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    Default it just looks like the BB is takin' a leak...time for it the waterfalls to go away.

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    they're better at night.

    ali r.

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    ^^^ I agree. I have a really great picture of the Brooklyn Bridge waterfall at night from a boat.

    I'll post it when I get back to Iowa...


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    July 25, 2008, 4:57 pm

    A Shady Vantage for Waterfall Watching

    By David W. Dunlap

    The drainpipes from the F.D.R. Drive have an almost humanoid form — like industrial-age caryatids. (Photo: David W. Dunlap/The New York Times)

    Elevated highways have few friends among city planners, and with good reason. The waterfronts of Boston and San Francisco improved immeasurably with the removal of the Central Artery and Embarcadero viaducts.

    But say this for the Franklin D. Roosevelt Drive: It does provide shade along the East River esplanade that is part of the Manhattan Waterfront Greenway.

    And when there are monumental waterfalls to be seen, under the Brooklyn Bridge and just north of the Manhattan Bridge, a little bit of shade on a summer morning is all a reporter needs to forget momentarily that he’s on assignment.

    Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

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    The bridge sprung a leak.

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    Wink One Practical Aspect... part of the Manhattan Bridge gets cleaned!!
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    Restaurant Owner Blaming Dying Plants On Waterfalls Exhibit

    August 05, 2008

    Many people have found the New York City Waterfalls art project pleasing to the eye, but it appears to be having a less pleasant affect on the trees at a Brooklyn café.

    Trees and plants at the River Café next to the Brooklyn Bridge have started turning brown even though it's still summer. The restaurant's owner says the saltwater spray from the nearby waterfall installation is causing the change, as saltwater interferes with a plant's photosynthesis process.

    The exhibit began at four East River sites in June and will run until late October.

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    Through the slats...
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    Hours Are Cut for ‘Waterfalls’

    Published: August 30, 2008

    The four waterfalls created by the artist Olafur Eliasson in the East River will have their hours of operation cut in half after complaints that the art installation was damaging waterfront plantings in Brooklyn.

    Beginning Sept. 8, the four falls, part of Mr. Eliasson’s “New York City Waterfalls” project, will operate about 50 hours a week instead of 101 hours, officials announced on Saturday.

    Critics said salty mist from the waterfalls has destroyed shrubs, trees and plants on the Brooklyn Promenade.

    The Brooklyn Heights Association had asked the city to dismantle the waterfalls after Labor Day instead of on Oct. 13 as scheduled. Messages left for the association on Saturday were not immediately returned.

    The installation’s new hours of operation will be 12:30 p.m. to 9 p.m. Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays, and 5:30 p.m. to 9 p.m. Mondays and Wednesdays.

    Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianac View Post
    The Brooklyn Heights Association had asked the city to dismantle the waterfalls after Labor Day instead of on Oct. 13 as scheduled.
    Reminder. The waterfalls are due to be turned off on Monday next. October 13th. 2008.

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    Default Waterfalls Exit, but With Unintended Impact

    Waterfalls Exit, but With Unintended Impact

    Published: October 12, 2008

    Olafur Eliasson, the Danish-Icelandic artist who created the four waterfall exhibits on the East River, has said that he wanted people looking at them to reconsider their relationship to the surroundings. Scott Stamford has been doing just that, though not in the way Mr. Eliasson intended.

    Michelle V. Agins/The New York Times
    Trees at the River Café in Brooklyn have lost their leaves.

    Salt mist from the waterfall exhibit is being blamed by the cafe, where a manager says she “can taste the salt.”

    Mr. Stamford is the manager of the River Café, a popular scenic restaurant on Water Street in Brooklyn, steps away from the waterfall installed under the Brooklyn Bridge. Whenever the wind blew in from the north, which is to say often, the restaurant’s workers, patrons and windows would get covered with a saltwater spray from the waterfall, Mr. Stamford said.

    “I consider it a major impact on our ability to make guests happy,” he said of the waterfall.

    The restaurant’s trees and plants also suffered damage from the saltwater, as a sign at the restaurant bluntly states. On a circular brick driveway in front of the restaurant, the trees are empty of leaves, as are the trees closest to the waterfall in the nearby garden. On the restaurant’s outdoor deck, many of the ferns, begonias and other plants had to be replaced. In recent months, a number of customers waiting for a table outside the restaurant were seen leaving after getting wet.

    “You can taste the salt,” said Nicole Zoppi, 25, the restaurant’s reservation manager. “At times, it’s like it’s raining. People will come out to get into their car and it’s covered with a thick film of salt.”

    The waterfalls exhibit — four giant water-pumping contraptions made of construction scaffolding that collectively churned 35,000 gallons of East River water each minute — draws to a close Monday after a 15-week run that began June 26.

    The waterfalls took a team of nearly 200 designers, engineers and construction experts to build, at a cost of $15.5 million. The four structures were the city’s biggest public art project since “The Gates” in 2005, when thousands of gates draped with saffron-colored fabric panels were positioned along Central Park’s pathways. Organized by the nonprofit Public Art Fund and the City of New York, the waterfalls have their own Web site,, and were the main attraction of special boat trips operated by Circle Line Downtown. They generated hundreds of homages on YouTube.

    Though they caused a great deal of gawking and picture-taking, the waterfalls also stirred a fair amount of controversy.

    Mr. Stamford, Ms. Zoppi and a number of Brooklyn residents said two waterfalls — the one under the Brooklyn Bridge and one near the Brooklyn Heights Promenade — wreaked havoc on trees and other plants at the restaurant and along the Promenade. The city’s oldest and largest neighborhood association, the Brooklyn Heights Association, sent soil samples to the Cornell Nutrient Analysis Laboratory at Cornell University.

    The results of some samples taken at the River Café and near the Promenade showed high levels of salt in the soil.

    “Except for a few of the evergreen holly bushes, everything within the range of the waterfall turned brown and lost leaves,” said Judy Stanton, executive director of the Brooklyn Heights Association. “It looked as if wintertime had come to the Promenade.”

    In response to complaints and based on a recommendation by the city’s parks department, the Public Art Fund cut the waterfalls’ operating hours in half beginning in September, to 49.5 hours per week from 101 hours per week. Crews were dispatched to hose down trees in affected areas with fresh water once or twice a day.

    City and Public Art Fund officials said hundreds of thousands of people viewed the exhibit, which they said was an artistic, cultural and economic success, despite the reduction in hours.

    The city’s Economic Development Corporation is preparing a report that will include an estimate of the number of spectators and the economic activity that the waterfalls created. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and other city officials had said that the exhibit was expected to generate $55 million in economic activity during its run. Jason Post, a spokesman for the mayor, said that anecdotal reports suggested that the exhibit met or exceeded those expectations, citing sold-out boat tours as one example.

    A spokeswoman for the Public Art Fund said that the daily watering improved the condition of the trees and decreased the salinity in the soil, which is also being tested by the parks department. “While the adverse impact of the mist from the waterfalls appears not to have been fully appreciated by any party involved in the review of the plans for the project, it was immediately addressed when the impact on the trees appeared,” the spokeswoman, Stacy Bolton said.

    On Sunday afternoon in Brooklyn, the structures received mixed reviews from onlookers. Some said they were beautiful and should become permanent exhibitions on the waterfront, while others said they looked like, well, scaffolding.

    Ben Corman, 21, a valet at the River Café, said that if he did not work so close to one, and go home smelling like the East River, he would probably like them. Stacy Pisone, 44, a restaurant owner at a playground near the waterfall under the Brooklyn Bridge, said she would be sad to see them go. “As soon as they went on today everybody went ‘Aah, look, the waterfalls are on,’ ” she said.

    But Gene Kezena, 67, a retired engineer who lives in Brooklyn Heights and was relaxing Sunday on the Promenade, described them as “kind of ridiculous.”

    “It was almost like a Coney Island sort of thing,” he said. “I looked at it and said, ‘It’s not exactly Niagara Falls.’ ”

    Ann Farmer contributed reporting.

    Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

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    10/21/2008 10:07 PM

    Waterfalls Art Installation A Financial Success

    The summer's Waterfalls arts project churned up some much needed cash for the city.

    The mayor says it floated an estimated $69 million into the area's economy, far exceeding initial projections.

    The public art work project involved the construction of four waterfalls -- one under the Brooklyn Bridge, one off Governors Island, another between Piers 4 and 5 in Brooklyn and one at Pier 35 in Manhattan.

    An estimated 1.4 million people came to the waterfront to see the exhibit from June 26 through October 13.

    Copyright © 2008 NY1 News. All rights reserved.

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    Lower Manhattan looks especially fine from that angle (and always has).

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