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    I lived in various parts of town ... initially stayed with friends in a great loft above their shop on Market at Brady Street (just west of Van Ness). After that I was on Franklin near Jackson for a few months. Then over to Nob Hill (your neck of the woods): A sublet on Sacramento above Leavenworth. That was all in my first year! And none of those places cost me more than $50 / month!!

    The next year I was on Noe & 19th on the first floor of a two-unit Victorian. My room was in the converted back porch with a loft bed that looked out across the backyard and up to Twin Peaks. My share of rent there was ~ $65 / month

    After that I found heaven at $75 / month: a great old Victorian house on Collingwood Street which had been built by a mayor of SF back in the late 1800s. A friend lived there and one of his roommates was moving out. I moved in. It was a one-story white Queen Anne with a red front door. There 4 bedrooms (great for the communal life) and a terrific kitchen with lots of light. The house was surrounded on 3 sides by an old and very overgrown garden. Out the back kitchen door and through the yard was found a little old playhouse tucked in the corner, covered with a sprawling bower of white climbing roses. Across the patio was a pyracantha enclosed grotto (we completed the scene by the addition of a statue of Mary we picked up down in the Mission). From the living room could be seen a side garden of camelias and calla lilies. The front yard was dominated by a huge old acacia tree which bloomed profusely in February -- the yellow blossoms intoxicatingly sweet. The trimming and care of the garden became my hobby while living there. Unfortunately that house burned down shortly after I moved from SF to NYC. Some rather unfortunate condos now sit on that lot.

    SF was a great place to come of age. Back then it was cheap and full of fun. Plus I was pursuing my dream and learning a craft. All in all it was great.

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    You can find a comfortable 1BR in Jackson Heights in the $1000-1200 range. It's a 15-20 minute commute from Grand Central. I moved here from Berkeley five years ago, and while I miss the Berkeley Bowl and Freight & Salvage, I don't regret my choice of a NYC neighborhood.

    If you're interested, come see what the community is talking about at www.jacksonheightslife.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punzie View Post
    Ask your father why he would not consider renting an apartment in FOREST HILLS, Queens, right on the subway line to Manhattan. No doubt he will remember that it was beautiful in the 1960s.
    I asked him about that. He did say it was "nice". I'm slowly chipping away at him. My Dad grew up near the Apollo theater in Harlem during those days, so I can see why he's a bit iffy. I remember visiting that area last summer around 2am. It seemed really nice actually. But everything has changed and I think he is slowly realizing this! Well he has to realize, 'cause we have no other choice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrissySF View Post
    It seemed really nice actually ... everything has changed ...
    The downside of all this is Duane-Reade, branch banks and chain stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    The downside of all this is Duane-Reade, branch banks and chain stores.
    I think those Duane Reade's are quite cute. We don't have those out here. All we have is Walgreens, Long's Drugs, and Rite Aid. But Duane Reade out there seems to be a bit excessive like Walgreens. There's like one on every block! Just like Starbucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrissySF View Post
    I asked him about that. He did say it was "nice". I'm slowly chipping away at him. My Dad grew up near the Apollo theater in Harlem during those days, so I can see why he's a bit iffy. I remember visiting that area last summer around 2am. It seemed really nice actually. But everything has changed and I think he is slowly realizing this! Well he has to realize, 'cause we have no other choice!
    Are you and your dad planning a visit to NY before you move out? You can fly on Jet Blue for $159 each way, even if only for a day trip (so you don't have to pay for a Hotel). It is chance to show your father how much places he is against have changed over the years.

    My family is mostly from Brooklyn, my Mother and Grandpaents moved out to Long Island in the mid 70's before moving upstate 10 years ago. Believe me I can relate to your situation with your father! My Mother and Grandmother still have a mental image of Brooklyn 20-30+ years ago. Before I convinced them otherwise they thought Williamsburg was bad, "and nobody should move there..." lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 718Bound View Post
    Are you and your dad planning a visit to NY before you move out? You can fly on Jet Blue for $159 each way, even if only for a day trip (so you don't have to pay for a Hotel). It is chance to show your father how much places he is against have changed over the years.

    My family is mostly from Brooklyn, my Mother and Grandpaents moved out to Long Island in the mid 70's before moving upstate 10 years ago. Believe me I can relate to your situation with your father! My Mother and Grandmother still have a mental image of Brooklyn 20-30+ years ago. Before I convinced them otherwise they thought Williamsburg was bad, "and nobody should move there..." lol
    We already visited during the summer. My Dad just mainly stayed up in Massachusetts because we have some family up there. I just mainly stayed around the city and looked around. It's really nice during the summer time. It seems extremely safe from what my parents told me.
    You should have heard my Mom when I told her about walking around New York City at 2am. "Are you crazy?"

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    Some good news to share with your folks ...

    City On Pace To Have Fewest Homicides In Its History

    NY 1 News
    December 26, 2007

    While the murder rate nationwide is on the rise, the city is on pace to see its fewest homicides in recorded history.

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly and members of Harlem's 28th Precinct were on hand Wednesday to announce the 2007 crime statistics.

    They said that if patterns continue through Monday, there will have been less than 500 murders committed across the five boroughs in the past year.

    The latest NYPD statistics also show overall crime is on the decline. There was a 17-percent decrease in murder, a 13-percent decrease in crime in the subway system, an 11-percent decrease in rape, and a 36-percent drop in domestic violence murders.

    There was an overall drop in crime of 6 percent.

    "We are not the same New York that we were in 1990 -- a year when more then 2,000 people were murdered," said Bloomberg. "But we are also not the same city we were in 2001, when many predicted that our crime fighting gains would soon reach a point of diminishing returns."

    In Harlem, there has also been a significant drop in crime.

    Overall crime has dropped 21 percent in that area in the past year. Murder has dropped 73 percent and rape 41 percent.

    "Our philosophy has always been one crime is one crime too many," continued Bloomberg. "We've defied conventional wisdom, we've bucked national crime trends."

    However, crime remains a problem in some areas of northern Brooklyn. Nearly two dozen precincts have had more murders this year compared to last.

    As a result, the police commissioner said that starting in early January, the newest class of Police Academy graduates will patrol those neighborhoods as part of Operation Impact.

    In fact, 1,800 Impact officers will patrol the city -- double the number at this time last year.

    "We are now going to take this entire class, put them in Operation Impact, keep the officers in Operation Impact now, until we see indicators that we have to move them," said Kelly.

    For the past few years, the department has taken about two-thirds of each graduating class and put them on the street in high-crime neighborhoods, replacing them after six months with the next class of recruits. Now, the last class will stay in operation impact and everyone in the latest graduating class will join them.

    The announcement comes just a few weeks after Kelly said he was considering scaling back the program because of recruiting problems. He says a new analysis found it was feasible to expand it, at least for the next few months.

    "Probably about a third of the officers assigned to impact will be in Brooklyn," said the police commissioner. "The precincts we're going to focus on will be the 71st Precinct, the 75th, 73rd, 77th and 79th Precincts."

    Precincts in the Bronx, Manhattan and Queens will also get more officers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrissySF View Post
    You should have heard my Mom when I told her about walking around New York City at 2am. "Are you crazy?"
    Away from The City, the old stereotype is still so deeply ingrained, whatever you've been told about New York is probably wrong.

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    This may seem a dumb or insensitive question but how were the deaths of 9/11 victims recognised by the city? Weren't their deaths all homicide?

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    Property belongs to Port Authority yes? A dual-state agency with dual-state ownership ...

    Is the WTC site technically part of NYC or is it a separate entity?

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    Its PA land isnt it? Not part of the city then, aha.

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    Incorrect. PA owns the land; the land remains subject to most traditional state jurisdictional powers, including criminal laws. You kill someone at the PABT, NY's court's can try and imprison you. The PA has police but no criminal courts or judges. Google "Port Authority New York Jersey Compact" for the legal stuff. Since the FBI does not track deaths by dustification, I believe that the casualties of 9/11, if they happened, were not officially recognized.

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    Also, do not let your father turn his nose up on all of NJ.

    It all depends on where you choose to live. Areas in Jersey City are nice, and close to transport to Midtown (PATH trains) and Hoboken is also convenient and uber-gentrified.

    Some of the suburbs are nice also (Ridgewood, Montclair, etc) but may be a bit far to commute for classes.

    I think you really need to spend a few days (weeks) out here and check out the areas you are thinking of moving to to see what fits you best. Crime, in all but a few areas, is a non-issue now and the important things would be:

    1. Cost
    2. Convenience
    3. Atmosphere.

    GL!

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    Update:

    My Dad's job wants him to start on the first week of March. So we'll be leaving San Francisco on February 29th for NYC!

    The only problem is: my school won't take me right now. So I think I'm going to have to go to a public school for the remainder of the year and start off fresh for the next school year.

    I just wanted to let all of you know! NYC is a amazing place and I cannot wait to be there! I just hear it's going to be cold around those months? My Dad is used to that kind of weather. But me...I'm a California girl!

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