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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    How big can they realistically build here on these three combined lots?
    1041 Sixth Avenue FAR as built is 8, Max FAR allowed is 15.
    It currently has 118,464 square feet but can support 222,120 square feet.

    1055 Sixth Avenue Far as built is 2.8, Max FAR allowed is 15.
    It currently has 7,390 square feet but can support 37,200 square feet.

    1057 Sixth Avenue Far as built is 4, Max FAR allowed is 15.
    It currently has 7,700 square feet but can support 28,875.


    So without any variances, exactions, transferred air rights, etc. the combined property can support 287,195 square feet as of right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    No doubt the Springs Mills Building just to the west (now landmarked) has lots of unused FAR / Air Rights. And being on the Avenue the allowance there would be for a good amount of available FAR. Put those together ...
    The Springs Mills Building has 57,517 square feet of unused airrights. Add that to the assemblage on 39th-40th facing 6th and you can build 344,712 square feet. The Springs Mills building is quite a nice building for 1962, funny I never even knew it existed.

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    Thanks, Stern.

    I owe you a cerveza for the valuable information.

    A residential building of about 350,000 sf on this small plot could easily be 600 feet tall.

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    And if they were to combine all those FARs and then plan a new one that is pulled back from the corner of Sixth / W 40 (so that it aligns to the existing recessed frontage of the Spring Mills on 40th) they could get the infamous "plaza bonus" and go even taller.

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    That site seems too narrow to pull back from the corner, doesn't it?

    Is it accurate that a 350,000 sf residential tower could easily be 600 feet if not taller?

    This is such a beautiful location. I hope that the owner makes the most of it.

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    I'm not saying that pulling it back from the corner is a great idea, but if you look at a close up on Google Map for 104 W 40th you'll see that the entryway there is actually a little recessed plaza -- and it abuts property line of the corner lot (1057 Sixth).

    You can sort of see it on "Street View" -- but there are trucks in the way of the Google Cam

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    Thanks for the information.

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    This corner seen from the northeast back in 1938, with the World's Tower Building (110 West 40th) at the right:


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    Lofter,

    Aren't both of the old gems to the left still standing?

    Were you at this site today? Are the small Ps O S on the north corner covered with sidewalk sheds yet?

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    Wasn't at the site today; staying inside all cozy. But I did pass by earlier this week (see below) ...

    Both of the wedding cake buildings on the south side of West 39th are still standing (go to Google Map and play around with the Street View feature). The one with the black vertical banding fronts onto Broadway. Nowadways the other one is pretty much hidden away. To the north of it across West 39th the Springs Mills Building went up (where the two wooden water tanks are seen in the old photo). And there's a banal Kaufman-like Courtyard by Marriott Times Square South hotel (by Nobutaka Ashihara -- this guy really needs to be admitted to the hack club) just to the west of that running between 39th <> 40th. Not to mention the Marriott Residence Inn, another pile by Ashihara, one block down on the SW corner of 39th at 1033 Sixth.

    The corner building at Sixth / 40th doesn't have scaffolding yet, but the one just to the south of it does.

    Here's how the corner looked earlier this week (a bit blurry ) -- taken purely for LL's edification and enjoyment ...

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    By the way, it seems that the taste-free Marriott Company shares equal guilt with Sam Chang in putting up / bankrolling / operating eye-deadening piles of unworthiness throughout our city.

    Look at the view-killing Marriott Marquis in the heart of Times Square. Plus the terrible Marriott Downtown (backing onto Washington opposite the new W), covered in cheap-looking orange-ish brick. Not to mention the thing in Changtown west of Eighth Avenue, plus assorted cookie-cutter Courtyards & Fairfields Inns sprouting up here and there.

    Notch it up, fellas!

    Send Mr. Marriott some love:

    Bill Marriott, Chairman & CEO of Marriott International
    Corporate Headquarters
    Marriott International
    10400 Fernwood Road
    Bethesda, Md. 20817
    Phone: 301.380.3000

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
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    Thanks, Lofter.

    Is that crappy building that housed the deli empty at least or is that crap deli still in it?

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    That Marriott at Bryant Park is one of the highest rated hotel in the city by users. I've also heard great things about the Marriott on 40th Street built by McSam and next door at the Sheraton Four Points they have a top floor bar with great views.


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    Maybe those are OK on the inside but theyr'e all hell to look at from the outside.

    LL: Deli is still there and operating.

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    Thanks, Lofter. Hopefully, that rat infested hell hole will close soon.

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