    From Trash to Tower on the Outskirts of Hudson Yards

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    MOTION FILED IN NYS SUPREME COURT TO BLOCK SPRING STREET SANITATION “OVERSIZED” GARAGE CONSTRUCTION
    http://newyork.realestaterama.com/20...n-ID01350.html

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    Judge dumps on plans for sanit garage

    Slaps temporary restraining order on construction of city facility on Spring Street; in long-running fight, neighbors press for a smaller garage with less trash, trucks and traffic.

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    By Marine Cole
    March 01, 2011

    A state judge on Tuesday granted a temporary restraining order on the construction of a city sanitation garage on Spring Street. Some community members are hoping the city will now downsize the project.

    The order was granted by New York State Supreme Court Judge Jeffrey Oing, who also asked all parties to attend a preliminary hearing on the matter on March 11. The order was prompted by a suit brought by the St. John Center against the Department of Sanitation over a disputed property line of the site, which is located at 353 Spring St. The St. John Center, at 340 West St., is a neighbor of the site of the planned sanitation garage, which the Department of Sanitation is leasing from United Parcel Service.

    St. John Center has pointed out there's a discrepancy about the property line,” said Michael Kramer, who represents the plaintiff. He says construction cannot be permitted until there's an agreement about the common border and the permitted size of the garage.

    St. John Center, along with some of the local community boards, have been opposing the sanitation garage because they consider it oversized. “Since 2007, we've been fighting this garage,” Mr. Kramer said. “Not the location, but the idea that it should house three sanitation districts instead of two.”

    He said that the sanitation garage, which will be used to store and wash garbage trucks, house employees' facilities and temporarily store trash, shouldn't house the midtown district equipment. That district runs from 14th to 59th Streets and from Lexington to Eighth avenues. “Why should we have trucks that service midtown?” he asked. Instead, it should be limited to District 1 on Canal Street and District 2 on the lower west side of SoHo and the West Village, he said.

    The Department of Sanitation's plans call for a 427,000-square-foot, 120-foot-tall facility. The St. John Center and the local community boards have come up with their own design called Hudson Rise Plan, which is 285,000 square feet and 75 feet tall.

    “We're hoping the restraining order will give the mayor a chance to change its plans,” Mr. Kramer said. “We're hoping it will force the city to design a smaller building.”

    City officials were not immediately available for comment.

    ©2011 Crain Communications Inc.

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    Sanitation pounds down rumor about its Spring St. megagarage

    August 17, 2011

    BY LINCOLN ANDERSON

    Judging by outward appearances — and recent blissful silence after weeks of thunderous pile driving — the work on the three-district Department of Sanitation megagarage at Spring St. by the West Side Highway seems to have ceased, at least temporarily.

    One rumor circulating in Hudson Square, according to Rip Hayman, the owner of the Ear Inn building, is that the construction actually had “undermined” the highway, causing an emergency work stoppage.

    However, Matthew Lipani, a D.O.S. spokesperson, said that rumor was completely unfounded.

    “The construction does not ‘undermine’ the West Side Highway, and there is no ‘stop-work’ order at the site,” Lipani said. “All buildings in this area are built on piles to transfer heavy loads to adequately supportive soil or bedrock. The piles at the project site have at this time only been driven halfway because we are awaiting the results of certain normal pile load tests. While there are no unusual issues anticipated with the pile load results, there may be a short hiatus of a couple of weeks in resuming pile driving while the results are obtained and evaluated. This is not unusual.”

    A supervisor at the site this week confirmed Lipani’s remarks. The supervisor, who asked that his name not be printed, said 800 piles, each 100 feet long, will be driven for the project. So far, 87 piles have been driven. Most of these, however, have only been sunk halfway into the ground, but 12 have been pounded in their full length.

    The tests are being done specifically on three of these 12 piles. Hydraulic jacks are being used to gauge the piles’ load-bearing ability. The results will determine whether 800 piles are enough or if more are needed. The findings are expected pretty soon, he said.

    Hayman, for one, said since the site sits on landfill from when Manhattan’s original shoreline was expanded, it’s really most suited for low buildings, not a 120-foot-tall garage, the equivalent of a 12-story building.

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    Makes perfect sense.

    Sometimes the sky is falling, other times it is just rain.

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    And sometimes it's an EARTHQUAKE!!!

    Crazy roller this afternoon, felt like jello wobbling and all the plants in my place were swaying.

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    Of all the things in construction, piles are probably the safest when it comes to an earthquake.

    Not necessarily the stuff on top of them, mind you.....

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    Former City Planning Commissioner Joe Rose & his Georgetown properties finds yet another way to make this site pay from the public coffers ...

    Chelsea Lot to Become Bomb-Screening Site for WTC-Bound Trucks

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    August 31, 2011

    CHELSEA — As the city gears up for the 10th anniversary of 9/11 next week, a block in West Chelsea will be used to make sure another attack won't happen at the new World Trade Center site.

    The Port Authority will use the block between West 29th and 30th Streets, from 11th to 12th avenues, to screen trucks going to the World Trade Center site for bombs, Community Board 4 confirmed. The site is located around the corner from the north end of the High Line Park.

    Officials said the site is convenient to the West Side Highway and large enough to perform bomb-checking operations. Most trucks coming in will be inspected and sniffed by a canine unit before being routed back to the highway.

    All trucks headed to the World Trade Center will be screened at the site, with most coming from the George Washington Bridge, the Port Authority said.

    It's unclear what measures would be in place to keep the vehicles secure as they travel between the checkpoint and the World Trade Center.

    The authority is leasing the land from Georgetown Properties. It was originally meant to be part of the now-defunct ARC Trans-Hudson Rail Tunnel Project.

    The new inspection site will operate from approximately 6 a.m. to 6 p.m., and officials expect at most 50 trucks a day to pass through.

    The site will be used through next year, and possibly longer.


    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    DOB shows a New Building Application from SOM for a 66 story / 828' hotel on that site, Filed 02.01.2008 but so far it's listed as Disapproved.

    Owner: JOSEPH ROSE
    Business Name: GEORGETOWN 30TH STREET LLC

    CURBED had a report back in February 2008:

    From Trash to Tower on the Outskirts of Hudson Yards

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