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    Bohemian Hopes Dashed as Hotel Chelsea Sale is Finalized

    By Serena Solomon

    MIDTOWN — Bohemian hopes have been dashed by an $80 million deal that will sell the Hotel Chelsea to developer Joseph Chetrit, the Real Deal reported.

    The legendary building at 222 W. 23rd St. has become a memorial to the neighborhood's past as an artist's haven, with a list of residents including Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen and Janis Joplin.

    Despite rumors that the hotel was closing for reservations over the weekend, die-hard fans and longtime residents still held out hope that the sale would fall through.

    It didn't.

    It was finalized on Monday at 5:30 p.m, brokered by Eastdil Secured’s Douglas Harmon, the Real Deal reported.

    Chetrit's plans are not clear. However, according to the New York Observer, the building will eventually return to its function as a hotel — albeit with a different design. Gene Kaufman, an architect who often works on chain hotels, has been brought in for the redesign.

    The Chelsea first opened in 1884 as apartments and became a hotel in 1905. Since that time, the hotel website claims, it was “the birthplace of creative modern art and the home of bad behavior.”

    In 1953, former tenant Dylan Thomas died of alcohol poisoning there, and famous resident, Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols, is rumored to have stabbed his girlfriend Nancy Spungen to death there in 1978.

    While long-term residents remain, the hotel has closed for reservations to prepare for the upcoming renovations.

    Management of the Hotel Chelsea did not return calls for comment.

    http://www.dnainfo.com/20110803/chel...#ixzz1UEXd3MEr

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    Hotel Chelsea Lobby Stripped Of Its Art, History, Character


    Courtesy of the Hotel Chelsea Blog

    Real estate investor Joseph Chetrit now holds the keys to the legendary Hotel Chelsea, after getting an $85 million loan and closing the deal last week. The hotel already stopped taking reservations, and no guests are left in the building... but long time residents still have no idea what's going to happen to them. In the meantime, the new owner has taken down all of the art, in what appears to be an attempt to rip the heart and soul from the place. What you see above is the current state of the lobby, which used to be adorned with layers of artwork that have accumulated throughout the years (the art has also slowly been disappearing from the building's stunning staircase).

    The lobby is now a ghost of its former self, but maybe Chetrit plans to put it all back together after a little paint job? So far he hasn't stepped out from behind the curtain to reveal his plan for the building, but it's not looking good. One resident told us this morning, "There still has been no official communication with residents beyond a letter which told residents where to go to pay their rent. Residents whose personal property was removed from the walls are being told to send a certified letter with proof of ownership to the Chelsea Dynasty, LLC."

    http://gothamist.com/2011/08/11/hotel_chelsea_lobby.php

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    Chelsea Checked Out

    Community on edge as new owner plans renovation of cherished wreck.

    by Tom Stoelker



    After sightings of Andre Balazs and W Hotel executives slipping into the lobby, the Chelsea Hotel, that high church of poetry and punk, finally found a buyer in August for $80 million. The property landed in the vast portfolio of Joseph Chetrit, a stealth investor who bought Chicago’s Sears Tower with partners in 2004 and has somehow become a major New York real estate player while avoiding the spotlight. That may not be possible any longer. Everyone from Chelsea locals and Didi Ramone fans to lovers of raunch and Hart Crane’s poetry feel that a piece of quintessential New York is now on the line.

    The Chelsea’s ramshackle quality was always considered part of its charm. A dank basement odor permeated much of the building. Blackouts, pipe bursts, and mice were common. Walls contain several generations worth of wires and pipes run naked along hallways. Fire escapes are only at the west end of the hotel. (Disclosure: I lived in the hotel for seven years.) The Bard family, who managed the hotel for much of the last century, seemed to take better care of the tenants than of the building. Artwork was often exchanged for rent.


    The art-filled lobby.

    Amidst the tumult of the last few years, many commercial tenants and several residents moved out. Those remaining will endure months of empty halls save for construction workers as the hotel has stopped accepting overnight guests to make way for a major renovation. Architect Gene Kaufman, who will oversee the project, has worked with the Chetrit Organization before. Like Chetrit, Kaufman has quietly built a substantial portfolio of boutique hotels, while staying below the radar. He made a summertime splash when he purchased a majority stake in Gwathmey Siegal (now Gwathmey Siegel Kaufman & Associates).

    Outside of relocating the check-in counter to the old manager’s office, Kaufman didn’t divulge many design plans. He did say he’d like to keep a few time-worn elements. “The notion of shabby is nice but not if you have a spring poking through the seat,” he said. “There’s a fine line between that kind of feel and that which a hotel customer is willing to accept.” He added that the randomness of the various room layouts and assorted histories from Dylan Thomas to Jimi Hendrix would be emphasized. “I like that notion of individuality and paying respect to specific rooms.

    We’ve been talking about how to do that without a theme park approach.”

    And then there is the art. Some, but not all, of the paintings and sculpture were included in the sale. From Larry Rivers to Barry Flanagan, the lobby’s collection was truly world class. But there was also a ton of art in the stairwell, the hallways, and in the basement. In some cases not even the artists know the status of their work. Joe Andoe isn’t sure if his traffic-stopping painting of a white horse in the lobby made it into the deal. Kaufman said “a major person in the art world” has been enlisted to help catalog the art and mount a show while the hotel is closed.

    Kaufman has few memories of the dive apart from one snowbound night years ago watching the lobby sideshow. Though he doesn’t claim any rock n’ roll credentials, he does remember a New York in the 1970s that was a lot wilder. “Now the culture has transformed itself, but that was the norm at the time,” he said. Indeed, times have changed. When the guests return they’ll likely be more inclined to head to the High Line than to set a fire, Sid Vicious-style, in a closet.

    http://www.archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=5622

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    When the guests return they’ll likely be more inclined to head to the High Line than to set a fire, Sid Vicious-style, in a closet.
    Might be better to set fire to it now rather that let Gene Kaufman Hack it up into another one of his putrid piles.

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    Hotel Chelsea Renovations Prompt Health Probe
    October 21, 2011 6:37am | By Mathew Katz, DNAinfo Reporter/Producer




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    CHELSEA — The renovations underway at the Hotel Chelsea have prompted some of the few remaining residents to hire a lawyer and environmental assessment team to make sure they're safe while the landmark building is gutted.
    A video obtained by DNAinfo shows some of the demolition efforts on the 222 W. 23rd St. building's seventh floor, including torn-up chunks of wall and dumpsters holding beams and insulation.

    The video, which shows the hallway outside actor Ethan Hawke's former apartment, gives a stark look at the hotel's blank walls which, until as recently as the summer, were covered in artwork from residents both famous and anonymous. The sale of the building to developer Joseph Chetrit was finalized on Aug. 1.
    Olmsted Environmental Services, the company hired to assess the renovation, did not respond to calls.
    Extensive renovations are underway at the Hotel Chelsea, including actor Ethan Hawke's old apartment. (Hotel Chelsea Resident)

    "[Olmsted] was there for hours yesterday, taking dust samples, examining conditions," said the tenants' association's lawyer Samuel Himmelstein.
    Tenants are concerned that the building, constructed in 1884, is so old that dangerous building materials could inadvertently be released by workers during renovations. The final results from the environment assessment should be available within the next few days, Himmelstein said.
    "I cannot make speculations, but I know when I breathe the air, I don’t feel comfortable," said Zoe Pappas, an engineer and artist who lives in the hotel. "We could see the dust, we could see the debris coming through the elevator and through the lobbies."

    Pappas has formed a tenant's group with about 40 other Hotel Chelsea residents. The hotel stopped taking guests over the summer, though long-term residents remain.
    Michael Brown, a lawyer for Chetrit, could not comment on the renovations, saying they were still in the planning stages.
    Gene Kaufman, the architect in charge of the work on the Chelsea, did not respond to a request for comment, though in an interview in the summer, he described the renovation as a "subtle" one.

    One Hotel Chelsea resident, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of legal repercussions, said that the renovations, especially those on the seventh floor, were anything but subtle. The same resident feared the renovations would hurt the character of the building where Sid Vicious, Leonard Cohen and Uma Thurman once lived.
    According to Department of Buildings records, the work includes redoing the hotel's floors, assessing the structural integrity of the walls, replacing plumbing and electrical fixtures as well as the heating and air conditioning system.
    Pappas said she was not trying to stop the renovation, just making sure it's safe.
    "This is not about our reaction to the building being upgraded. We are very happy about it," she said. "What it is about is respect for people who live here and for following the law."

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    DOB Records for 216-22 West 23rd lists the Gene Kaufman Application for "INTERIOR DEMO OF EXISTING HOTEL ROOMS; PARTITIONS, CEILINGS AND DOORS AS SHOWN ON DRAWINGS FILED HEREWITH" and shows the Virtual Job Folder includes a NYC DEP form ACP-5 (Aka "NOT AN ASBESTOS PROJECT") filed by a Certified Asbestos Investigator which claims numerous samples taken throughout the building and analyzed show no asbestos present.

    Perhaps the 1888 building is old enough that it pre-dates the use of asbestos, although asbestos became widely used right around that time:

    Near the end of the 19th century, the use asbestos became even more widespread as a result of the industrial revolution. Asbestos was used in the manufacture of more than 3000 products including textiles, building materials, insulation and brake linings. Its use continued to increase through the 1970s. At that time the evidence against asbestos as a health hazard (it was found to cause asbestosis and mesothelioma) could no longer be denied, and its use fell into sudden decline.


    None of this dismisses the possible health risks from regular old construction dust, which should be contained so that it doesn't infiltrate occupied areas outside of the construction zone.

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    I was actually thinking 'Really? Now they have health concerns?'

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    They've got to be kidding! Haven't they done enough damage already.


    Hotel Chelsea Owners Seek Landmarks Permit to Add Rooftop Extension

    By Mathew Katz

    CHELSEA — Owners of the Hotel Chelsea have come under fire for gutting the inside of the former artists' mecca — and now they're angering foes by asking for permission to build an extension atop the landmarked West 23rd Street hotel.

    The Chetrit Group has filed an application with the city's Landmarks Preservation Commission to "construct additions and rooftop bulkheads, install mechanical equipment and balcony partitions; and replace ground floor infill, windows, and a canopy" at the hotel at 222 W. 23rd St., according to the LPC.

    For years, hotel owners and managers have made no secret of their desire to build a rooftop bar on top of the famed Chelsea Hotel. The Department of Buildings rejected a November application to move ahead with the bar, largely because of a lack of proper fire exits from the rooftop.

    Last month, however, the Department of Buildings approved the hotel's application to build a 16-to-30-foot tall rooftop scaffolding that would serve as a template for the landmarks commission to mock up what the proposed new structure would look like.

    The two-story scaffolding — the approximate height of the bar the Chetrits want to build — is currently in place on the roof, according to residents of the hotel and its neighboring buildings.
    Officials with The Chetrit Group could not be reached Tuesday.

    The proposed changes to the rooftop could lead to another costly confrontation between the hotel's roughly 100 remaining tenants and the Chetrits.

    "This is a landmark building and you don’t want to put something that doesn't fit it all," said Zoe Pappas, who leads a hotel tenant's association. "Plus, there are people who are living in the other buildings nearby, which are residential. There is a synagogue next to us. I’m not sure that this is the way to go."

    A resident of the neighboring Carteret said the scaffolding blocks the sunlight, and the idea of a noisy rooftop bar is "terrifying" to fellow Carteret tenants.

    The application was set to go before Community Board 4's Landmarks Committee on Feb. 15 and then to the city's Landmarks Preservation Committee on Feb. 21. That meeting has been delayed until March, but it was not immediately clear why.

    In December, lawyer Samuel Himmelstein filed a lawsuit on behalf of 34 tenants against the hotel's landlord, asking the court to order the landlord to repair dangerous conditions in the apartments and the hotel's common area that tenants said were created by months of renovations. In January, a judge ordered the Chetrits to remove dangerous asbestos from the hotel's shaft space.

    Some of the hotel's residents have also accused Chetrit of trying to evict them.

    http://www.dnainfo.com/20120207/chel...#ixzz1lkLtLfSa

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    It probably got delayed atCB4 because Kaufman has been notorious in the past for showing up unprepared, without the requisite images to show how a rooftop extension would be viewed from areas nearby.

    Given that the LPC recently OK'd a rooftop add-on at the Puck, I bet they'll eventually allow something here, too.

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    Two landmarks (whatever the heck that's worth these days ) down, how many more desecrations to bemoan in the future, hey, LPC?

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    As many as the owners' have sufficient money & clout to sway Commission opinion.

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    I am not pleased about this.

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    Reminds me of the Plaza redo (and funny, another group from the Middle East ruining another iconic historic NY hotel).

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    A strange case against Joseph Chetrit:

    http://therealdeal.com/blog/2011/06/...-out-of-court/
    Last edited by Fabrizio; February 9th, 2012 at 08:45 AM.

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    Hotel Chelsea's Secluded Rooftop Oasis Now Just a Mystery

    by Dave Hogarty





    Unhappy residents fear that the owners of the Hotel Chelsea are seeking approval to build a bass-thumping nightclub on top of the building, but the landlord for the landmarked building was tight-lipped during a community board meeting last night to discuss plans, and renderings of a rooftop addition have been almost comically non-descriptive; invisible even. At the CB4 meeting this week, building residents wanted the board to delay any addition and renovation plans due to a lack of information about the plans and unanswered questions. What they heard at the meeting probably did not leave them satisfied. Architect Gene Kaufman was not willing to say what the rooftop addition was going to be, nor could he say how many square feet the plans detailed.

    Above are some pictures from Jeremiah Moss's Vanishing New York, which shows the organic-looking gardens on the roof of the Hotel Chelsea in 2007, before ownership transferred to the Chetrit Group. All of the changes can't be put on the new ownership, however. David Bard, son of former Hotel Chelsea manager Stanley Bard, had a 2BR rooftop bungalow installed in 2001.

    Chelsea Hotel Tenants Face Off With Landlord's Team [DNAinfo]
    Chelsea Rooftop [VNY]

    http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/0...stery.php#more

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    The proposal includes replacing the building’s windows...
    What? Why are they even discussing things like this? What happened to the exterior being landmarked?

    ...which many residents fear will become a noisy bar. “We did not come here to talk about what’s inside,” Kaufman said.
    Well, with a response like that, the Chelsea Hotel as we know it is doomed.



    Chelsea Hotel Tenants Face Off With Landlord's Team

    By Mathew Katz | DNAinfo

    CHELSEA — Beleaguered tenants of the Hotel Chelsea came face-to-face with representatives of the landmarked building's landlord at a tense meeting to decide the fate of the iconic address' facade.

    At a standing room only meeting, members of the Community Board 4 Landmarks Committee voted to ask the city’s Landmarks Preservation Committee to delay a decision on an application to modify the exterior of the build at 222 W. 23rd St.

    They cited a lack of information about the plans and many unanswered questions.

    The proposal includes replacing the building’s windows, building new water towers, constructing two new elevators, replacing certain storefronts and, most controversially, adding a 16-to-30 foot high rooftop extension on the western part of the building.

    The plan’s architect, Gene Kaufman, refused to answer several committee member’s questions, including those about what the rooftop would be used for. He also lacked information the committee deemed relevant to the plans, including the square-footage of the rooftop space.

    The height of the space is currently represented by a set of scaffolding on the roof, which Kaufman argued could barely be seen from the street.

    While the CB4 Landmarks Committee can only make decisions based on the building’s exterior, they were particularly interested in the extension, which many residents fear will become a noisy bar.

    “We did not come here to talk about what’s inside,” Kaufman said.

    Kaufman came to the meeting with more detailed documents than were submitted to the board, but would not promised to get the committee the expanded documents.

    “Do you have something to hide?” asked Community Board 4 Chair Corey Johnson, shaking his head. “I find that to be an unacceptable answer."

    Michael Butler, an attorney for the Chetrit Group, which owns the hotel, eventually said he would provide the board the complete plans.

    A lobbyist for the Chetrits, Kathleen Cudahy, would not say specifically what the rooftop extension would be used for.

    “When you have a rooftop addition on a hotel, it’s going to be related to a hotel use, with the understanding that there are hotel residents who have lived there for many years and will continue to live there,” Cudahy said.

    “That could mean a bar. That could mean a lounge. That could mean a spa.”

    Dozens of hotel residents were also in attendance, and used the meeting to voice their concerns about the hotel’s controversial renovation, including the recent discovery of asbestos in several of the hotel’s air shafts.

    “What are the plans for asbestos abatement?” asked resident Meli Pennington. “We’re in the dark as to our safety. We live in this building. Many of us work in this building.”

    Neighbors of nearby buildings also expressed concerns about the noise coming from construction and a potential rooftop party space.

    Other tenants were worried new elevators would replace air shafts that as many as 22 apartments are connected to.

    “Many of us live on that air shaft, “ said one resident. “It was not clear how far down the elevator would go.”

    “There are no tenants there,” said Kaufman. “It’s a continuous air shaft that runs through the building.”

    The proposed changes are currently scheduled to go before the Landmarks Preservation Commission, which will make a final decision on them in March. If the CB4 committee’s request to the commission is granted, that will likely be delayed by at least a month.

    “I just have not got answers to this and I certainly cannot vote to approve this until I get some answers,” said committee member Jean-Daniel Noland.
    Committee members also said they would ask the board to take up tenants’ concerns about the dangers of the ongoing renovation.

    http://www.dnainfo.com/20120216/chel...#ixzz1mjzExDVN

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