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    Wow.

    The first iteration was better, though. More totemic.

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    Landmarks Commission Calls for Revisions

    By Staff Reporter of the Sun
    March 5, 2008

    The city's Landmarks Preservation Commission took no action on the proposed development of the Domino Sugar refinery on the Williamsburg waterfront but suggested to the developer, Community Preservation Corporation Resources, to scale back the five-story glass structure proposed for the roof of the Domino building. A spokeswoman for the commission said that the scale of the rooftop addition would overwhelm the height of the landmark building and asked the developer to revise the plans.

    Copyright 2008 The New York Sun.

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    Default Is the LPC run by lice-eating chimps?

    Fools! The towers could possibly remain unchanged, and we'll be left with an incomprehensible, inane development, like 99% of developments in this city, since the entire center of the project's leitmotif, the 5-story glass addition to Domino, will be barely noticeable.

    I love the logic: Let's force developers to keep some (let's face it) underwhelming, miserable factory in its original state, not allowing an interesting addition to the top, while the Newsweek Building is condemned to the Houston, TX-inspired hell that only Moinian is capable of creating. Brilliant, Tierney & Co. You've earned your one-way ticket to Murmansk for the 1,000th time.
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    You are so right, Stroika.

    Don't forget the Hotel Penn also. The hotel is known all over the world. I'm not sure anyone outside of the city (and even many within the city) knows about this Dominos plant.

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    I agree with the Landmarks Commission. I don't see why they have to add to the factory, put that height on the towers and leave the factory the way it is, beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroika View Post
    I love the logic: Let's force developers to keep some (let's face it) underwhelming, miserable factory in its original state, not allowing an interesting addition to the top, while the Newsweek Building is condemned to the Houston, TX-inspired hell that only Moinian is capable of creating.
    Mixed messages here regarding LPC. Whether the factory is landmark worthy is a matter of opinion; the same argument could be made against Newsweek and Hotel Penn. The factory is in fact, a landmark, and LPC is doing exactly what many of us want them to do at Newsweek and Hotel Penn - not allow real estate interests to dominate what is landmarked and how it's developed.

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    Don't forget the Hotel Penn also. The hotel is known all over the world. I'm not sure anyone outside of the city (and even many within the city) knows about this Dominos plant.
    Popularity isn't always a good measure of historical significance.

    Sugar refining was a major industry in New York for 300 years. The Dutch were distilling rum on Staten Island in 1663. It was the city's #1 industry for 50 years after the Civil War.

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    April 22, 2008

    Will the New Domino Include a Hotel?



    It appears that CPC Resources is looking to turn part of the recently landmarked Domino Sugar Refinery into a hotel, according to recent filings with the Department of Buildings. Previous reports about the developer's plans for the structure have not included mention of a hotel, but a CPC filing that the DOB disapproved a couple of months ago shows that the firm wants at least part of the building—it's not clear how much—to be a hotel. The filing also says that the building will contain 306 dwelling units. CPC Resources declined to comment on the matter. In February CPC said it wanted to build residential units starting on the fifth floor of the landmark, which is supposed to sport a five-story glassy addition to its roof that the LPC has not been crazy about.

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    From: The Brooklyn Paper

    http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories...ino_sugar.html

    Pol sour on Domino Sugar plant proposal


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    The proposed development at the former Domino Sugar plant would include four towers over 30 stories high.

    By Ben Muessig
    The Brooklyn Paper


    A local lawmaker has opened a new front against the proposed Domino Sugar mega-project, demanding that the developers behind the glassy waterfront high-rises open their books so that he can independently assess the project’s finances.

    Assemblyman Joe Lentol (D–Williamsburg) told The Brooklyn Paper that he can not support the $1.2-billion, 2,200-unit project until the developer justifies the need for two 30-story and two 40-story towers.
    “If we’re going to have a project of that magnitude, I really want to see the facts and the figures that require them to build that high and that dense,” Lentol said.

    The developer, Community Preservation Corporation Resources, maintains that it needs to build skyscrapers to fund the preservation of iconic refinery buildings and to build open space and 660 units of low-and middle-income housing.

    A spokesman for the company, Richard Edmonds, pointed out that CPC’s affordable housing promises are far more generous than other developers. Under the current proposal, 100 rentals are reserved for families making just $21,000 per year, 330 rentals for families making up to $40,000 per year, 100-rentals for seniors who earn less than half of the area’s median income, and 130 for-sale units for families making up to $90,000 per year.
    “We’re not like other developers,” said Edmonds. “Not only are we providing more units of affordable housing [than other developments], but the units themselves will be more affordable.”

    But Lentol — who supported the much-larger Atlantic Yards project in low-rise Prospect Heights, despite its less-generous affordable housing component — won’t back Domino until he can eye the dollars.

    “If they want us to continue to give them the benefit of the doubt, they need to make the financials transparent,” said Amy Cleary, a spokeswoman for Lentol. “They keep saying, ‘We’re making very little money,’ but they’re not showing us that.”
    Edmonds said Lentol is asking the impossible.
    “Show me any developer who divulges his finances,” Edmonds said. “If people ask, ‘Why should we believe CPC?’ they should look at CPC’s track record. We’ve lent more than $7 billion to finance 150,000 units of affordable housing over a 33-year period.”

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    There's a very good reason private companies only disclose their financial information to auditors. Stick with the program, Lentol.

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    That sounds like a very generous developer, and if their track record is what they say then why the hell is this guy kicking up a fuss.

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    He's kicking up a fuss because he probably just doesn't want it to happen and he's looking for any reason at all.

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    And the NIMBYs have his ear.

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    It is probable that residents have his ear as opposed to "NIMBY's". Williamsburg is an ugly mess and stands to remain an ugly mess without some sort of development guidance. Some individual projects look attractive on paper, but the integration of old and new is just atrocious.

    I have friends who bought condos in Williamsburg in the first wave and, by and large, they all would like to bail on the neighborhood. What they have ain't workin'. There are hipsters, so hip it hurtsters, low-income hispanics, low income and socially inept hasidics, and condo owners. There's no "melting pot" in that neighborhood - just divides to surmount.

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    from todays curbed:




    Behold the New & Approved Old Domino Plant with Glass Box
    This is rendering of the revised plan for the old Domino Sugar Plant in Williamsburg that was approved a little more than an hour ago by the Landmarks Preservation Commission. An earlier version was turned down. The design from Beyer Blinder Belle has some changes: the five-story glass addition to the 1884 building has been cut to four stories and been redesigned. The mechanical elements on top have been removed. The old Domino sign, which is currently on an adjacent building would be moved to the top of the landmarked structure. There are also balcony-type structures that have been added to the south side of the building. The other headline to come out of the meeting is that the developers expect to break ground in Fall 2009 on the massive project. The $1.3 billion project would ultimately have 2,200 units of housing. Brownstoner was on hand to live blog the LPC meeting and also has a set of photos and renderings from the session.

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    Glad to see this one moving foward. Although it has been redesigned and some of the elements have been cutback from the original plan, it's good to see much of the original plant will be left as is.

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