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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    Do you doubt from all the examples in this forum, that the commission chair, Tierney, is anything but autonomous. If you accept that, then it's the mayor's office that appoints and controls the agency. If you don't, then we're not going to come to agreement.
    Those examples are not enough to draw a definite conclusion that he is or isn't autonomous. All of those decisions (as regrettably as they may be) may be his own.

    You are assuming that if he was autonomous, then he would have landmarked all of them. Have you considered that maybe Tierney has opinions of his own and they don't all agree with the preservationists?

    During Bloomberg's term, which saw an unprecedented rise in recent decades of new building and alteration permits, Bloomberg did not keep pace by properly staffing and budgeting the agency. The result can be seen in the dramatic rise in site accidents, far outpacing the increased construction rate.
    What does this have to do with him for or against landmarking?

    A distortion is when you take raw numbers and present them without any context. What should have happened is that you shouldn't have done it.
    Quite the contrary. Raw numbers don't pretend to be anything. They don't lie. If you have $10, then you have $10. There's no distorting.

    What you are attempting to do is to distort by adding conditions and qualifications to the raw numbers.

    You're using raw numbers again. The point is, that although landmarking is more in the public consciousness now than in the past, Bloomberg has made it more difficult to get buildings designated.
    Really? How so? Did he changed the criterias? Did he changed the landmark laws?

    You make it sound like the years before Bloomberg came to office as some kind of dark ages. He came to office in 2002. Did the public consciousness of preservation all of a sudden become enlightened in that year? Was 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1996, 1995 and so on that much different?

    Don't assume that I have an ax to grind with Bloomberg.

    I'm generally neutral to his administration. I give him high marks for parks and traffic-pedestrian management. So-so on education. Negative on political skills. Bad on real estate management.
    I didn't assume anything. You did the assuming. I said that he couldn't win in your eyes with respect to landmarking, which was what we are discussing, not all these other aspects of his administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    Really? I found one that was happy about their property getting landmarked (and out of the thousands out there, I'm sure there are many others as well). much for the "expertise" of the LPC from some folks on this forum.
    Hmmm. "PR"

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    In a period where building permits / demolition permits increased exponentially (with the effect of existing buildings being either demolished or greatly altered at a rate unheard of in our lifetimes) for the man in charge to NOT increase the funding / size of the LPC to match that level of growth and thereby limit the capacity of LPC to consider, evaluate, inspect & opine upon buildings that might merit consideration during that period then one could see the mayoral choice to keep the LPC smaller than the task at hand as a way of minimizing the number of buildings which are brought under its control.

    On the other hand, during this same period of growth whole new neighborhoods and districts which previously had no protections were given Landmark status and brought under the auspices of the LPC.

    Give a little, get a little.

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    Underground Railroad Homes in Chelsea Up for Landmarking

    Also: St. Vincent's saga goes on

    by Eliot Brown
    2:33 PM December 15, 2008

    333 West 29th Street.

    The city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission has put a set of 19th-century Chelsea row houses used in the Underground Railroad on track to become landmarks, as the agency is slated to consider the properties at a hearing tomorrow.

    The buildings, which create a new “Lamartine Place” historic district, run from 333 to 359 West 29th Street, between Eighth and Ninth avenues.

    Neighbors in the area have devoted considerable attention to the buildings, particularly as the owner of one of them, 339 West 29th Street, was planning a rooftop addition (landmark status would make such an alteration far more difficult to complete, and any addition would likely have to be contextual).

    The properties were also part of the 1863 Civil War Draft Riots, when New Yokers took to the streets in protest of the draft, burning houses and fighting the police.

    From the commission’s staff summary:
    The row houses standing since the mid-nineteenth century on West 29th Street between 8th and 9th Avenues are remarkable for their association with several well-known abolitionist families, for their connection to the Underground Railroad, and for being among the very few documented surviving structures associated with the Civil War Draft Riots of 1863, a pivotal period in New York City history.

    Also up for landmarking, per the commission's agenda: the La Mama Experimental Theater at 74 East 4th Street; two buildings on West 56th Street; two libraries in the Bronx; and a few other houses in Manhattan.

    Early in the day at the landmarks hearing, the never-ending saga that is the proposed new St. Vincent’s West Village hospital comes before the commission. The hospital is expected to present plans for its new building on the site of the O’Toole building.

    © 2008 Observer Media Group,

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    December 16, 2008, 6:00 PM
    Church and Midtown Building Are Landmarks

    The city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission designated two new landmarks on Tuesday: St. Nicholas of Myra Orthodox Church — a creation of James Renwick Jr., the architect of the Smithsonian Institution Building in Washington and St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York — and the former headquarters of the American Society of Civil Engineers on West 57th Street in Midtown.

    The church, at 288 East 10th Street, near Avenue A, was built in 1882 and 1883 as the Memorial Chapel of St. Mark’s in the Bowery, one of the city’s oldest Episcopal parishes, as the gift of Rutherford Stuyvesant, a descendant of the Dutch governor Peter Stuyvesant, in memory of his wife.

    In 1911, St. Mark’s rented the church, which served members of the area’s large Eastern European immigrant community, to the Holy Trinity Slovak Lutheran Church, which remained there until St. Nicholas of Myra Orthodox Church, a Carpatho-Russian congregation, assumed the lease in 1925. The church is named for the archbishop of Myra (located in what is modern-day Turkey), who is a patron saint of children, sailors, merchants and students. The congregation bought the building from the Episcopal Diocese of New York in 1937.

    The commission said in a statement:

    The brick and terra cotta Renaissance Revival-style church, features intricate trim, Gothic-arched windows and a pair of ornate wooden doors topped by a stained-glass transom. The distinctive copper crosses that now crown the church were added later by the current congregation.

    “This lively, picturesque church has anchored the neighborhood for more than 100 years and served thousands of immigrants as they tried to adapt to their new country,” said the commission’s chairman, Robert B. Tierney.

    The four-story Society House of the American Society of Civil Engineers, at 220 West 57th Street, near Broadway, is a French Renaissance Revival-style structure, completed in 1897, was the work of the architect Cyrus L.W. Eidlitz. It served as the headquarters of the American Society of Civil Engineers, founded in 1852, until 1917, when it moved to another location in Manhattan.

    The society owned the building until 1966. It was leased from 1918 to 1927 as offices and showrooms of the Ajax Rubber Company, a manufacturer of pneumatic tires, and in 1927 to 1928 as a showroom for the Stearns-Knight luxury automobiles. Between 1928 and 1973, it was the location of a Schrafft’s restaurant, a popular chain. In 1975, the ground story was leased by Lee’s Art Shop, an arts supply and furniture and lighting store, which bought the building n 1994 and still occupies it.

    “Eidlitz’s elegant building was regarded as a welcome addition to the streetscape when it was completed and praised for harmonizing with existing ones nearby,” Mr. Tierney said. “It still retains a strong presence on the street and has been adapted for reuse by a wide range of noteworthy businesses.”

    Also on Tuesday, the commission scheduled several structures for hearings that could lead to landmark designation in the future: the Woodstock Branch of the New York Public Library, at 761 East 160th Street, in the Bronx; the Hunts Point Branch of the New York Public Library, at 871-877 Southern Boulevard, also in the Bronx; the Burrill Mansion at 36 East 28th Street, the John Pierce Residence at 11 East 51st Street, the Logan Residence at 17 West 56th Street and the Ferry Residence at 26 West 56th Street, all in Manhattan; the William Ulmer Brewery Complex at 31 Belvedere Street and 26-28 Locust Street, in the Bushwick section of Brooklyn; and the former Aschenbrodel Verein (Cinderella Club) at 74 East Fourth Street in Manhattan, now the home of La Mama Experimental Theatre, an ornately clad structure.

    In addition, the Commission held public hearings on the proposed designations of the Ridgewood Historic District, Jamaica High School and P.S. 66 in Queens, and Grammar School No. 9 on Manhattan’s Upper West Side. It also voted to schedule public hearings for the proposed landmark designations of two public libraries in the Bronx; a former brewery in Brooklyn; four former townhouses in Midtown Manhattan, a former German social club in the East Village and a historic district in Manhattan’s Chelsea section known for its ties to the Underground Railroad. If approved, the Ridgewood Historic District would be the ninth historic designated outside Manhattan since 2003, the highest number of historic districts outside Manhattan designated by any Administration since the Commission’s founding in 1965.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    What does this have to do with him for or against landmarking?
    I never said he was "for" or "against" landmarking. I was countering your observation that more buildings have been landmarked under Bloomberg (still not established by you - it may actually have been Dinkins) as somehow proof that Bloomberg was "for"landmarking.

    Quite the contrary. Raw numbers don't pretend to be anything. They don't lie. If you have $10, then you have $10. There's no distorting.
    I have $10 in 1975. I have $10 in 2008.

    It's the same thing?

    What you are attempting to do is to distort by adding conditions and qualifications to the raw numbers.
    That's what you're supposed to do, and when you do that by adding the qualification of inflation, $10 isn't $10.

    Really? How so? Did he changed the criterias? Did he changed the landmark laws?
    Do you think a law is equally applied in different eras just because it exists? Please.

    You make it sound like the years before Bloomberg came to office as some kind of dark ages. He came to office in 2002. Did the public consciousness of preservation all of a sudden become enlightened in that year? Was 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1996, 1995 and so on that much different?
    That's simplistic. My post was clearly about the entire history of the landmark law. I made no implication that there was a sea change in attitude during any particular administration.

    I didn't assume anything. You did the assuming. I said that he couldn't win in your eyes with respect to landmarking, which was what we are discussing, not all these other aspects of his administration.
    You missed my meaning. Here's your post:

    Furthermore, you suggest that even if it is true that more buildings are landmarked under Bloomberg, it is a distortion. What should then have happened in order for it to not be one? Should less buildings be landmarked? Should all buildings be landmarked, should no buildings be landmarked?

    In your eyes, he can't seem to win.
    Actually, I can't figure out what you mean by "what should have happened in order for it not to be one."

    What I meant was that the raw numbers of buildings landmarked can't be the measure of proof. That also applies in the reverse - less buildings landmarked doesn't prove Bloomberg is a foe to landmarking.

    "In your eyes, he can't seem to win" usually implies a predisposed bias. I replied that it wasn't so.


    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby
    Really? I found one that was happy about their property getting landmarked (and out of the thousands out there, I'm sure there are many others as well).
    So, you're crowing about an INCORRECT STATEMENT?
    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby
    Almost all the landmarked buildings have their owner's consent, otherwise they would not be able to landmark them. Some even ask for designation.
    Looking at it again, the statement isn't even logical.
    Last edited by ZippyTheChimp; December 17th, 2008 at 12:24 PM.

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    03/25/09 at 03:30PM

    Ridgewood Theatre to reopen in July

    Ridgewood Theatre, then (left) and now

    The Ridgewood Theatre, which was the country's oldest continuously operating movie house until its closure a year ago, will reopen in July.

    The Landmarks Preservation Commission held a hearing yesterday on whether to give the exterior of the building, at 55-27 Myrtle Avenue, landmark status, and a vote is planned for sometime this year. In its upcoming incarnation, the building, which was opened in 1916, will have a three-screen cinema on the upper level and retail on the first floor. Mario Saggese, co-owner of the theater, told the commission he would not oppose the landmark designation as long as it applied only to the exterior of the building.

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    March 28, 2009
    Ridgewood Journal

    A Working-Class Neighborhood Seeks Its Place in History


    70th Avenue near Fresh Pond Road in Ridgewood, Queens, is lined with bay-front row houses that may become landmarks. more photos

    Paul Kerzner has lived his whole life in Ridgewood, Queens, on a block of hundred-year-old yellow-brick row houses.

    Michael Perlman had barely been to the neighborhood before he fell in love with its 92-year-old neo-Classical movie theater.

    But the two have become odd allies in a movement to preserve the architecture of Ridgewood, an enclave originally settled by German immigrants that now draws a mix of Polish and Latin American newcomers.

    Many of Ridgewood’s streets are lined with nearly identical rows of bay-front town houses and six-family apartment buildings — most built of warm-yellow bricks and decorated with diamond brick patterns or pressed-metal cornices — that give the neighborhood a sense of place as cohesive as any brownstone block in the Manhattan and Brooklyn areas that more typically attract preservationists’ attention.

    But unlike the brownstones built for New York’s gentry, Ridgewood’s historic buildings were made for laborers — mainly for brewery workers — and the neighborhood, on the Brooklyn border, adjacent to Bushwick, has remained largely working- and middle-class.

    In September, the city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission is expected to approve landmark status for both the theater and for several blocks of ornate six-family brick houses.

    The process can be contentious, particularly if it is seen as a battle between gentrifying outsiders and longtime residents who fear it will restrict the use of their property, as Mr. Kerzner once did.

    But at Landmarks Preservation Commission hearings on Ridgewood — held on Tuesday for the theater and in December for the Ridgewood North district that includes more than 90 houses — outsiders like Mr. Perlman and natives like Mr. Kerzner were on the same page. No one spoke in opposition.

    The idea of preservation is not a new one in Ridgewood; in 1983, nearly 3,000 of its buildings were added to the National Register of Historic Places. Back then, Mr. Kerzner predicted that “the quiche crowd” would soon move to Ridgewood, as it had settled places like Fort Greene, Brooklyn.

    But the federal status gave the buildings little legal protection, and yuppies never arrived en masse. The cause of preservation simmered for decades on the back burner.

    That was part of a larger problem, residents say: Queens has fewer official landmarks than any other borough, partly because its buildings are relatively new — much of it was farmland until well into the 20th century — and partly because its history was long ignored by a Manhattan-centric landmark-designation process.

    Mr. Kerzner, 59, vice president of the Ridgewood Property Owners and Civic Association, has spent his adult life as an advocate for the neighborhood. He led a program to plant thousands of saplings there in the 1980s; the trees now tower over many Ridgewood blocks.

    Mr. Perlman, 26, knows less about Ridgewood than he does about historic theaters, on which he possesses an encyclopedic knowledge.

    His true love was the Trylon cinema in his own neighborhood, Forest Hills, Queens, a few miles distant but a world away in a borough where enclaves can feel like separate towns. He fought and lost a battle to win it landmark status, and its floor mosaic of the Trylon, a statue that was the centerpiece of the 1939 World’s Fair in Queens, was covered over.

    Last March, the Ridgewood Theater — whose carved limestone facade glows in the afternoon light over the discount stores on Myrtle Avenue — was sold, and the screens went dark. Opened in 1916, it had been the oldest continuously operating cinema in the city. Mr. Perlman sprang into action. He rallied theater enthusiasts on a Web site called and convinced the commission to hold a hearing.

    On Tuesday, partisans of the theater and of Ridgewood appeared at the commission’s headquarters across from City Hall and recited the cinema’s virtues: It was built by Thomas W. Lamb, who designed more than 300 theaters, including the original Ziegfeld. Sound was added to the theater by William Fox, whose company became 20th Century Fox. And although its audiences had dwindled, it was once an anchor of the neighborhood.

    Peter Koch, who now lives in Dobbs Ferry, in Westchester County, said he had seen hundreds of films there: The first was “Morgan the Pirate” in 1961, when he was 6.

    Mr. Kerzner and other Ridgewood business leaders told the commission that they would help the new owners, Mario Saggese and Anthony Montalbano, find a way to keep the theater running. Mr. Saggese said they would install new screening rooms on the second floor and have retail businesses on the ground floor, perhaps a discount mall with stalls selling ethnic foods, cellphones and other staples. They hope to build offices in a disused area that once served as the backstage for live theater performances.

    In the hallway, Mr. Perlman and the other movie buffs swarmed around Mr. Saggese and extracted a promise that he would not remove any original interior details, even though the inside will not be designated as a landmark. Then they trooped across the street to eat in a cafe, admiring its Turkish tiles, as well as the squirrels and pelicans carved into the ornate lintel of the office building next door.

    Meanwhile, Mr. Kerzner , who works on a Con Edison program to turn abandoned buildings into moderate-cost housing and also sells real estate in Ridgewood, showed off the houses of Ridgewood as if he had built them himself.

    His own house is a bay front town house sold in 1909 for $5,500. He bought it in 1979 for $35,000 — a price that horrified his parents, who had raised him in an identical one down the block. Others sold at the peak of the market for $650,000.

    The apartment buildings in the area are called Mathews flats, named after the developer, Gustav X. Mathews. They were among the first buildings for workers that included modern plumbing and central air shafts. Their bricks came from the Kreischer kiln on Staten Island. Many of the buildings still have their original carved wooden doors.

    “They’ll be here after we’re gone,” Mr. Kerzner said a day after the hearing, now knowing that was a step closer to being true.

    Ridgewood in 1981

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    Landmark, yes please.

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    Streetscapes | 51st Street Between Fifth and Madison Avenues

    Last Stand of the Millionaire District

    Left, Konrad Fiedler for The New York Times; New York City Municipal Archives
    SUBSTANTIAL HOMES The mansions at 5, 7 and 11 East 51st today and 7, 11, 15 and 17 East Fifth Avenue in 1940.

    Published: April 9, 2009

    THE Landmarks Preservation Commission is now considering the imposing John Peirce house at 11 East 51st Street for landmark status. The severe granite town house is part of a grand design for a block of mansions, of which only fragments remain.

    Konrad Fiedler for The New York Times
    The John Peirce House, which is being considered for landmark status.

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    The Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum.

    The mansions replaced the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum, just north of St. Patrick’s Cathedral, which was built in 1851 and occupied the entire block between Fifth and Madison Avenues, from 51st to 52nd Streets.

    But by the 1890s the millionaire district had flooded in around the cathedral, and in 1899 the asylum property went on the market.

    A syndicate headed by the banker Charles T. Barney, head of the Knickerbocker Trust Company, paid $2,050,000 for the land, excluding the Madison Avenue frontage, and divided it for development. The row of mansion sites facing the cathedral promised a sweeping prospect far superior to the crowded lots along Fifth Avenue, and they soon sold out.

    The asylum was gone by 1901, and the Union Club, the leading men’s social organization in New York, filed plans for a grand new clubhouse at the northeast corner of Fifth and 51st.

    The rest of the lots on East 51st Street were built up in 1903 to 1906, half a dozen houses at Nos. 3, 5, 7, 11, 15 and 17. Of these only 5, 7 and 11 survive.

    Right next to the Union Club, at 3 East 51st Street, the developers John and James Farley had the architect Charles Thain design an ebullient Beaux-Arts house, with alternating quoins running up the sides of the building. They sold it almost immediately to a stockbroker, George A. Mills.

    Next door at 5 East 51st Street, John Melcher, a lawyer, retained the town-house architect Percy Griffin for a much more reserved Federal-style design of red brick. The next house, 7 East 51st Street, is a severe stone building designed in 1905 by Ogden Codman Jr., for E. Rollins Morse, a stockbroker.

    The house now proposed for landmark designation, 11 East 51st Street, is today a bank. It was designed by John Duncan in 1904 for Mr. Peirce, a builder. It shows Mr. Duncan’s endearing ungainly handling of the Classic style — the rustication of the stone rises three stories, whereas the accepted convention is to confine it to the first floor, and the severe, planar fourth and fifth floors seem out of balance with the lower three.

    The austere granite came from quarries Mr. Peirce owned in Maine.

    Mr. Peirce built Grand Central Terminal and the interior of the New York Public Library’s 42nd Street building. In 1909 he advertised in the yearbook of the Brooklyn American Institute of Architects that “we build only monumental buildings.”

    In 1903, Mr. Codman designed 15 East 51st Street — which with its lovely red brick and limestone strips was similar to the houses at the Place des Vosges in Paris, of the early 17th century.

    His client was Leila Griswold Webb, the widow of a railroad executive, H. Walter Webb, and they were soon married. This was a household that lived in style; the 1910 census, taken after her death earlier that year, records Mr. Codman in the house with his two stepsons, along with a butler, chauffeur, first and second footmen, cook, kitchen maid, housemaid and parlormaid. Most were recent immigrants.

    The last house in this group was 17 East 51st Street, designed by Mr. Codman in 1905 for Frank K. Sturgis, a stockbroker and breeder of carriage horses. Built of limestone, with giant fluted pilasters, this impressive residence was similar to a house designed by Robert Adam in the 18th century at 20 James’s Square in London. In the 1930 census, Mr. Sturgis valued his house at $300,000.

    But this superb strip was built just as the era of the big urban mansion was coming to a close, bedeviled by the cost of servants and taxes and, especially near Fifth Avenue in Midtown, increasing crowds and traffic.

    By 1931, No. 3 East 51st was occupied as a club by Delta Kappa Epsilon, and that year Prohibition agents found 60 bottles of liquor there. The jeweler Harry Winston later occupied 7 East 51st Street; in 1960 he moved his $35 million stock to his new store at Fifth and 56th. Brink’s had only $10 million in insurance and so made four separate trips.

    Now the row is rather lonely, hemmed in by the Olympic Tower on Fifth Avenue and the old Look Building on Madison. Nos. 5 and 7 have lost their original ground floors, but Mr. Peirce’s old house, No. 11, is intact, a specimen of a Midtown vision of another time.

    The landmarks commission will decide this summer whether to assure that this impressive work remains intact.


    Copyright 2009 The New York Times Company

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    Those midtown mansions are truly a rare breed on the verge of extinction. After I.M. Pei's Centurion wiped out those few on West 58th, I'm glad to see that the LPC is working to preserve some.

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    Default Two Bronx Libraries Are Made Landmarks

    April 14, 2009, 1:36 pm

    Two Bronx Libraries Are Made Landmarks

    By Sewell Chan

    Landmarks Preservation Commission
    The Woodstock branch library opened on Feb. 17, 1914.

    The Woodstock and Hunts Point branches of the New York Public Library, both in the Bronx and part of 67 city libraries built through the bequest of Andrew Carnegie, were designated as landmarks on Tuesday by a unanimous vote of the Landmarks Preservation Commission.

    The palazzo-style Woodstock branch, at 761 East 160th Street in the Morrisania section, was designed by McKim, Mead & White and opened in 1914. The Italian Renaissance-style Hunts Point Branch, at 877 Southern Boulevard, was designed by Carrère & Hastings and opened in 1929.

    “For the better part of a century, these fine buildings have anchored the communities of Morrisania and Hunts Point,” said the commission chairman, Robert B. Tierney. “They were built in response to the explosive increase in the city’s population and a growing imperative to make knowledge freely accessible to all New Yorkers, a mission that continues to this day.”

    The two architectural firms, renowned now for their stately masterpieces, were among five selected to design the 67 Carnegie libraries. McKim, Mead & White ultimately designed 12 of the branches, while Carrère & Hastings designed 14.

    “The three-story, three-bay Woodstock branch has a classically inspired facade clad in rusticated limestone and features an offset entrance, carved stone ornament, and tall, arched windows on the first floor and a frieze topped by a simple limestone cornice,” the commission said in a news release.

    The structure is nearly identical to the West 40th Street branch, also by McKim, Mead & White. The seventh of nine Carnegie libraries that opened in the Bronx, the branch had 5,500 square feet on each floor and a total of 11,000 books on its shelves.

    Landmarks Preservation Commission
    The Hunts Point branch library opened on July 1, 1929.

    The Hunts Point Branch was the last of the 67 Carnegie libraries to be built and, when it opened, had 14,000 books over the 12,000 square feet on two stories. “The imposing, brick rectangular building, located on a prominent corner lot, is trimmed with richly detailed terra cotta ornament and topped by a boldly corbelled cornice,” the commission said. “Its main facade is composed of an elegant arcade accented by roundels that recall architect Filippo Brunelleschi’s early 15th-century Foundling Hospital in Florence.”

    In other business, the commission voted to consider granting landmark status to 327 Westervelt Avenue, a 19th-century, Shingle-style residence in the New Brighton section of Staten Island, and to expand a proposed historic district in the Ridgewood section of Queens to encompass 212 buildings. The proposed district is bounded by Woodward Avenue to the north, Seneca Avenue to the south, Woodbine Street to the west and Catalpa Avenue to the east.

    The commission is already expected to vote in September on a proposal to give historic district status 90 buildings to the northwest of the 212 structures now proposed for the second phase. Dates for the hearings on the Staten Island residence and second phase of the proposed Ridgewood district have not yet been set.

    Copyright 2009 The New York Times Company

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    Go LPC go! It's not much, but every little bit counts.

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    Landmarks Preservation Commission
    by Brooklyn Eagle (, published online 04-21-2009

    The next public meeting of the NYC Landmarks Preservation Commission (LPC) on Tuesday, May 5, will include the following Brooklyn items:

    • 51 Cambridge Place in the Clinton Hill Historic District, an Italianate-style rowhouse built circa 1856. The application is to construct a rear yard addition. Zoned R-6.

    • 192 Dean St. (aka 131 Bond St.) in the Boerum Hill Historic District, an Italianate-style rowhouse built in 1852-1853. The application is to replace the sidewalk.

    • 792 Carroll St. in the Park Slope Historic District, a neo-Greco- and Queen Anne-style rowhouse designed by John Magilligan and built in 1889. The application is to excavate the rear yard and alter the rear ell. Zoned R6B.

    • 301 Cumberland St. in the Fort Greene Historic District, a Moorish Revival-style apartment house built circa 1920. The application is to legalize painting the door and window enframements, altering the areaway and installing a gate, awning and lighting features all without Landmarks Preservation Commission permits.

    • 321 Ashland Place in the Brooklyn Academy of Music (BAM) Historic District, a Classically inspired institutional building designed by Voorhees, Gmelin & Walker, and built in 1927. The application is to demolish a portion of the existing building and construct an addition. Zoned C6-1.

    • 9 Old Fulton St. in the Fulton Ferry Historic District, a vacant lot. The application is to construct a four-story building with a one-story penthouse. Zoned M2-1.

    • 1298 Bergen St. in the Crown Heights North Historic District, a Renaissance Revival-style rowhouse designed by F .K. Taylor and built c. 1898. The application is to construct a rear yard addition. Zoned R6

    LPC public meetings take place in the conference room, 9th floor, 1 Centre St., Manhattan. For more agenda details, please visit

    © Brooklyn Daily Eagle 2009

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    A map of the full proposed South Village Historic District

    Fearing a rush to demo proposed district buildings

    By Albert Amateau

    The Landmarks Preservation Com-mission and local elected officials are co-sponsoring an information meeting next month to hear the concerns of property owners in a part of the proposed South Village Historic District that the commission is considering.

    But two preservation groups are worried that developers and landlords would be tempted to demolish or alter buildings in the proposed district before they are protected by an official calendaring of a Landmarks Preservation hearing.

    Andrew Berman, executive director of the Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation, and Simeon Bankoff, executive director of the Historic Districts Council, last week urged the L.P.C. to hold its information meeting with property owners at the same time or after calendaring a formal hearing on the district. Once the commission calendars a formal hearing on a proposed landmark designation, demolition or alteration is temporarily barred until the issue is resolved.

    The information meeting will be held at 6 p.m. Tues., May 12, in the basement of Our Lady of Pompei Church, at Carmine and Bleecker Sts.

    Landmarks staff members will explain the process and implications of historic district designation to property owners and neighbors in this part of the proposed district — which includes some of Soho plus the area roughly bounded by Sixth Ave. and Seventh Ave. South between W. Fourth and W. Houston Sts.

    The L.P.C. wants to designate the area as an extension of the Greenwich Village Historic District. But Jonathan Geballe, of the South Village Advisory Committee, protested the new name.

    “The South Village tells a different story from the Village,” he said. “It’s about the immigrant experience, and we think it should be separate.” L.P.C. Chairperson Robert Tierney on Friday justified the pre-calendar information meeting, saying that commission staff members have held similar meetings with property owners in each of the 18 historic districts designated since 2003.

    “It’s important for the commission to build strong productive partnerships with the owners of these historic buildings and to encourage community participation in government actions,” Tierney said. “I believe it’s bad government and worse, bad judgment, to take an action concerning hundreds of buildings without notifying the people who own them.”
    But Bankoff said he feared that delaying the formal calendaring of a historic district risks losing buildings in the district.

    “The Noho Historic District extension wasn’t calendared in 2007, but there was a map of the district extension being circulated,” Bankoff recalled. “It was the first time that I ever saw one building being demolished and another building next to it having a two-story addition — all with the same scaffold over the sidewalk. That was at 43 and 45 Bond St., and by the time the Noho extension was calendared and designated in January 2008, the work was finished and the buildings were cut out of the district.”

    Berman noted that lack of protection can encourage “bad actors to secure demolition or alteration permits, which supersede any subsequent landmarks designation.”

    He noted that the owner of the old P.S. 64 on E. Ninth St. east of Avenue B had secured an alteration permit long before the building was calendared, and then did the work, removing architectural details from the facade, even after the building was designated a landmark. Berman recalled that before the Gansevoort Historic District was calendared, there were also demolitions and significant alterations.

    “It’s our strong desire not to see that repeated in the South Village,” Berman said.

    In the proposed South Village district east of Sixth Ave, buildings have been or are being demolished and altered, including the Provincetown Playhouse and Apartments on MacDougal St. and the building at 178 Bleecker St., Berman said. Other losses in the district include 12 Leroy St., 23 Cornelia St. and the former San Remo Cafe at MacDougal and Bleecker Sts., he added.

    Tierney acknowledged later that the risks do exist. But he said there would be even more risks in the future by not being open with property owners and risking the relationship that the commission and staff would be having with them for a long time.

    The elected officials co-sponsoring the May 12 meeting are City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, Assemblymember Deborah Glick, state Senator Tom Duane, Congressmember Jerrold Nadler and Borough President Scott Stringer, plus Brad Hoylman, chairperson of Community Board 2.

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