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    Sometimes, the best way to battle Corporate Anxiety Disorder is to give them publicity they may not want.

    And the issue is already in the courts, and there was a hearing recently...

    July 4, 2012

    Suit Seeks Plans for Closed Public Plaza as Owner’s Motives Are Questioned


    By COLIN MOYNIHAN

    For months, people walking past Chase Manhattan Plaza in Lower Manhattan have gazed upon an empty two-acre expanse surrounded by fences and patrolled by private security guards.

    Although the plaza, located a block from the New York Stock Exchange, has been open to the public for decades, tall accordion-style fencing anchored with sandbags was placed around the area in mid-September. The plaza’s owner, JPMorgan Chase, did not issue a statement about closing the site, but some wondered if the decision was prompted by the Occupy Wall Street protests. Organizers had announced plans to hold a meeting in the plaza on Sept. 17, on the first day of the movement, which eventually attracted worldwide attention.

    Since then, even as the Occupy protests have trailed off, the fences have remained, and have drawn the attention of critics.

    Over the past six months, supporters of open and accessible public space have accused the bank of keeping people out of the plaza without justification. After contractors obtained a permit to put up sturdier fences as part of a renovation plan, one man sued the New York City Department of Buildings over a refusal to disclose the plans. The suit also challenged an assertion by the city that the plans should remain secret because the plaza and the tower next to it are potential terrorism targets.

    The legal battle has added to a debate about whether a powerful institution that traces its roots to historic Lower Manhattan put up a fence as part of an effort to forestall criticism of the financial system, then pointed to security concerns to limit speech faulting its actions.

    Michael F. Fusco, a spokesman for JPMorgan Chase, declined to comment on any complaints or inquiries about the bank’s actions. He also declined to explain why the fencing was erected in September.

    Paula Z. Segal, the lawyer who drafted the lawsuit against the Buildings Department, said security guards at Chase Plaza had told her on several occasions that the fencing was meant to keep protesters from assembling there.

    At a recent hearing in State Supreme Court, Justice Paul Wooten suggested that the city should take another look at the plans and see what could be disclosed.

    Mark Taylor, a lawyer for Richard Nagan, who sued the Buildings Department, said that the judge had told the city he would not approve “blanket immunity” from freedom of information laws, and proposed that the city redact sensitive information from the plans.

    Mr. Nagan, a construction expediter and consultant, said the plans could show whether the bank was carrying out renovations or simply obtaining a series of permits while keeping the plaza off limits.


    “The Buildings Department said the only way the public could see the plans would be if the owner gave approval,” he said.

    In 1955, when the original plans for Chase Manhattan Plaza were announced, the city granted zoning changes to allow the project to proceed and agreed to permanently close part of Cedar Street to create an uninterrupted site, something that was rarely done to accommodate a private commercial development.

    The Landmarks Preservation Commission, in designating the site a landmark in 2009, cited the plaza at the base of the 813-foot glass-and-aluminum tower as “one of the project’s dramatic and distinct features.”

    From the earliest days of its planning, the plaza was described as a public space. During a dedication in 1961 to celebrate the tower’s opening, Chase’s president, David Rockefeller, said it had taken “imagination and a sense of citizenship to clear an open plaza on some of the city’s most valuable land and throw it open to the light of the sun — and the public.”

    Unlike nearby Zuccotti Park, where the Occupy protesters eventually camped for two months, Chase Plaza has no agreement with the city to stay open 24 hours a day. But Ms. Segal said that depriving people of the use of one of the most significant open areas in Lower Manhattan appeared to violate at least the spirit of landmark rules.

    “The general public should be concerned that there is a pre-emptive closing of a historically public space just because the bank that owns it has an inkling that people might want to gather there and talk about what the bank is doing,” she said. She said she began contacting the Buildings Department and the landmarks commission last winter to ask whether the fencing was authorized. City records show that the department did not issue any violations, and that inspectors noted in several reports that no construction fencing existed at the plaza at the time.

    The landmarks commission said the fencing did not require the agency’s permission because it was not physically attached to the plaza.

    In February, after an article about Ms. Segal’s inquiries appeared in The Village Voice, a contractor obtained a permit to do waterproofing work on the plaza, which the city first approved in 2010. Three days later, another contractor got a permit to surround the plaza with plywood and chain-link fencing. Soon after, Ms. Segal said, workers at the plaza pried up a few pieces of paving but most of the plaza appeared to be unchanged.

    Ms. Segal and Mr. Nagan asked to see the renovation plans, citing state freedom of information laws. But the Buildings Department denied their request, and said that sharing the plans “would endanger the life or safety” of the public.

    After a second denial, Ms. Segal and Mr. Nagan filed a lawsuit saying that the department was violating freedom-of-information laws by refusing to disclose the plans. The agency replied that Chase Manhattan Plaza was on a Police Department list of sensitive buildings that could be vulnerable to a terrorist attack.

    In an affidavit, a police lieutenant said the waterproofing plans contained detailed information about the plaza and the tower beside it and should be kept secret.

    On a recent afternoon, several workers in the financial district ate lunch near the sealed-off plaza. One of them, Wendy Smith, 47, from Prospect Heights, Brooklyn, said she remembered the original fencing going up in September.

    “I never hear any machinery back there,” she said. “I wonder what’s going on behind this fence.”

    © 2012 The New York Times Company
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCom View Post
    I feel your sentiment. As a kid, instead of hugging buildings, I liked to touch them, just to feel the texture, or what it's really like to be right there, and not just look at it. Back then I had a much less pragmatic, and much more mystical attitude towards urbanity. Interesting times.
    I guess I'll always be an animist and a mystic I don't just hug, I do lay on hands, feeling steel, stone, and glass under my fingers, feeling out the "presence" within those magnificent structures. There's a few buildings I left off my list earlier- My first night in NYC on my last visit, I got all three of the XYZ buildings and 30 Rock too. I sense a much nicer presence from the XYZ towers than most people do.

    On a purely pragmatic level, I think that the bank is abusing the law to keep their plaza fenced off like this. Shame on them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanita View Post
    I guess I'll always be an animist and a mystic I don't just hug, I do lay on hands, feeling steel, stone, and glass under my fingers, feeling out the "presence" within those magnificent structures. There's a few buildings I left off my list earlier- My first night in NYC on my last visit, I got all three of the XYZ buildings and 30 Rock too. I sense a much nicer presence from the XYZ towers than most people do.

    On a purely pragmatic level, I think that the bank is abusing the law to keep their plaza fenced off like this. Shame on them!
    The XYZ is a set of building that I still feel a very strong, mystical-type attraction to, and I see them in a much more positive light than many other people do. I know they are faulted in a ton of ways, from an urban standpoint, but somehow I just can't bring myself to feel negatively about them. I did my Bachelor's Thesis about integrating the XYZ into a network of vertical public spaces, making them into a connective element between Times Square, Rockefeller Center, and the Columbus Circle areas, all of which being centers of public vibrancy. I think that, of all people, you might be interested in that work. The document is 72 pages long, mostly graphic work, lemme know if you wanna get a PDF copy.

    Back on topic, and closer to your post content, how does the status of the Rockefeller Plaza compare to that of Chase Manhattan? Could they, technically, close off the Rockefeller Plaza a la Chase Manhattan? Speaking of the XYZ, the Rockefeller Group doesn't seem to have a problem with closing off their adjacent public spaces for indeterminate periods of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCom View Post
    Back on topic, and closer to your post content, how does the status of the Rockefeller Plaza compare to that of Chase Manhattan? Could they, technically, close off the Rockefeller Plaza a la Chase Manhattan?
    I believe Rockefeller Plaza is closed to pedestrian traffic one day a year to maintain its privacy.

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    LeCom, I'd love a copy of your piece, it sounds really cool.
    Yeah, I've heard that Rockefeller Center and Lever House close their plazas for one day a year, to maintain its status as private property. As for the XYZ buildings, last time I was there, I noticed that the sunken plaza of McGraw-Hill was closed off at night, but I didn't see anything as extreme as what Chase is doing downtown.

    On another note, two friends and I are cosplaying as avatars of the XYZ buildings at next year's local Sci-fi convention. I'm designing some kick-ass outfits for us, featuring long coats in the same color as the building facades, and some cool looking body armor. Those broad-shouldered skyscrapers look pretty tough, they would make good City Guardians. Since I'm the tallest, I'm gonna be Exxon

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    C'mon - reopen that public plaza!


















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    Quote Originally Posted by asg View Post
    *cough* um... right. I don't think I was even "desirable" when I WAS 25.

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    Chase Bank Officials Defend Continued Closure of Lower Manhattan Plaza

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    FINANCIAL DISTRICT — Chase Manhattan Plaza will remain closed until the spring, while JPMorgan Chase does a major waterproofing project, bank officials told angry residents Thursday night.

    Speaking publicly about the 700,000-square-foot plaza's closure for the first time this week, JPMorgan Chase officials denied that they shut down access to the open space in response to Occupy Wall Street, despite the fact that it happened a day before OWS protesters arrived in an attempt to move into the plaza last September.

    "It has nothing to do with that," Karen McGuinness, a vice president at JPMorgan Chase, told skeptical residents at Thursday night's Community Board 1 meeting.

    Downtown residents were upset to lose one of the largest open spaces in the heart of the heavily developed Financial District. Their frustration grew as months passed and the plaza at Liberty and Nassau streets remained closed, with no visible sign of JPMorgan Chase's promised construction taking place. A lawsuit seeking more information about the project was filed earlier this year.

    JPMorgan Chase officials said the plaza, which surrounds the bank's skyscraper at One Chase Manhattan Plaza, had to close after the bank found "extensive leaking" that posed immediate safety concerns. The bank has spent the past 10 months preparing to do the repair work, which has not yet begun, McGuinness said.

    Construction will include replacing all 37 drains on the plaza and caulking and waterproofing the stone pavers, said John Babieracki, a managing director at JPMorgan Chase. The bank will also replace many of the plaza's trees.
    The work could start as soon as this week and will finish sometime next spring, by May at the latest, Babieracki said.

    Once the construction is complete, the bank expects to reopen the plaza to the public, said Bill Viets, a managing director at JPMorgan Chase.
    "It is our intention to operate that plaza as it has traditionally been operated," Viets said.

    Unlike Zuccotti Park and other privately owned public spaces in Lower Manhattan, Chase Manhattan Plaza is not required by law to be open to the public — but many nearby residents said they thought of it as part of their backyard.

    David Colman, a Nassau Street resident for the past 15 years, said he walked his dog in the plaza daily and was so angry about its closure that he recently closed his accounts at Chase.
    "That plaza belongs to the community and the people in it and it deserves to be open," Colman told the JPMorgan Chase officials Thursday night.

    Several CB1 members questioned the bank's statement that the closure had nothing to do with Occupy Wall Street — especially since security guards at the plaza had told them the fences went up because of the protesters, not because of a waterproofing project.

    But the officials replied that they, like the community, want to see the plaza reopen as soon as possible.

    "We're as anxious as you are to get this work done," Babieracki said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    Speaking publicly about the 700,000-square-foot plaza's closure for the first time this week, JPMorgan Chase officials denied that they shut down access to the open space in response to Occupy Wall Street, despite the fact that it happened a day before OWS protesters arrived in an attempt to move into the plaza last September.

    "It has nothing to do with that," Karen McGuinness, a vice president at JPMorgan Chase, told skeptical residents at Thursday night's Community Board 1 meeting.

    JPMorgan Chase officials said the plaza, which surrounds the bank's skyscraper at One Chase Manhattan Plaza, had to close after the bank found "extensive leaking" that posed immediate safety concerns. The bank has spent the past 10 months preparing to do the repair work, which has not yet begun, McGuinness said.

    Construction will include replacing all 37 drains on the plaza and caulking and waterproofing the stone pavers, said John Babieracki, a managing director at JPMorgan Chase. The bank will also replace many of the plaza's trees.
    The work could start as soon as this week and will finish sometime next spring, by May at the latest, Babieracki said.
    Right. Shutdown a day before the OWS move. The plaza was there for decades yet extensive leaking happened to occur so quickly that it caused immediate safety concerns requiring prompt shutdown. How unfortunate. It must have been some severe leakage, as it took them ten months just to prepare for the repairs. 10 months to repair 37 drains and fix some caulk. It will be such a monumental undertaking that it will be finished by next spring or next May - give or take, another ten months.

    Of course, the story seems entirely plausible, yet I still have some questions.
    1) What were the weather conditions ten months ago that prompted such sudden and severe leakage that caused the immediate emergency closure? What were the rainfall levels?
    2) How did the leak issue manifest itself? Surely major problems in such a popular public area, located above a massive underground concourse, could not have gone unnoticed by the thousands of people that use these premises on a daily basis. Have there been any reports of damage and/or discomfort, whether official or anecdotal?
    3) Since the plaza was so severely neglected that its leakage concerns prompted a near-overnight closure, how was the issue dealt with during the past ten months? Have any emergency measures been enacted to protect the employees from sustained water damage?
    4) Why is a financial organization as esteemed as Chase unable to afford a contractor that would fix an emergency situation on a more timely schedule that one that provides 20 months for emergency repairs on 37 drains?
    5) What prompted replacement of the trees? Is this issue related to the abovementioned emergency concerns regarding plaza waterproofing?

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    At the end of August 2011 Hurricane Irene came through. Our building suffered leaks & damage we'd never seen before (possibly exacerbated by the crazy earthquake one week earlier, which really moved our building in odd ways). So it's not out of the question that those occurrences wreaked some havoc at Chase Plaza.

    Still, the denial about OWS seems like bluster.

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