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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Hmmmm ...

    Who will try to get the last word in on this one

    It was dropped. Why are you trying to make trouble?

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    When someone says "I'm not going to continue going back and forth with you about this" and then does exactly that it hardly seems like it was dropped.

    Not making trouble. Just observing behavior.

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    Talking

    The score is: love - 15. Your serve, Stern.

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    I only care to discuss the building's architecture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finnman69 View Post
    Here's another recent project with the same type of angled, modular glazing. This is an office building in Seoul by Barkow Leibenger. I like much of their other work, but find this to be grotesque. Do we really want to see this on the river? At least Nouvel appeaars to be expressing the window frames instead of butt glazing the joints which is a much superior detail.
    Hm, even though there are clear similarities between the Seoul building and 100 11th, I really like 100 11th and I really don't like the Seoul building. I think it is partly the frames but more importantly the fact that the arrangement of sizes, shapes, and angles on 100 11th looks far more random to me and that's just more appealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stern View Post
    The context of IAC and 100 11th are both decidedly on the waterfront, which is great. If 100 11th was proposed for the site of 40 Mercer and vice-versa I don’t think I would be a very big fan of either, at there current sites I am of both. IAC is influenced by gusts of wind in a ships sails. 100 11th goes deeper and is far more profound, it is inspired by the dazzling qualities of water itself. Like 17 State Street it has the properties of a great body of water, reflection and encompassing qualities, but it goes beyond it with a truly unique facade that I am surprised no architect has ever noticed and proposed for a building in a waterfront context, it is just such a perfect match, as the sun rises or the sun sets it creates spectacular reflections on the water, little bits and pieces of glass reflect on the waterfront and its dazzling, I’m sure anyone who has ever walked on the Jersey shore looking towards Manhattan or on Queens West looking toward Manhattan knows what I’m talking about on certain almost magical nights. The effect which is dazzling and almost surreal, transcends here into a built form, the brilliance which is reflected onto the waterfront is put back in a tangible permanent built fixture. Furthermore I cannot wait to see the reflections 100 11th will cast on the waterfront come sunset, but that said the built form will very likely outshine the beauty of its own reflections, a claim that few if any buildings in New York can claim, and that just goes to further show how great a building this will be.

    I agree with you here and also need to say "bravo!" on a great piece of writing.

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    The materials look truly, truly great, and there was wonderful care put into details like polishing the strip of terrazzo nearest the windows.

    I would have killed one of the baths in the 3.5-bath floorplan in favor of more closets, but that's just me.

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    CHELSEAOn the heels of last night's kick off party at Jean Nouvel's 100 Eleventh Avenue, we have an early report of brisk sales. A special Curbed correspondent writes, "I have shown the building to a customer of mine. The sales office features an incredible 12 foot high and maybe 20 ft long mock up of the windows that will be used...my understanding is that with signed contracts and contracts out, they are practically 50% sold already." [CurbedWire Inbox]

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    Yawn! Sales figures after a kick-off party. Whoopie - a press release gets reprinted by curbed - that site is a mouthpiece for brokers and liars.

    No, REALLY.

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    LOL ^^^

    "tweaking out of control"

    Perhaps it's an homage to the way things used to be late at night along that stretch of the West Side Hiway

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    From http://cityrealty.com/new_developments:

    More details on 100 Eleventh Avenue 05-JUN-07



    New renderings and details of the planned 23-story residential condominium tower designed by Ateliers Jean Nouvel and Beyer Blinder Belle at 100 Eleventh Avenue across 19th Street from the new IAC/Interactive Corporation Building designed by Frank O. Gehry are now available.

    Bathrooms will have touch-sensitive fixtures by Jado that include computerized water flow and temperature sensors. The bathrooms will have Kohler tubs and water closets, and fritted glass and Corian surfaces.

    Apartments will have operable windows oriented to the south and west and along those window walls floors will be finished with an extra layer of "nearly imperceptible transparent gloss, to boost incoming sunlight into rooms." One rendering on the building's website indicated that some rooms facing the Hudson River will have multiple hanging scrims in front of the windows.

    The website also claims that "the building's mirror-canopied pool is designed so that residents may swim comfortably indoors or outdoors, depending upon the weather," adding that "a state-of-the-art glass partition has been customized to enclose the indoor portion of the pool during winter months or inclement weather, so that the indoor portion remains fully operative and warm at all times."

    "By raising the restaurant and other public functions of the ground floor to 4' above grade and sculpting a concrete base, Nouvel has created a perfect balance between pedestrian activity and the lively atmosphere of interiors," the website proclaimed.

    The project claims to "feature the most highly-engineered and technologically advanced curtain wall ever constructed in New York City - a gently curving, glittering mosaic of nearly 1,700 different-sized panes of colorless glass, each set at a unique angle and torque, sheathing one of the most meticulously customized, high performance residential addresses in the nation."

    The developers are West Chelsea Development Partners LLC, a venture of Alf Naman Real Estate Advisors and Cape Advisors, of which Craig D. Wood is a principal. Nouvel is the architect of 40 Mercer Street, which is nearing completion in SoHo and is notable for its large sliding windows, and of the Arab World Institute and the new Quai Branly Museum, both in Paris.

    The building, which will be LEED certified, is scheduled for occupancy late fall 2008.

    A one-bedroom apartment with 890 square feet is priced at about $1,980,000 and a 3-bedroom unit with three-and-a-half baths and 1,950 square feet is priced at about $4,190,000.

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    In that rendering ^^^ this one looks much wider than prior renderings -- which, given the size of the building site, is a more accurate view than the tall & thin things we've been shown before.

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    The new renderings CityRealty mentions are on the building's website.
    http://www.nouvelchelsea.com/

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    Much as I admire this building, I do have to admit the window placement in this bathroom rendering is really weird. The one window that starts at the floor and ends well short of the ceiling seems to be perfectly positioned for the bather to get out of the tub and announce "Hello world! Check out my hanging scrims!"



    Also I'm not sure about what kind of material they're planning to make the bathroom drawers out of. Frosted glass? Looks sorta cheap and plasticky in this rendering, although with all the high-end finishes they're using in this building I would find that hard to believe.

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    Looks like this will be the preferred choice :


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