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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post

    ... walls painted with whole milk.
    Would you have the recipe for this paint?

    And why do I think it works better in Italy than over here?
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    Wasn't there an episode where Lucy tried her hand at it?

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    Pulverized stone is added. My friend's was without pigment and it dries to a parchment color... otherwise pigments are added. Here's a company that makes it... of course buying it already made probably means that it will cost a lot.

    http://www.milkpaint.com/about_facts.html


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    Thanks ^^^ Google had a more than a few tips (not sure I'll be trying this anytime soon -- particularly, as Fabrizio points out, not during the summer months):

    1870 Milk Paint Formula

    By Dwayne Siever
    Copyright © 2002

    What is milk paint?

    Before commercially prepared paint was available, paint was made at home based on formulas handed down from generation to generation. Milk paint was made from old curdled milk or cottage cheese, lime and earth pigment for color.



    1870 Milk Paint Formula
    * 1 Quart skim milk (room temperature)
    * 1 Once of hydrated lime by weight (Available at building centers. Do not use quick lime, as it will react with the water and heat up. Hydrated lime has been soaked in water then dried.)
    * 1 to 2 1/2 pounds of chalk may also be added as a filler.
    Stir in enough skim milk to hydrated lime to make a cream. Add balance of skim milk. Now add sufficient amount of powder pigment to desired color and consistency (Pigment powder must be limeproof). Stir in well for a few minutes before using. For best results continue to stir throughout use.

    Apply milk paint with a cheap natural bristle brush. Allow project to dry sufficiently before applying next coat.

    Extra paint may be kept for several days in the refrigerator, until the milk sours.

    Double or triple the recipe for paint. Allow to dry thoroughly 3-4 hours before use. For extra protection, give paint a coat of oil finish or sealer. Color may change - test in inconspicuous area.

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    MILKING IT - Making Your Own

    The ultimate do-it-yourself finish: milk paint

    Canadian Home Workshop

    There is nothing in this world that quite makes my day like learning a trade secret or technique that allows me to make my own gizmo, tool, or whatever, saving me the expense of "store bought."




    The simplest recipe for milk paint is
    mixing up some powdered skim milk.
    If you're making a lot, use a food processor
    to save time.

    Maybe I'm cheap (I don't really think so or I'd have a lot more in the asset column), but there is something that just delights my soul when I can cut out the middleman.

    Now, I'm the first to admit that some of my experiments have turned out have turned out to be less than successful; soap-making does not bring back fond memories (I can still smell the stink of rendering beef fat and that was 26 years ago). On the other hand, I've had some experiences that I can add to my mental scrap book of happy thoughts.

    One of my major interests in woodworking has always been the history of the craft. We have so many conveniences that we tend to take some things for granted that were just not available to the craftsmen of old. In this country, it wasn't that long ago that the art of making something from the resources on hand was part of everyone's resume.

    Take paint, for instance. Have you ever wondered why the traditional colour of barns in this country is red? There was a time when every farmer knew a recipe for milk paint, and I'll let you guess where the red pigment came from. (Hint: not tomatoes.)

    What happened? Why did milk paint fall out of favour? Why is it suddenly becoming popular now? Can we make our own?

    The Fall

    Common sense indicates that milk paint had some exploitable weaknesses: it probably had a fairly short shelf life drying out into an unusable mess in a very short length of time. The colour red must have become monotonous after a while. And I think it might have been nice to get some paint when you needed it without having to butcher the hog first. And I would think, if a different pigment was used, it would be difficult to get the exact colour match if you ran out of paint before the project was finished.

    All these problems were eventually addressed when commercial paint companies entered the scene; they were able to incorporate economy of scale and more sophisticated methods and technologies to efficiently produce a more convenient product.

    The Rise

    However, milk paint is a very strong and tough paint that lasts and lasts. It also has its own distinctive soft glow. It was used on a great deal of country furniture, and so has nostalgic value. Modern milk paint can be acquired in powder form, ready to mix with water when its needed. The powder form obviously has a much longer shelf life than the original. For these reasons it has become popular again.

    There are many companies presently making and selling milk paint. For those with Internet access, simply type "milk paint" into a search engine and marvel at the list. For those who don't, one Canadian source is the Homestead House Paint Company of Toronto (877-866-5098). If you decide to buy the milk paint here's a tip: acquire a used food processor for mixing the paint, do not use the one in the kitchen.

    Paint (and stain) is made up of a binder and a pigment. The binder in milk paint comes from mixing the casein protein, found in milk, with one of the following ingredients: ammonia, borax or builder's lime. The casein protein mixed with builder's lime is stronger than the borax mix (molecularly), but requires the use of alkali fast pigments. The borax mix is not as strong but can make use of a far wider range of pigments. Also, the borax mix is the best formula to use if you want to incorporate some oil into the paint. The ammonia has no advantages over the other two so use what is available.

    Depending on the formula used milk paint can be extremely tough. So tough that it can be very hard to remove even with paint remover. Generally, milk paint is more durable than latex paint. It will dry in a couple of hours but may take days, even weeks, to cure, again depending on the formula used.


    Mix the milk into the water until it's
    the consistency of paint,
    then add food colouring

    Recipe #1

    The first recipe uses no lime, borax or ammonia. Mix together powdered skim milk and water to the consistency of paint. Mix in some food dye (there should be a colour chart on the back of the dye package). Strain the mixture through some layers of cheese cloth. Apply with a brush. Just for fun I tried some instant coffee as a dye. It works, but mix the coffee with a little bit of water before adding to the milk. The best thing about this recipe is you can safely use the kitchen food processor to mix it.


    Finally, strain the mixture through cheesecloth

    Recipe #2

    This second recipe uses skim milk, lime, plaster of paris and the coloured chalk from your chalk line. Mix 1.5 cups of skim milk with 1 oz. of lime. Mix well, then add 8 oz. of plaster of paris. Add the coloured chalk while mixing in the plaster of paris. Let the mixture stop foaming before using it. This paint will require re-stirring every five minutes to prevent everything from settling.

    Recipe #3

    This last recipe is for milk paint for exterior use, and makes five gallons of paint. Mix two quarts of builder's lime with four gallons of skim milk. Stir thoroughly. Then stir in one gallon of linseed oil. Then stir in the dye. Strain through a piece of cheese cloth and be sure to use within two days of mixing. You can substitute three quarts of sifted, white, hardwood ashes for the lime.

    Finally...

    It's a good idea to use water-soluble dyes. It also helps if you mix a little water with the dyes before adding them to the mix. Use powdered skim milk in all the recipes to keep the cost down.

    If you mix the milk with lime, make sure you use builder's lime, also known as slaked lime or hydrated lime.

    For cleanup, use soap and water.

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    It's interesting that these recipes all call for skim milk... my friends emphasized that you must use whole milk.

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    I'd think you should use whole, non-pasteurized, non-treated milk -- you want those casein proteins to be strong and intact, noit "skimmed" and watery.

    Just one reson I wrote earlier that it would work better in Italy where they seem to understand thee things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    I'm thinking of redoing my kitchen in milk,
    The cat will love it.

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    This calls for an animated gif.

    Joking...only joking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    This calls for an animated gif.

    Joking...only joking.
    You mean:

    "I kid!!! I kid!!!!"


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    (Note to self: Change blue dish to paint bucket labeled Fortified w/Whole Milk.)



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    ...the formula also includes weed killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    ...the formula also includes weed killer.

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    Talking New Topic: "Adding Milk to Paint"

    "Adding Milk to Paint" **

    Forum: Anthing Goes
    Author: Lofter1

    Have fun!
    Last edited by Punzie; June 26th, 2007 at 01:48 AM. Reason: ** Deleted obsolete link to Anything Goes

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    Default Say good night Gracie.

    Oh dear, you are going to give Ninjahedge a heart attack.

    It's NOT about "adding milk to paint"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Originally Posted by ManhattanKnight

    I went to the Janovic store on 6th Ave. (Spring St.)

    That's where I bought my paint
    Nobody made me a similar offer as you got
    MK, how did you get a less expensive paint offer at Janovic?

    Does anybody else know where to get inexpensive Benjamin Moore paint in Lower Manhattan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    Oh dear, you are going to give Ninjahedge a heart attack.

    It's NOT about "adding milk to paint"
    "Adding Milk to Paint" is a temporary title. Lofter is encouraged to give me a title he likes, and I'll put it in.

    Say good night Gracie.
    I'm honored. (Everybody knew that she had the true brains.)
    To paraphrase George Burns: "I had the best act in the business; then she died."

    Good night, Fabrizio.

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