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    Wall Street Journal
    August 27, 2012

    9/11 museum offers guide to aid commemorations

    Associated Press

    NEW YORK — The Sept. 11 museum at ground zero is offering a hand on planning commemorations elsewhere as the anniversary of the terror attacks approaches.

    The National September 11 Memorial & Museum released a remembrance guide online Monday. The guide includes a list of the nearly 3,000 victims of the attacks, interactive timelines, lesson plans about memorialization and ideas for sharing reflections through social media.

    Many communities already hold their own commemorations. The museum says it gets requests from groups seeking the victims' names, educational materials or other information. So organizers say they decided to make their resources more easily available.

    Almost 4.5 million people have visited the outdoor memorial since it opened last September. The accompanying museum was originally set to open this September but has been delayed amid a financial disagreement.



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    I'm glad they're not offering lessons on financial planning!

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    Voices of America
    September 5, 2012

    National 9/11 Museum at Standstill as Anniversary Nears

    By Carolyn Weaver


    NEW YORK — More than 4 million people have visited the September 11 Memorial in New York City since it opened last year on the 10th anniversary of the terror attacks on New York and Washington, D.C. Visitors from around the world come to watch the waterfalls rush into the deep footprints of the former World Trade Center Twin Towers and to read the names of those who died, etched in bronze panels surrounding the pools.

    But work on the September 11 Museum at the site, which was to open in time for the 11th anniversary of the attacks, stopped months ago because of financial disputes between the private foundation that owns the Memorial & Museum, and the public Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the World Trade Center site.

    The museum’s steel and glass entry hall is built, but its interior is unfinished, and a sign outside warns visitors away. Monica Iken, whose husband, Michael, died in the attacks, calls the impasse a disgrace.

    "It’s an embarrassment for the world to see," she said. "They come there, and I’ve been there several times where people come up to me and say, 'Where’s the museum, why is it not open?' How do you explain that: 'Oh, because we’re fighting over some money?'"

    Museum renderings show visitors entering under huge trident beams from the original buildings, and taking escalators down to cavernous galleries that will hold damaged rescue vehicles and a set of stairs down which some survivors fled. Photographic and sound exhibits will tell the stories of that day and memorialize each of the nearly 3,000 people who died. There will also be displays telling the story of al-Qaida and the terrorist plotters -- although some family members of those who died, like Jim Riches, who lost his firefighter son Jimmy, think those should be limited to side displays in kiosks.

    "If you want to see their pictures, let them go into the kiosk and look at their picture," he said. "But I think you've made it more like a Hall of Fame for the terrorists, and that's the way I feel, by putting their pictures up there."

    Museum officials, who refused to be interviewed, reportedly have carefully considered how to present a history that might be traumatic for some visitors, particularly children. They have deleted images that are too graphic or that show an individual victim’s identity. The foundation reportedly plans to charge an admission fee of $25, although the memorial will remain free of charge.

    But it is a collection that will never be shown that has caused the fiercest controversy -- a refrigerated repository for 9,000 unidentified fragments of human bone and tissue, now held in the New York medical examiner's offices. It will be seven stories underground, and off-limits to all but family members of the victims and the medical examiner. Museum visitors will see only a vast wall bearing a quotation from the Roman poet Virgil: “No day shall erase you from the memory of time.”

    But Jim Riches and members of 16 other victims' families are suing. He said that only a few family members were consulted by the September 11 Memorial & Museum Foundation about their wishes. His group wants to poll all of the families on the issue. Riches says he thinks that most would choose to visit the unidentified remains at a tomb above ground, and not as part of the museum.

    "There are no museums in the whole country that put human remains in the museum," Riches says. "And you also would have to get the permission of the family members to do such a thing."

    Experts on the disposition of Native American bones agree, saying that control of human remains is for group members to decide. Such a group would include virtually every family that lost a loved one in the World Trade Center attacks because only 40 percent have received even fragments of their loved ones' remains.

    But other activists say the question was decided years ago in a consensus process that all the families were welcome to join.

    Charles G. Wolf, whose wife, Katherine, died in the attacks, said the families agreed that unidentified remains should be interred "at bedrock," between the footprints of the fallen Twin Towers. "What they're pushing for is to go against the agreements that we all agreed to back in 2003 and 2004," Wolf said.

    New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, chairman of the foundation that owns the Memorial & Museum, says the museum repository is needed. "One of the centerpieces of the museum, in terms of visibility and respect, is where you put the unidentified remains," he said. "It is not just in a small place, it is in a facility that also has what the medical examiner thinks will be necessary down the road as technology gets better."

    Norman Siegel, an attorney for the families who are suing, said that is unlikely. "No remains have been identified since 2009," he said.

    In late August, an atheists' group sued to stop the display of a steel beam cross that became a symbol for the recovery workers at Ground Zero. The lawsuit contends that the display is an improper government endorsement of religion. The foundation responded that it is a private, not governmental, organization, and that the cross will be displayed as a historical artifact, not as an object of veneration.

    As the disputes play out in court, officials say that the impasse remains between the museum foundation and the Port Authority, and that there is no projected date for the museum’s opening.

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    Speaking of courts, why isn't the most straightforward of the disputes - the money - in the hands of binding arbitration?

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    New York Times
    September 8, 2012

    Dispute on Costs Delays Opening of 9/11 Museum


    Visitors at the Sept. 11 memorial. Work on the museum has been at a standstill.

    A dispute between Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo over the $1 billion museum at ground zero has dragged on for so long that the museum will not open in time for the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks — or even for the next one.

    Aides to Mr. Bloomberg and Mr. Cuomo have so far been unable to resolve their differences over which government agencies will pay the operating costs of the museum, which is intended to document the terrorist attacks of 2001 and honor the nearly 3,000 victims. The two sides also remain at odds over who will have oversight of the museum and the surrounding memorial.

    The negotiations are further complicated because Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey must sign off on any agreement before it can take effect. Mr. Cuomo and Mr. Christie together control the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the World Trade Center site. Mr. Bloomberg is chairman of the Sept. 11 foundation, which controls the National September 11 Memorial and Museum, and oversees commemorative events at the site.

    With work on the museum at a standstill for nearly a year, fund-raising and donations have fallen, and exhibits are gathering dust in fabrication shops in Buffalo and Santa Fe, N.M., according to museum executives.

    The delay means that the museum may not open before construction on 1 World Trade Center, formerly known as the Freedom Tower, is finished in early 2014.

    Aides to Mr. Bloomberg and Mr. Cuomo said they hoped that the 11th anniversary, on Tuesday, might create pressure for a last-minute deal. Late last week, the two sides began circulating proposals to resolve the yearlong impasse.

    Still, earlier agreements have fallen apart.

    “It would be catastrophically sad if they can’t find a solution,” said Ira M. Millstein, a board member of the Sept. 11 foundation and a prominent commercial lawyer. “They really ought to sit down in a room and look at each other. It can’t be solved with e-mails.”

    Other members of the board, whose relatives died in the attacks, said they would hold a demonstration on Monday if the officials did not break the deadlock.

    Mr. Bloomberg and Mr. Cuomo tried to bridge their differences last month when they agreed to establish an advisory committee to address disputes over the memorial, the museum and access to the site. But then a new dispute erupted over how much money the foundation would contribute to the museum’s operating costs, and the plan for the advisory committee has not moved forward.

    Last week, in a break with custom, Governor Cuomo and Governor Christie did not attend the foundation’s annual fund-raising dinner at Cipriani Wall Street, where the comedian Stephen Colbert was the host.

    Port Authority officials bought a table for the event, but hesitated to attend because they were concerned about the reception they would receive from foundation executives, given the looming anniversary and the tensions over the negotiations, according to authority and foundation officials. Ultimately, at least two midlevel authority executives did go.

    The first hint of tensions occurred after the 10th anniversary commemoration, when reports surfaced that Mr. Cuomo and Mr. Christie were annoyed at Mr. Bloomberg and the foundation over restrictions on access to the memorial and the ceremony. The reports were later denied by aides to the two governors.

    The dispute entered a new stage in June with a struggle over who would control the overall memorial. The conflict over what many New Yorkers regard as a hallowed site carries political risks for the mayor and the governor.

    Mr. Bloomberg has raised tens of millions of dollars for the museum and has contributed $15 million of his own money, but he may leave office at the end of 2013 with a legacy project in disarray. And Mr. Cuomo may be blamed for the standstill as talk of political dysfunction and a failed museum dominates news media coverage of the 11th anniversary.

    The foundation, which has collected $450 million in private donations, estimates that it will take another year of construction work to complete the museum and two or three more months to install the exhibits and prepare for an opening.

    Asked to explain the reasons for the impasse, Mr. Bloomberg’s aides would say only that negotiations were continuing.

    “The delay is hugely disappointing to family members of victims and the many stakeholders who have worked hard to curate the museum,” said Julie Wood, a Bloomberg spokeswoman. “But we are confident that the finished product will be the definitive historical accounting of that terrible day.”

    Josh Vlasto, a spokesman for Mr. Cuomo, said, “They are working through complex financial and economic issues, but we are cautiously optimistic” about an agreement.

    The delay contrasts with advances on the rest of the site. The new signature skyscraper has reached its zenith at 104 floors, the mezzanine for the transportation hub is essentially complete, and the vehicle security center is nearing street level.

    Officials say 4.5 million people have visited the Sept. 11 memorial since it opened a year ago. (The memorial covers eight acres at street level, while the 100,000-square-foot museum is seven floors below ground.)

    The dispute over the museum represents a return to the political squabbling, delays and inaction that characterized the rebuilding of the 16-acre trade center site before 2008, when new leadership at the Port Authority forged an agreement on a construction plan.

    But it also reflects the extraordinary costs of nearly every project at ground zero, including the skyscraper at 1 World Trade Center and the transportation center.

    Under a 2006 agreement, the foundation was to raise $700 million to build the museum, including from private donations and state and federal money.

    The Port Authority was responsible for building it and paying for hundreds of millions of dollars in related expenses. The authority is also required to formally lease or transfer the parcel to the foundation.

    There has long been friction between the foundation and the authority over the rising costs of the project. The authority largely stopped construction after the 10th anniversary, arguing that the foundation owed it $150 million to $300 million.

    Cuomo aides contended that the full cost of the museum had ballooned to $1.3 billion. The foundation countered that the Port Authority owed it more than $100 million because of the authority’s failure to complete the museum in 2009, as originally promised.

    Subsequent negotiations between the mayor’s office and authority officials appointed by Mr. Cuomo reached what they thought was a tentative agreement in April 2012 in which the foundation agreed to pay the authority an additional $75 million and rent space at 1 World Trade Center.

    But then Mr. Cuomo sought assurances that the foundation had a plan to cover the museum’s $60 million operating budget, saying that he did not want the authority saddled with additional costs in the event of a shortfall.

    In recognition of the enormous public investment in the museum, the governor also sought some oversight of the memorial and the museum.

    Executives at the foundation viewed Mr. Cuomo’s moves as a slap at Mr. Bloomberg, who became chairman and chief fund-raiser for the foundation in 2006.

    Late last week, foundation board members said they were trying to step up pressure on Bloomberg and Cuomo officials to resolve the impasse.

    “People walk up to the doors of the museum, and the doors are locked,” said Christine A. Ferer, a board member whose husband, Neil D. Levin, the executive director of the Port Authority, died in the attack. “Locked inside is the full story of 9/11.”

    © 2012 The New York Times Company

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    With work on the museum at a standstill for nearly a year, fund-raising and donations have fallen, and exhibits are gathering dust in fabrication shops in Buffalo and Santa Fe, N.M., according to museum executives.
    Eleven years later. Shameful.

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    Seems Christie is as much a part of the standoff as Cuomo.

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    It's called the NATIONAL Sept 11 Memorial and Museum. The NPS runs the Flight 93 NATIONAL Memorial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stache View Post
    I'm glad they're not offering lessons on financial planning!
    How to get things done on time for Dummies

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    I wonder if this will be moved once the museum does open. Right now it's on 14th St. There is a video with the bottom link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariab View Post
    I wonder if this will be moved once the museum does open. Right now it's on 14th St. There is a video with the bottom link.
    I seriously doubt it.

    I wasn't aware this place was still open; I don't remember the details, but both the mayor and FDNY had issues with him.

    WNY also has a history with Gary Suson, who had registered as FDNYHonoraryChief.

    At one point I was PMed disturbing information about Suson - unrelated to the museum - that I cannot divulge.

    He had threatened to sue several WNY members, including me and Edward, who banned him.

    A WNY blast from the past

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    Geez that's some thread. If the FDNY has a problem with him I'm surprised that place is still there, too, and as long as Bloomberg is part of the 9/11 Memorial organization this guy will never be a part of it. It looks like he may have started out with honorable intentions but then wanted to take ownership of it, and I have a problem with that. No one person or group should own something like that.
    When you're on line for the memorial there is a small billboard with all the names listed who belong to the organization, and it seems like such a staggering amount of people to me, as if some people simply wanted their name attached.

    I read this a few years ago. It's an inside story of the official deconstruction of the site, and the almost countless issues that went along with it, including the disheartening spat between FDNY & NYPD that November. One of the issues he wrote about was some people's problem with FDNY's handling of civilian remains vs their own, that they treated their own with more care than they did with civilian's. This guy is a good writer and is unbiased - yet still manages to be careful and reverent - when bringing all these things to light. He also wrote an excellent book about modern day piracy at sea.

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    New York Times
    September 10, 2012

    Bloomberg, Cuomo Announce Deal Over Ground Zero Museum


    After nearly a year of discord and delay, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo reached an agreement on Monday to resume construction of the Sept. 11 museum at ground zero in Manhattan.

    In negotiations over the weekend, aides to Mr. Bloomberg and Mr. Cuomo resolved longstanding disputes over which government agencies would pay for the costs of the museum and which officials would oversee it. Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey then agreed to the arrangement.

    Mr. Christie and Mr. Cuomo share control over the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, while Mr. Bloomberg heads the Sept. 11 foundation, which oversees the national memorial and museum at the former World Trade Center site and the annual commemoration.

    “I’m very gratified that on the eve of this important anniversary we are able to announce an agreement that will ensure the completion of the 9/11 museum,” Mr. Bloomberg said in a statement Monday night. He added that the agreement ensured that construction “will be restarted very soon and will not stop until the museum is completed.”

    The tentative resolution involves additional cash payments from the Sept. 11 foundation for construction costs, closer coordination among the parties and the creation of an advisory committee to resolve disputes.

    The museum, dedicated to documenting the attack and honoring its victims, had been scheduled to open in a formal ceremony on the attack’s 11th anniversary on Tuesday, but construction work largely stopped after the 10th anniversary. Both sides say they are now hoping that the museum, which sits seven stories below street level, will open by the end of 2013, as Mayor Bloomberg’s term ends. Construction is expected to resume by the end of the month.

    The 100,000-square-foot museum will contain thousands of artifacts, audiovisual displays, profiles of the victims and photographs of the 19 hijackers.

    In a statement Monday night, Mr. Cuomo called the agreement a “milestone” in the rebuilding. “By ensuring that no additional public funds are spent to complete the memorial and the museum,” he said, “today’s agreement puts in place a critical and long overdue safeguard to finally protect toll payers and taxpayers from bearing further costs, and, at the same time, put the project on a path for completion.”

    Under the agreement, the foundation will share financial data with the Port Authority and provide $12 million more as needed for construction and as much as $1 million a year for 30 years from any operating surplus, beginning in 2018. It has already contributed $280 million in private donations and more than $330 million in state and federal money toward construction. It has also raised $170 million in private contributions for exhibits and operating expenses.

    In addition, the Port Authority will formally transfer ownership of the eight acres that contain the memorial and the museum to the foundation.

    The two sides agreed to work together to speed construction and to more closely coordinate events on the memorial plaza, although the foundation will retain control. Still, Monday’s agreement leaves plenty of room for future disputes, because the city and state must now agree on scheduling and other details. Over the last decade, conflicts between prominent officials have repeatedly broken out regarding ground zero.

    In fact, the dispute over the museum, which is about 75 percent complete, was a throwback to a time when the rebuilding of the trade center site was marked by political maneuvering, delays and inaction. Today, the site bustles with activity. The central skyscraper, 1 World Trade Center, formerly known as the Freedom Tower, has reached its full height and is expected to open early in 2014. Its developer, Larry Silverstein, is erecting two other towers; the Port Authority is building a transportation center.

    The tentative agreement was reached during a conference call among the chief negotiators on both sides: Scott Rechler of the Port Authority, and Larry Schwartz, speaking for Mr. Cuomo; and Joseph Daniels of the foundation and Howard Wolfson and Robert Steel, speaking for Mr. Bloomberg.

    © 2012 The New York Times Company

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    So, under this agreement, it appears that ownership and control of the plaza and museum have now been shifted from a public entity (PANYNJ) to a corporate entity (the September 11 Foundation).

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