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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynRider View Post
    All joking aside...

    The moderators here do communicate amongst themselves and discuss moderation or questionable activity. We have many different perspectives within the ranks and, as argumentative and heated as some public threads get, it happens behind the scenes too. The difference, in my opinion, is that we all are know that we must set the example here. It's hard for a moderator to get away with being a jerk and then admonish someone else for similar behavior. Civility, courtesy, and proper grammar should be a no-brainer on a forum that is both anonymous and has a full set of editing tools.
    That is good. The thing is, people forget or are unaware of what they never see......

    I am not saying you should SHOW us, but sometimes "we" forget this.

    The other thing I wanted to mention is in regards to deleting "spam", "porn", "advertising", etc. Until I became a Moderator I had no appreciation for the amount of crap and spam that flows threw this site. On this site, it is removed almost immediately AND Edward and some of the moderators make the extra effort of researching IP addresses to assure those posters cannot come back. There is only one we reason it is being done: to make this site a pleasant and high quiality forum for the members.
    The lack of both that AND commercial endorsements all over make this one of the sites I am almost not afraid to be seen surfing at work!!!


    Almost....

    I especially appreciate that a discussion thread like this can roll along uninterrupted and open to everyone. I think everyone understands what Kliq is saying. However, I think many other people posting in this thread can attest to the fact that the moderators are available and very responsive to PM's about moderating issue or problems in threads.
    Yep.

    The Forum Veterans are valued here and given great leaway, in my opinion. We have all developed WNY personas and those personalities color the threas and drive the discussions. For instance, Ninjahedge is probably getting ready to respond to this post line by line with a contrary argument to every point. Do I care? NO! I have the power to go in and edit anything he writes.
    You know, I would not have done it if you had not said anything!!!

    (I just could not resist after that!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    You are mistaken. That was the design for a new Gene Kaufman building.
    I thought it was inflatable art...

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    Can't say I'm a fan of the censorship here either, having received a warning / infraction for saying sh.tty in a context, but hey, it's a private forum and they're free to set whatever rules they want.

    I guess it's just my very liberal Europeanism that finds the over-sensitivity "over here" kinda hard to adjust to...

    How is it unethical if an exsiting Rule of the Forum is that language judged detrimental to the Forum may be edited (i.e.: changed or removed)?
    Well, editing a post that is presented as written by someone else raises questions both in ethical and legal aspects, even on a forum, it's a rather unfortunate practice. It would in all respects be better to delete the offensive post.

    As for the second discussion about freedom of speech in this forum, I reject the opinions expressed in post #69. When everybody yells, no one can speak.
    Expecting freedom of speech on a private forum (or hell, just in public on the streets for that matter) isn't realistic, nor would it be a good thing. The fact that moderators keep the forums clean and organized is a great thing, and I know very well that it isn't a very fun activity either, so props for the work in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynRider View Post
    Argh! Merry, do I get extra credit for posting at 2:00AM and making any sense at all?
    BR, your posts are always of the highest quality, no matter when you write them, and they always make perfect sense . Four gold stars and an elephant stamp for #77 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjahedge View Post
    But if someone like GT comes in and starts calling a mod a fascist idiot for deleting one of his hateful OT posts...
    Discuss.....
    Ninja, give me some credit.

    Hateful? No. Shaking my virtual fist against the Injustice of Lost Luggage for Those Who See New York as Their Bargain Bin in the Most High Airport in the Centre of the Universe? Maybe....

    A sense of humor is always a good thing.

    If there's a thread about a potential VP being a MILF, which clearly contains a vulgarism, then no expletive should be prohibited. But if thats the worst thing on the forum, then its not much to worry about.

    A long established contributor like you know who leaving, however, makes me teary.

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    Actually GT, I did give you credit. I took the chance and hit "view post". I fugured it was safe on a post that had nothing to do with England!

    As for you-know-who, you can say MTG if you want.

    I think he might come back eventually, but guys like that you have to let cool off for a good long while first. This board is not like most others when it comes to rivalry. One board I got so fed up with I left years ago and have not really been tempted to go back.

    I was tempted 6 months or so after I left though. the only thing keeping me away was the real lack of any real substance AND my bad memories.

    I think 6 months may make MTG itch enough to come back. There IS stuff he is missing by not being here. More than just conversation and the like, and I hope he remembers that!

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    ^
    You could have made your point without naming anyone.

    Is it something in the ether lately, an excess of negative ions?

    Has Palin made everyone horny, even the gay people?

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    As a matter of transparancy and disclosure, I should let it be known that I do occasionally change thread titles to more clearly identify buildings by adding addresses (for those not necessarily familr with buildings by name). I also change titles to help poster get information they need.

    For example, I changed alucobond+glass+steel bldgs NY to Alucobond, Glass, and Steel Buildings in NYC - Can you help me find buildings?

    Considering that the thread posted a question, this seemed a title more likely to get the guy what he wants.

    In this case, I changed a poster's words, but is it anything objectionable?

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    Not really, no

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
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    You could have made your point without naming anyone.

    Is it something in the ether lately, an excess of negative ions?

    Has Palin made everyone horny, even the gay people?
    I know, but when everyone knows the name, it is no use dancing around the elephant in the room and denying not only its presence, but its lack of taste in evening wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjahedge View Post
    I know, but when everyone knows the name
    So now you speak for everyone?

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    Without being rude, I find the debates here somewhat restrictive.

    If you want to see some intelligent discussions, moderates but with excellent well thought out posts, you simply cannot go past the Guardian Unlimited "Comment is Free".

    Yes, its an English paper.

    Some comments are removed, and unless you have read them before that happens, you have no idea what they were.

    Overall, Comment is Free has a level of debate that is up there with high level academic discussions. Hats off to the contributors.

    We should do the same here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    So now you speak for everyone?
    No.

    Do you?

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    No, but when you insult someone on the open forum, the moderators have to get involved, and speak for the forum community.

    I'd just as soon stay out of it, but I can't. You have the choice. You're not required to comment on everything, so shut up once in a while.

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    Well since you asked so nicely.



    And wow, I guess someone who I won't mention here because that would hurt his/her sensibilities is giving you PM flak.

    What a load.

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