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Thread: 510 Madison Avenue @ East 53rd Street - by Moed De Armas & Shannon

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    the Omni is what hinders this site, it cuts off a portion of the back of the lot from being built out

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    The Lot size of this site "14-22 East 53rd St aka 510 Madison"
    Is 158 by 100 =15,800 sf

    The zoning is C5-3 which the FAR (Floor Area Ratio)
    is -15 which would ad up to 237,000 sf
    But that is only for 125 feet into 53rd Street off Madison Avenue
    The rest of the lot past 125 feet is in the Zoning of C5-2.5 which itís FAR is 12

    187,500 sf
    39,600 sf
    So based on the allowed FAR Macklowe can build
    227,100 sf
    But as you know there is other factors that Macklowe will be able to obtain more FAR either
    1.through buying Development-Air Rights,
    2. Making a Plaza and many more ways

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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime View Post
    ^ According to this... http://www.wirednewyork.com/real_estate/505fifth/

    It has 275,000 square feet and is 27 floors. So I imagine this one will be much taller.
    1. 505 Fifth is 28 floors (not 27)
    2. its 300,000 sf

    anyways the Lot size at
    505 Fifth is- 17,851 sf and the
    Macklowe is- 15,800 q. ft.

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    When this project was residential, wasn't it supposed to be about 50 floors? How can a roughly 300,000 s.f. tower be 50 floors?

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    80 South Street was 170,000 square feet and 55 storeys.

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    I didn't realize that. It seems that the conversion of this project to office space will result in a much shorter building. It's odd though because a building this size will be marketed to small, high-end tenants all of whom will want maximal views and won't need large floor plates, unlike tenants which anchor massive new buildings.

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    this will be similar to Harry's 540 Madison just up the block at 55th Street
    but this one 510 its Lot-Size is more then 3,000 sf larger then 540,
    Harry will also use the same Architect -Moed De Armas & Shannon Architects, as reported in the NY-Post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffpark View Post
    this will be similar to Harry's 540 Madison just up the block at 55th Street
    but this one 510 its Lot-Size is more then 3,000 sf larger then 540,
    Harry will also use the same Architect -Moed De Armas & Shannon Architects, as reported in the NY-Post.
    How do you know this info? Did you read it or are you speculating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    How do you know this info? Did you read it or are you speculating?
    A. in regards to the LOT-SIZE go to the web sites and you will see

    B.
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/11152006...lois_weiss.htm

    November 15, 2006 -- THE run-up in commercial office rents is spurring yet another developer to revise its plans from building luxurious hotel and condos to constructing an office tower.

    Macklowe Properties is now rejiggering its long-proposed project at the southwest corner of 53rd Street and Madison Avenue into an office building.
    The turn of events was mentioned by the investment panel at yesterday's Real Estate Board of New York luncheon at the Hilton Hotel, and was cited as an example of the changing market.
    We have also learned that Moed De Armas & Shannon Architects will be collaborating on the design with Harry Macklowe, just as they did at 540 Madison Ave. The new boutique building will house about 350,000 square feet of office space.
    The Macklowes' nearby General Motors building has been an unmitigated success - enjoying some of the highest office rents in the U.S.
    A spokesperson for the Macklowes declined to comment. Also, Boston Properties is buying the southeast corner of 55th Street and Eighth Avenue and scooping up area air rights to construct an office tower on the site where Madison Equities previously was preparing to develop a hotel and condominium.

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    Thanks. I saw your previous reference to the Post but did not recall the article. 540 Madison is pretty crappy. I hope that we get something better than that.

    Has Moed De Armas designed any actual buildings? Their website seems to have nothing but reskins and interiors.
    Last edited by londonlawyer; January 30th, 2007 at 11:07 AM.

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    Moed De Armas & Shannon Architects are entirely forgettable. They designed 101 West End Avenue and Gotham Center in Queens. They're also behind the forgettable renovation of the former Verizon Building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stern View Post
    Moed De Armas & Shannon Architects are entirely forgettable. They designed 101 West End Avenue and Gotham Center in Queens. They're also behind the forgettable renovation of the former Verizon Building.
    they have done most of Macklowe's work from
    340 Madison,
    540 Madison
    GM-Building retail.

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    Thanks for the info. 101 West End is nice but that seems to be the only new building that they actually designed. Everything else is a reskin (incl. 540 Madison).

    This is such a prime spot, and some nice buildings regrettably were razed. I hope that Macklowe does a good job.

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    [quote=londonlawyer;144974]. 540 Madison is pretty crappy. I hope that we get something better than.

    yes but 540 Madison was not a new development it was built in 1970
    and in 1998 they reskind it
    so i think 510 Madison, might be a little better

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    They also designed Gotham Center, a proposed complex of very boring buildings:



    Second picture from the left.

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