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    Spooky on SSC posted a rendering of a nice new tower on this site. Does anyone know about this?
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    The following information about this tower just appeared on Cityrealty.com (Dec. 4, 2006):



    Sleek mixed-use tower planned for 161 Maiden Lane 04-DEC-06

    A sleek, mixed-use tower is planned for 161 Maiden Lane, a site directly south of the proposed residential tower designed by Santiago Calatrava for Sciame Construction Company at 80 South Street.
    The new mixed-use tower, which overlooks the East River a few blocks south of the South Street Seaport, has been designed by Rogers Marvel Architects.

    It is north of the 41-story dark glass office building with an angled base and a space-frame lobby at 180 Maiden Lane that was designed by Der Scutt, then at Swanke Hayden Connell.

    The Calatrava tower, a stack of 10 four-story residential “cubes,” has received wide critical acclaim but its status in uncertain as construction has not started and apparently no units have yet been sold.

    Mr. Calatrava was quoted in a Fortune Magazine article last month as stating that he was “full of hope we will start it,” although an article by Gabby Warshawer in this month’s edition of The Real Deal noted that the marketing firm for the project, I. Kahn Inc., & Company, was “no longer associated with the building’s marketing and sales,” and that the project’s building plans, which were approved January 28, 2005, may need to be resubmitted next month to avoid being considered “dormant.”

    The Calatrava tower and another major tower nearby designed by Frank O. Gehry for Forest City Rattner on Beekman Street near City Hall were widely seen as greatly enhancing Lower Manhattan especially during the long uncertainties and controversies over the redevelopment of Ground Zero.

    Construction has started on the Gehry-designed tower and recently plans for its public plazas have been unveiled. Rob Rogers, a partner in Rogers Marvel, told CityRealty.com today that the 161 Maiden Lane project, which would probably be about 500 feet tall, is still in preliminary design, which should be finalized by early next year.

    His firm’s design won a design competition for the project, which, Mr. Rogers said, will be the first project in New York City for a major developer.

    Renderings of the project on the architectural firm’s website indicate that it would have a light-colored façade with a top ratcheted at the corners by inset balconies.

    Mr. Rogers said that the developer for his project has had discussions with Mr. Calatrava’s developer, adding that the 80 South Street project is “having marketing challenges but is very exciting and great for New York.”

    Rogers Marvel Architects PLLC recently designed the very handsome Theory Corporate Headquarters low-rise office building near the Gansevoort Hotel and Pastis restaurant in the Meatpacking District, the Studio Museum in Harlem, One Seventh Avenue South and 350 West Broadway.

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    The moron, Balazs, should have hired this architect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek2k3 View Post


    This building is actually across Fletcher Street from the 80 South Street site.
    161 Maiden Street will rise here.



    Rogers Marvel Architects
    http://rogersmarvel.com/

    http://www.justinberzon.com/161MaidenLane.htm
    Berzon has it listed at 525 feet.

    This will complement 80 South Street nicely I hope...and I'm not believing 80 South Street is dead until I read that press release.
    Derek2k3 posted this already on the 80 South St - Downtown - Calatrava - Condo thread.

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    More renderings...





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    I am elated to hear that this is on the Zeytuna site. That building is a horrific eyesore!

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    As I posted as a follow-up on the 80 South Street thread: As of yet no DOB filings for this new one at 161 Maiden Lane.

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    i think it will be a Hotel,

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    Should be taller. It forms too much of a plateau effect with 180 Maiden, not to mention the rest of the Downtown skyline.

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    Definitely....or even shorter. It looks like a bookend to #180.

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    taller will unfortunately obstruct American International, sure wouldn't want that

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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime View Post
    Looks ominous.

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    Anyone know what the building they're razing for this looks like?

    I know londonlawyer's opinion, but we can't rely on his opinion (), can we?

    And what about the community board?

    I can't imagine them being able to throw this up in this area without even hearing a whimper from our neighborhood friends?

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    It doesn't do much for the skyline -

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    NOTHING on this project at DOB, City Planning or Community Board 1 websites.

    It appears that we're in the "sell it to the public" PR mode for this one ...

    There is a link to the property site at the new NYC Map Portal (which has a great feature if you click >> "Lot info" -- that link gives basic information for a particular property without having to zip around to various other sites) :

    Borough: MANHATTAN
    Block: 72
    Lot: 2
    Police Precinct: 1
    Address: 161 MAIDEN LANE, NEW YORK, 10038
    Owner: HASA REALTY LLC
    Lot Area: 5330
    Lot Frontage: 115.67
    Lot Depth: 49
    Number of Buildings: 1
    Year Built: 1987
    Number of Floors: 6
    Bldg Gross Area: 35180
    Flr Area Ratio:
    Max Allow Flr Area Ratio: 15
    Residential Units: 0
    Total # of Units: 8
    Land Use: 05
    Zoning: C5-3 Special Dist: LM
    Commercial Overlay: N/A Zoning
    Map #: 12B

    Dept. of City Planning, PLUTO 05D © 2006

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