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    Quote Originally Posted by kliq6 View Post
    ...can you honestly tell me you like that fact that strangers can just go in and rearrange, reword and do whatnot to your statements, including changing facts to fiction...
    Kliq, honey, after all this time, you still consider us "strangers"? My heart is breaking. I need to lie down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kliq6 View Post
    Strangers in terms of: I don't personally know you from Adam, so I have a hard time with people I don't know; particularly changing my words around. But in the end, that's a wrong way for me to put it. I don't want anyone, from my parents to my wife to my friends, being able to change what I say. My word is my truth to myself and it can't be edited.

    Plus, it has nothing to do with how long people have been around here. I've been on this site longer then most people, including some moderators, and I don't edit people's posts. I respect what each person says, even if I don't agree with it. That's what free speech is!

    It's simple to me. That's the forum's rules and I respect that, but it does not mean I have continue taking part in it.
    Edited by BrooklynRider

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    I agree that moderators should not bowdlerize posts. Total deletion is better.

    That a triple score word!!! Ablarc you win the WiredNewYork Scrabble award. Check you Private Messages daily for your prize.

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    All joking aside...

    The moderators here do communicate amongst themselves and discuss moderation or questionable activity. We have many different perspectives within the ranks and, as argumentative and heated as some public threads get, it happens behind the scenes too. The difference, in my opinion, is that we all are know that we must set the example here. It's hard for a moderator to get away with being a jerk and then admonish someone else for similar behavior. Civility, courtesy, and proper grammar should be a no-brainer on a forum that is both anonymous and has a full set of editing tools.

    The other thing I wanted to mention is in regards to deleting "spam", "porn", "advertising", etc. Until I became a Moderator I had no appreciation for the amount of crap and spam that flows threw this site. On this site, it is removed almost immediately AND Edward and some of the moderators make the extra effort of researching IP addresses to assure those posters cannot come back. There is only one we reason it is being done: to make this site a pleasant and high quiality forum for the members.

    I especially appreciate that a discussion thread like this can roll along uninterrupted and open to everyone. I think everyone understands what Kliq is saying. However, I think many other people posting in this thread can attest to the fact that the moderators are available and very responsive to PM's about moderating issue or problems in threads.

    The Forum Veterans are valued here and given great leaway, in my opinion. We have all developed WNY personas and those personalities color the threas and drive the discussions. For instance, Ninjahedge is probably getting ready to respond to this post line by line with a contrary argument to every point. Do I care? NO! I have the power to go in and edit anything he writes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynRider View Post
    All joking aside...

    The moderators here do communicate amongst themselves and discuss moderation or questionable activity. We have many different perspectives within the ranks and, as argumentative and heated as some public threads get, it happens behind the scenes too. The difference, in my opinion, is that we all are know that we must set the example here. It's hard for a moderator to get away with being a jerk and then admonish someone else for similar behavior. Civility, courtesy, and proper grammar should be a no-brainer on a forum that is both anonymous and has a full set of editing tools.

    The other thing I wanted to mention is in regards to deleting "spam", "porn", "advertising", etc. Until I became a Moderator I had no appreciation for the amount of crap and spam that flows threw through this site. On this site, it is removed almost immediately AND Edward and some of the moderators make the extra effort of researching IP addresses to assure ensure those posters cannot come back. There is only one we reason it is being done: to make this site a pleasant and high quiality forum for the members.

    I especially appreciate that a discussion thread like this can roll along uninterrupted and open to everyone. I think everyone understands what Kliq is saying. However, I think many other people posting in this thread can attest to the fact that the moderators are available and very responsive to PM's about moderating issue or problems in threads.

    The Forum Veterans are valued here and given great leaway leeway, in my opinion. We have all developed WNY personas and those personalities color the threads and drive the discussions. For instance, Ninjahedge is probably getting ready to respond to this post line by line with a contrary argument to every point. Do I care? NO!
    Well, in the spirit of things following post #77, there you go...red for original word/s (delete), blue for suggested correction...we need a strikethrough option in the editing tools

    I have the power to go in and edit anything he writes.
    And this just proves that we all can to a certain extent, except that it's more transparent . Would we really need or want to most of the time? Probably and hopefully not.

    IMO, on the subject of expletives or derogatory terms, I don't think they should be disallowed, disguised (e.g. s**t) or edited out unless they constitute a deliberate personal attack on another forum member. I think most of us wouldn't abuse the privilege by using such words to excess.

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    Default Don't kid yourself.

    We had a forum member post a photo of poop in order to illustrate a point.

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    Argh! Merry, do I get extra credit for posting at 2:00AM and making any sense at all?

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    Default Midtownguy left???

    Whats this about midtownguy leaving???

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    The current situation is he has decided to stop posting. I'm hoping he will return at some point as he was one of our best forum members imo.

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    Just saw the thread in question... <sigh> sometimes I wish that this site didn't have a chit-chat/news area. Then the only angry arguments we would have would be on more germane topics - architectural preferences, etc

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    Was that tongue-in-cheek?

    The fiercest arguments occur in the architecture threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    Was that tongue-in-cheek?

    The fiercest arguments occur in the architecture threads.
    Entirely. But at least then its about SOMETHING relevant to the site. Certainly more substantive. Leaving about this seems... I lack the proper words today... tragic and pointless? Like leaving a cooking forum over a sports argument?

    I find most political threads are more about gut and emotion than actual policy - making this seem even worse. In the end, it was pretty much started over nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stache View Post

    We had a forum member post a photo of poop in order to illustrate a point.
    You are mistaken. That was the design for a new Gene Kaufman building.

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    Well, the site is about New York, not specifically architecture. And nothing has more impact on New York (or any city) than politics.

    The arguments that usually explode in Politics are between veterans and newcomers. In Architecture, it seems to be more between veterans. Contrary newcomers are more easily dismissed. I don't know why that is.

    The thread(s) in question were indeed blown up out of proportion, but that stuff is generic to the entire forum.

    There's a proto-argument developing in Architecture involving the word moron. I hope the combatants have the good sense to let it drop.

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    LOL lofter #88!

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