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    This will be a great addition to the beautiful UWS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    This is great news. This building looks beautiful. Gray's Papaya is really the only remaining eyesore in this otherwise beautiful area. Hopefully, it will be razed in the next cycle.

    Gray's Papaya's survived countless cycles on 72nd + bway and 86th + lex for good reason! It's an essential part of the neighborhood that's supported by the residents. Raze it, and you ruin the Upper West Side.

    15 CPW limestone only makes sense on the Upper West Side against a backdrop of Cesare Casella's Salumeria and Big Nick's Pizza. Lay off Gray's Papaya.

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    When I was young, I went to Gray's frequently. However, its "food" is utter crap and is very unhealthy. For this reason alone, the store should close.

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    I suppose every pizza slice joint in town should close as well, based on that ^ criteria. Not to mention any other number of grab-a-bite / grab-a-cup places found all over the place.

    Wipe the whole City with Sani-Wipes while you're at it.

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    The typical slice of pizza doesn't have nearly as much nitrates as one of those toxic hot dogs. That place is a health hazard. You can buy bananas and apples from any cart in Manhattan that are cheaper and better for you.

    I love beef, but Gray's is toxic crap, and the building is a POS too.

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    Buy the kosher dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79thstreet View Post
    Gray's Papaya's survived countless cycles on 72nd + bway and 86th + lex for good reason! It's an essential part of the neighborhood that's supported by the residents. Raze it, and you ruin the Upper West Side.
    LOL, yes, a falling-down hot-dog stand is clearly "an essential part of the neighborhood". And apparently hot dogs can only be sold and eaten from run-down shacks.

    And no, the residents generally don't eat there. It's mostly other folks coming in and out from the subway. This is a very upscale neighborhood nowadays, and residents tastes generally don't center to ultra-cheap dirty-water hot dogs.

    The Upper West Side will be a much better neighborhood once this shack is demolished and replaced with something that fits the UWS architectural character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    I suppose every pizza slice joint in town should close as well, based on that ^ criteria.
    Pizza is about a thousand times more healthy than a hot dog. Not even close to comparable. Pizza is actually quite nutritious.

    But yes, I agree that restaurants shouldn't be shut down based on health-related matters. My problem with Grey's is the building moreso than the business (though I would be happy if the business leaves too).

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    Although you won't find me eating them, Grey's alway's had a reverse-chic quality about them.

    Funny that such a place only for people coming of the subway holds such a dear spot in the hearts of many... why does it turn up in so many films?

    Would you explain it to us ASchwarz:

    "In the 1988 film Crossing Delancey, Izzy (Amy Irving) has her "birthday dinner"—a Gray's hot dog—in the restaurant, complete with a street singer belting out "Some Enchanted Evening".

    Michael J. Fox and Gabrielle Anwar enjoy Gray's Papaya hot dogs while chatting about the piano player on the street corner from the window of the restaurant in 1993's For Love or Money.

    Matthew Perry's character in the 1997 movie Fools Rush In makes mention of his preference for Gray's Papaya hot dogs, and his wife special-orders them to Nevada.

    Gray's Papaya is also one of many late-night food destinations of several characters in the 2008 romantic comedy film Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist.

    Gray's Papaya appeared in Sex and the City in the 2002 episode "Plus One is the Loneliest Number."

    In the episode "The Limo" of the sitcom How I Met Your Mother, Ted takes Robin to Gray's Papaya to ease her hunger on New Year's Eve.

    Gray's Papaya hot dogs are referenced at the beginning of an episode of Everwood titled "All the Lonely People"; they are referred to by main character Ephram as the best in the country.

    The 1980s/1990s New York hardcore/punk band Bugout Society has a song called "Bum Rush at Gray's Papaya" which recalls a fantasy about having one's hot dogs stolen by homeless people hanging around the restaurant.

    In the book series Fearless, main character Gaia Moore has a fetish for the hot dogs of Gray's Papaya.

    In William Gibson's 2007 novel, Spook Country, chapter 26 is dedicated to (and titled after) the Gray's Papaya, on 8th Avenue; the Recession Special is also mentioned as a meal of the characters'."

    ALSO:

    "Anthony Bourdain featured Gray's Papaya on his show in the Travel Channel called No Reservations."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray's_Papaya

    AND:

    Martha Stewart (no less) who dedicated one of her shows to hot dogs confessed that she goes out of her way to stop there.

    Not bad for "dirty water hot dogs".


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    The Grays Papaya Building is within the UWS Historic Distric and was deemed a "Contributing Structure".

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    How on earth is this POS regarded as contributing (to anything other than blight) when the stunning buildings at 200 West 72nd were razed?

    If what you're saying is accurate (and I have no reason to doubt you), it shows how f..cked up NY is.




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    Such "Contributing Structure" designations are made by LPC so that they can be included within a Historic District. While the corner building with the Gray's Papaya on the ground floor in itself is not a distinguished structure, in order to maintain some sort of cohesiveness within the District the entire corner needs "protection." Of the three low-rise buildings left on that SE corner at Broadway / West 72nd the other two (the 2-story Citibank deco building and the eclectic 4-story building just to the east of Gray's) are definitely more worthy of protection as individual structures. Yet, if the Gray's building site had been chopped out of the District simply because what exists there now is deemed unworthy then something totally out of whack could have risen there in the future (imagine the owner of that site buying up air rights from the two plots to the east and going tall and narrow and glassy).

    Remember that the opposite corner where 200 West 72nd has gone up was not within any HD thereby not protected (as the map above shows). So, given the limits of the law, there was no way to stop the old building(s) there from being taken down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by View Finder View Post
    The Grays Papaya Building is within the UWS Historic Distric and was deemed a "Contributing Structure".
    Do you have a link stating that the building is a Contributing Structure?

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    BTW:

    A "non-contributing structure" within a historic district means that the site itself has landmark protection, but not the building. In such a case, any new structure is subject to landmark approval.

    An example is the garage at the corner of Greenwich & Laight Sts in the Tribeca district.

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