Truth is that you know no more than I do about what is going up here. But thank you for confirming your arrogance.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsjCIM, meanwhile, recently reached agreements to relocate two existing tenants on the south side of 57th street, British clothier Turnbull & Asser and Italian jewelry maker Buccellati. Their departures will allow CIM to demolish the existing stores and open up about 100 feet of space on the block, say people familiar with the matter.
The Los Angeles investors considered a boutique hotel at the site, which faces the five-star Four Seasons Hotel on 57th street, but are now expected to devote that space to luxury condos or office and retail, people who know CIM say.
The project is being designed by Rafael Vinoly.
CIM acquired the site of the former Drake Hotel on Park Avenue last year for $305 million, according to public property records. A CIM spokesman declined to comment on the project's financing.
Office space would likely lead to a much shorter tower. That would stink.
Ok, let's bump it up based on the activity at other forums. I think there's something really important to keep in mind here, though. International skyscrapers can be anywhere from incredibly nice (1CMP, Lever House, 1WSP/88Pine), to incredibly bad (1NYP, 55Water, etc). They are all cut from, effectively, the exact same mold. I am not and would not be in any way disappointed with an International style tower with regards to shape (box) or massing (constant). That said, a cheap skin would ruin this building. If that happens, all bets are off.
This is what they're posting on other forums. It looks amazing to me.
Last edited by londonlawyer; August 22nd, 2011 at 07:50 AM.
No they will not go bankrupt. Quite the contrary, they and Macklowe will get filthy rich because New Yorkers (and non-New Yorkers) will snap it all up.
If there is no public review, landmarks review, etc., there is absolutely no reason for any developer to build ambitious in this city. It would just be a waste of money.
Apartments will sell like hotcakes regardless of what it looks like on the outside.
May I add that if any of the buildings in that picture actually looked like that, life would be pretty awful. Thankfully, we don't live in a lossy compression of a bad render.
Even if it only looks remotely like what's in the render, how is this more worthy to share the sky with the empire state building than the tower Verre?
Quick and dirty model based on the mystery renders.
Last edited by STR; August 21st, 2011 at 12:19 AM.
This rendering makes it look like the facade might have some interesting depth to it.
Other sites are reporting 433m (1,420ft)
I hope it will look alot better!!!