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    I'm still optimistic that this will look fine. The rendering doesn't convey a nickle facade so maybe that's why it is perceived as gray. I could only hope that the windows are an ultra clear glass similiar to the NYTIMES Building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stache View Post
    At least a peaked roof or SOMETHING...
    Wonder what a set back top like this would look like on a building this narrow.

    Last edited by Tectonic; June 7th, 2012 at 09:19 PM.

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    From an engineering standpoint, it's somewhat refreshing to see another supertall that maintains its footprint from bottom to top.

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    Once it takes off past its base levels, I wonder how fast they would pour and assemble each floor, given their small sizes and standardized dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCom View Post
    Once it takes off past its base levels, I wonder how fast they would pour and assemble each floor, given their small sizes and standardized dimensions.
    As someone with over 30 years experience in the construction industry I can tell you that there are a thousand different variables that come in to play regarding speed to completion; means/methods, money, politics, A/E design, money, legalities, ect.

    Another words: "Who's John Galt?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by infoshare View Post
    As someone with over 30 years experience in the construction industry I can tell you that there are a thousand different variables that come in to play regarding speed to completion;
    Well, obviously... I thought it was implied.

    Quote Originally Posted by infoshare View Post
    means/methods,
    These have been posted before, right off the official construction documents, including segments that indicate extra high PSI concrete strength (which is something that, IMO, may slow things down a bit)

    Quote Originally Posted by infoshare View Post
    money,
    Of all major U/C projects in New York, this is the one with the most solid financial backing, bankrolled by one of the city's top developers as his "magnum opus" project.

    politics,
    This is the one project that somehow got past all the typical political and legal hurdles, including the Drake Hotel demo and extraordinary height; if anything, I expect minimal political and legal problems.

    A/E design, money, legalities, ect.
    See above ("means/methods", "money" (mentioned twice???), "politics")

    Another words: "Who's John Galt?"
    Not a fan of Ayn Rand, personally.

    Above discussion notwithstanding, my original question still stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCom View Post


    Above discussion notwithstanding, my original question still stands.
    Are you asking for the completion date of the reinforced concrete formwork? The CM may have a scheduled completion date for that phase of the project: in which case at least a rough estimated date of completion may be obtained.

    May I ask: what is your particular interest in such a specialized subject. I often wonder why so many people follow these construction projects so closely.

    http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...crete+formwork
    Last edited by infoshare; July 10th, 2012 at 06:56 PM.

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    My particular interest? None, really, except general interest. But I was asking similar questions since I was around 13 or so, when I first registered on various highrise/urban forums, and later in life such accumulated information allowed me to have a competitive edge against my peers in the job market, during self-presentation to potential employers. Besides, my accumulated base knowledge allowed me to successfully complete my Bachelor of Architecture thesis, which revolved heavily around New York highrises. As they say, the more you know...

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    Superstructure concrete contract was awarded 07-18-12.

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    This tower absolutely sucks.

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    It's a dog, in every sense...this thing is one of those multi-year beasts that will demoralize all and sundry before it's done. It's a Lend Lease job so the Aussies will insist on the laborious "cocoon" that is becoming the expensive fashion for high rise construction in the city...it'll seem to take forever to progress and look like nothing once it's done. It's tall...and that's cool but give me 400 PAS any day over this one.

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    Iagree with you, Irish. 400 PAS is vastly superior. This tower is a 1400 foot monument to Vinoly's incompetence.

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    Last night,



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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    Iagree with you, Irish. 400 PAS is vastly superior. This tower is a 1400 foot monument to Vinoly's incompetence.
    What happened to him? When did he become possesed by a spirit of Emery Roth & Sons?

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