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Thread: The Museum for African Art - Fifth Avenue @ 110th Street - by Robert A. M. Stern

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    I wonder why, as Antinimby mentioned, the design is so rectilinear, instead of taking advantage of the the curved site.

    Cost?

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    Baskets are curved, right?

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    THey've shifted the mass of the taller portion of the building to the east <> west axis along the southern part of the site (the previous design placed that mass on a north <> south axis at the east side of the site).

    Wonder it this was done to minimize early-day shadows into CP? And to minimize the visual impact of the building from the Harlem Meer area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Wonder it this was done to minimize early-day shadows into CP? And to minimize the visual impact of the building from the Harlem Meer area?
    Tails wagging dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    THey've shifted the mass of the taller portion of the building to the east <> west axis along the southern part of the site (the previous design placed that mass on a north <> south axis at the east side of the site).
    Wonder it this was done to minimize early-day shadows into CP? And to minimize the visual impact of the building from the Harlem Meer area?
    I think a better explanation for this shift is the good ole $.

    The condos will now be closer to Central Park, whereas before they would have to overlook the roof of the museum.

    Obviously this would make the apartments more appealing and thus easier to sell.

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    You'd think a museum on 5th Ave would have access to philanthropy.

    I guess times have changed.

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    It would have been nice if the New School proposed something like this for the site on 5th and 14th.

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    I will never understand this city's love affair with bland, puke yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    You'd think a museum on 5th Ave would have access to philanthropy.
    Could the seeming lack of philanthropy have anything to do with the art being African?

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    Possibly.

    It doesn't quite have the cachet of a Monet, for example.

    That's why a new home on Central Park will only help its cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel View Post
    Could the seeming lack of philanthropy have anything to do with the art being African?
    I doubt it.

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    Zippy, you underestimate the number of people with money who don't care about African-Americans and/or the African culture.

    Hypothetic museums that would have been loaded with "philanthropy":

    - The Museum of Texas Culture
    - The Hollywood Museum
    - The Museum of Hotels and Resorts
    - The Wall Street Museum
    - The Museum of Real Estate, (renamed "Trump Museum", of course).

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    ^
    If there was any validity at all, I think that in New York, the phenomenon would be the reverse...

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    The website for The Museum For African Art oddly doesn't have info on the museum's Board of Directors or donors to the museum.

    It does mention supporters of public programs:
    The Museum graciously acknowledges our many generous supporters.

    Education and public programs that enable us to provide weekend and evening programs and events that make African art and culture an even more meaningful part of our lives are supported by: The Mitsui (USA) Foundation; May and Samuel Rudin Family Foundation.

    Our operations are supported, in part, by public funds provided by the New York State Council on the Arts, the New York City Council, and the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs. We also thank the many corporations, foundations, and individuals that help us to achieve our mission.
    Elsewhere on the website The United Way is shown as a supporter of educational programs.

    Mayor Bloomberg's Press Release on the new 5th Avenue building mentions this:
    ... partnership between the Museum, Sidney Fetner Associates and Brickman Associates. The City-owned parcels of land together with a site already owned by the Museum will allow for the creation of the new museum facility and residential building ... The Sidney Fetner/Brickman joint venture will also contribute $1 million to the City's Department of Housing and Preservation for the promotion of the City's affordable housing initiatives.
    A recent article in Philanthropy Today says this about the new building:
    The building, which will face the northeast corner of Central Park, is estimated to cost $80-million, of which $49-million has been raised.

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    From the Robert A.M. Stern Architects website:



    Poised to become the first museum on New York's Museum Mile, the Museum for African Art is located on Fifth Avenue at 110th Street, at the northeast corner of Central Park. The museum is intended not only as a place for art but also as a gathering place for people, both for the vast African diaspora and for the vibrant cultural community that is New York.

    The museum, designed in close conjunction with the 19-story residential tower that houses it, provides 90,000 square feet on three floors above grade and two below. The building's L-shaped plan cradles a plaza on the circle facing west toward Central Park. The strong character of the museum's trapezoidal windows with bronze-painted aluminum mullions set into stone panels on the museum's north and west facades suggests in an abstract way woven patterns. The museum maintains its own distinct identity within the larger structure, but the rhythm of the museum facade carries upward to the residences above.

    Visitors enter through a glass entry vestibule off Fifth Avenue into an 44-foot-high lobby with one wall and the ceiling a single curving expanse of etimoe wood; the lobby leads to the gift shop, ticketing and information, the auditorium, the café, coat rooms, and toilets, as well as an interactive room for orientation and an arts workshop. The grand stair, embraced in a circular perforated-metal drum with diamond-shaped apertures in a spiral pattern, will glow like a lantern. The second floor provides 16,000 square feet of flexible gallery space, typically to be organized as three temporary exhibition galleries and two galleries for the permanent collection that can be experienced individually or in a loop. The public spaces of the museum culminate on the third floor with a gracious event space that includes a roof terrace offering dramatic views west over Central Park. Administrative offices are housed on the third floor, along with the library, the boardroom, the auction room, and catering kitchens. Two levels below grade accommodate conservation, documentation, and collection storage. A 40-foot lockable loading dock bay on the ground floor allows a tractor-trailer to pull in and the doors close behind it, as required for accreditation by the American Association of Museums.

    Content © 2007 Robert A.M. Stern Architects LLP.

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