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Thread: 50 East 57th Street @ 432 Park Avenue (former Drake Hotel site)

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    Over a thousand feet of a concrete lego tower is going to be interesting. I only hope Smith and Gill turn out a masterpiece to counterbalance the mediocrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoldanTTLB View Post
    I should think these will cure to much brighter white than this, no? That will probably take a while from pouring. At least a week or two I think.
    You go that right. From what I understand concrete can take weeks to fully cure depending on weather conditions; and it gets much lighter in color as it dries. I like the look of this building, and even the complex construction aspect of a tower this tall and thin is interesting in and of itself: this thread is going to be as long as this building is tall.

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    The cheese stands alone.

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    A bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush?

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    This thing would have been far more appealing if it had a crown.

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    If it was somewhere else.

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    This brings up an interesting question. What do we expect from modern crowns? Does anyone have examples of recent ones they like? Do modern crowns look good on International style buildings? I'm just so torn. I guess I like the tops of the Great American Building, in Cincinnati, the Four Seasons across the street from this, and One Liberty Place and BNY Mellon Center in Philly. But would any of those tops work here? I'm not sure. I'm just s0 torn on the "how a skyscraper should end" part. Could any old square building look better with a pyramid on top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tectonic View Post
    If it was somewhere else.
    Where? It seems to belong here. This stretch of Park Ave is mostly modernism.

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    on the drawing boards...

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    I think a pyramid lit up would be better

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    Quote Originally Posted by lesterp4 View Post
    I think a pyramid lit up would be better
    I completely agree. That seemingly simple thing would transform this stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoldanTTLB View Post
    This brings up an interesting question. What do we expect from modern crowns? Does anyone have examples of recent ones they like? Do modern crowns look good on International style buildings? I'm just so torn. I guess I like the tops of the Great American Building, in Cincinnati, the Four Seasons across the street from this, and One Liberty Place and BNY Mellon Center in Philly. But would any of those tops work here? I'm not sure. I'm just s0 torn on the "how a skyscraper should end" part. Could any old square building look better with a pyramid on top?
    I don't think a crown would work ontop of a "simple" box. The crown should be part of the overall design of the building. There are many examples of beautiful modern crowns: Jin Mao, BoA (Charlotte NC), Princess tower in Dubai and all the buildings that surround it.

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    Agreed. The only way I can imagine this box meeting the sky better is if they continued the square frames up past the roof for a floor or two more to make it look as if the tower were dissolving into the sky.

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    ^ That may look nice since it is like a 'line' going into the sky. Just a lil something at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    Where? It seems to belong here. This stretch of Park Ave is mostly modernism.
    :-) Somewhere tighter where we can't see most of it. Despite my griping I appreciate all the investment NYC is getting. Most cities aren't so fortunate.

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