Are there any NYers even reading this thread anymore? Or is this just the London Lovers/Haters society.
Seriously guys. Fab does not seem to hate London, but the more you trumpet it, the more you force him into a corner to find articles and post a position in opposition to your own.
Have any of the London Lovers admitted any shortcomings of their town? Or has it been 100% defense? I think I saw Mer acquiesce on a few points, but Jaeg, all I see from you is showuing how London has ledss crime than Detroit, better dental hygene than Burma and better weather than Seattle.
I am not asking any of you to jump to the other "side" and support your "opponent" in this "discussion", but still.... " " (I needed one more set of quotation marks).
You can continue on your crime-comparison, but try to avoid generalizations and direct comparisons of everything between London and other cities, or England and other nations. It will only lead to arguments.
To our American friends: Can you see your Police being told this!
This is what British Police have been reduced to! It's an utter disgrace all in the "interests" of that overly politically-correct concept of "health & safety" - whatever happened to "common sense" and the concept of helping those in need?
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/...n_page_id=1770
No Burma has better Dental Hygiene than the US, where 108 million don't have dental care, London has less annual rain fall than New York or Seattle, and London has one of the lowest levels of serious crime in the world, better than NY City which nearly has as many murders as the whole of England and Wales.Originally Posted by Ninjahedge
Are there any NYers even reading this thread anymore? Or is this just the London Lovers/Haters society.
Seriously guys. Fab does not seem to hate London, but the more you trumpet it, the more you force him into a corner to find articles and post a position in opposition to your own.
Have any of the London Lovers admitted any shortcomings of their town? Or has it been 100% defense? I think I saw Mer acquiesce on a few points, but Jaeg, all I see from you is showuing how London has ledss crime than Detroit, better dental hygene than Burma and better weather than Seattle.
I am not asking any of you to jump to the other "side" and support your "opponent" in this "discussion", but still.... " " (I needed one more set of quotation marks).
You can continue on your crime-comparison, but try to avoid generalizations and direct comparisons of everything between London and other cities, or England and other nations. It will only lead to arguments.
Say what!!! I never knew that NYC was half the size of London???
Measured in what way?
Hear hear!!! The voice of reason at last.Are there any NYers even reading this thread anymore? Or is this just the London Lovers/Haters society.
Seriously guys. Fab does not seem to hate London, but the more you trumpet it, the more you force him into a corner to find articles and post a position in opposition to your own.
Have any of the London Lovers admitted any shortcomings of their town? Or has it been 100% defense? I think I saw Mer acquiesce on a few points, but Jaeg, all I see from you is showuing how London has ledss crime than Detroit, better dental hygene than Burma and better weather than Seattle.
I am not asking any of you to jump to the other "side" and support your "opponent" in this "discussion", but still.... " " (I needed one more set of quotation marks).
You can continue on your crime-comparison, but try to avoid generalizations and direct comparisons of everything between London and other cities, or England and other nations. It will only lead to arguments.
let this thread die a death.
London and NY are both great cities, lets leave it at that.
By the way London and NY have about the same population, around 8 million, NY is not half the size at all.
Last edited by Meerkat; October 1st, 2007 at 01:14 PM.
Agree.
Georgraphicaly New York City is half the size, go look it up, I wasn't talking about population.
New York City - Land - 303.3 Square Miles (785.6 kmē)
Greater London - Land - 609 Square Miles (1,577.3 kmē)
These are also the ares patrolled by each cities police.
Half the size, but twice as nice.
At least.
If this was true then there would never have been a rise in crime. NYC has not expanded significantly since the late 1800's. Further the gentrification and being small have nothing to do with lowering of crime. Higher employment rates would be a better gauge to show why crime lowered. You seem to hold some very weird concepts of what caused crime to drop.
What do you mean by Greater london? Is it like the city of London plus the metro? I don't get it.
Greater London
Greater London is the top-level administrative subdivision covering London, England. The administrative area was created in 1965 and covers the City of London and 32 London boroughs. Its area also forms the London region of England and the London European Parliament constituency. The Greater London region has by far the highest GDP/capita in the entire United Kingdom.
It covers 1579 kmē (609 square miles) and had a 2006 mid-year estimated population of 7,512,400.[1] It is bounded by the Home Counties of Essex and Hertfordshire in the East of England region and Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Surrey and Kent in South East England. The highest point is Westerham Heights, in the North Downs and on the boundary with Kent, at 245 metres (804 ft).
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Greater London Urban Area
The Greater London Urban Area is the conurbation or continuous urban area based around London, in south east England with an estimated population of 8,505,000,[1] The urban area measured 1,623.3 kmē as of the 2001 Census.
The Greater London Urban Area includes most, but not all of Greater London (for example excluding Biggin Hill, which is surrounded by countryside), while taking in many surrounding areas such as Hemel Hempstead, Woking and Dartford that aren't generally considered parts of London itself and lie outside London's borders. It is a wholly urban area, so it is not as large as the metropolitan area. The urban area does not include places such as Slough, Luton and Potters Bar, that have gaps of countryside in between the towns themselves and the main urban area of London. The Metropolitan area has a population of 12-14 million, depending on which borders are used. The figure used by Government agencies as the area to which people commute in to London from for work is also slightly different and is known as the Travel to Work Area.
The growth of the urban area's physical extent has largely been curtailed since the development of the Metropolitan Green Belt in 1938, which limited development within a ring of countryside around London. As London's economy has grown and house prices have risen this has led to the growth of the London commuter belt - the London urban area, plus a ring of towns that are physically separate from the urban area but still functionally operate largely as suburbs, with large proportions of their populations dependent on the urban area for employment.
Most of the population growth of the Greater London Urban Area is the result of brownfield development and increasing population density.
^ If Greater London Urban Area is so big, shouldn't it have way more population the New York City? I mean it has a little bit more, but not alot. It should be as big as the New York metro. They sure need more immigration.
and three times as civilised.
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