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    Surprised to see the forgotten Borough forgotten even more. Developments does take place here too

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    Updated On 11/06/08 at 02:32PM

    New SI land use study team named

    Staten Island's North Shore

    Parsons Brinckerhoff, commonly called PB Americas, will head a team of consultants in charge of evaluating and planning land use and transportation on Staten Island's North Shore, the New York City Economic Development Commission and the Department of City Planning announced today. The area being studied stretches six miles along the Staten Island shoreline, including the neighborhoods of Mariner's Harbor, Arlington, Port Richmond, Elm Park and West Brighton. The other consultants on the project are Basile Baumann Prost Cole & Associates, D.I.R.T. Studio, Green Shield Ecology, Zetlin Strategic Communications and Historical Perspectives. The team will also hold public meetings and workshops. TRD

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    There are Staten Island threads here. They've just been fragmented into different regions/neighborhoods instead of one all encompassing thread like this one you've started.

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    Major projects still on target, but Staten Island commuters may feel budget sting

    by Staten Island Advance Tuesday November 18, 2008, 7:10 PM

    Advance file photoPassengers wait to board a bus on Narrows Road South at Fingerboard Road.

    Despite the MTA's looming $1.2 billion budget deficit, Staten Island's Charleston Bus Annex is still set to open as scheduled by the end of next year. But there may be fewer buses rolling in and out of the new facility, as the agency prepares to unveil a list of proposed service cuts this week.

    Similarly, the long-awaited South Ferry subway station in Lower Manhattan is on track to open around New Year's, but if service cuts are implemented, fewer No. 1 trains could be pulling into and out of the new station.

    Gearing up for Thursday's budget meeting at the agency's Manhattan headquarters, the MTA is keeping mum on which specific bus and subway lines could end up on the chopping block or scaled back to cut costs, but the pain is sure to be spread around the five boroughs.

    Among the casualties rumored to strike Staten Island commuters, the agency is expected to announce it's scrapping a plan to take over operation of the X23 and X24 from Atlantic Express once the new depot is opened.

    Routes with low ridership numbers, or that run through areas that offer other transit options, could be targeted for cutbacks.

    -- Reported by Maura Yates

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    New York Magazine

    Wall-E Park
    On giant piles of trash left by a generation of New Yorkers, landscape architect James Corner is building a park that has the power to change the way we see the past and the future of the city.

    By Robert Sullivan Published Nov 23, 2008

    The Fresh Kills landfill, in all its putrid glory, 1990. (Photo: Stephen Ferry/Getty Images)

    Let’s start at the end of one story, the story of the dump, with the view from way up on top of it.

    Let’s start at the peak of what was once a steaming, stinking, seagull-infested mountain of trash, a peak that is now green, or greenish, or maybe more like a green-hued brown, the tall grasses having been recently mown by the sanitation workers still operating at Fresh Kills, on the western shore of Staten Island. Today the sun dries the once slime-covered slopes, as a few hawks circle in big, slow swoops and a jet makes a lazy approach to Newark, just across the Arthur Kill. The sky, when viewed from atop a twenty-story heap of slowly decomposing garbage—the so-called South Mound, a Tribeca-size drumlin surrounded by other trash mounds, some as long as a mile—is the kind of big blue that you expect to see somewhere else, like the middle of Missouri. It’s a great wide-open bowl, fringed with green hills (some real, some garbage-filled) that are some of the highest points on the Atlantic seaboard south of Maine. Meanwhile, at your feet, hook-shaped white plastic tubes vent methane, the gas that builds up naturally in a landfill, a by-product of refuse being slowly digested by underground bacteria. The hissing of landfill gas is soft and gentle, like the sound of a far-off mountain stream or the stove left on in your apartment.

    But as you look a little longer, it’s definitely not a Missouri view, and the unmistakable landmarks come into focus: a tower on the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge, a span of the Outerbridge Crossing, and, on Coney Island, the very top of the parachute jump. In the foreground, trucks enter the landfill, climbing the mounds and dumping clean soil over not-so-clean soil.

    It’s all part of a radical plan to turn Fresh Kills landfill into Fresh Kills Park, with mountain bikers and kayakers and ballplayers sharing 2,315 acres of open space with restored maritime forests, with chestnut trees dotting dry prairies, with new or revived sweet-gum swamps, maybe a fox scooting through persimmon copses or a deer through a new birch thicket.

    The composer of this massive reclamation project is James Corner, the landscape architect best known in New York as the designer of the High Line. When that abandoned elevated railway turned inner-city park opens its first section this winter, its industrially influenced meadows, interstitial urban prairies, and sundecks will bring Corner’s firm, Field Operations, a new round of international attention. But as celebrated as the High Line will probably be, it is Field Operations’ other New York park—the one that’s bigger than lower Manhattan, and currently about the height of Mexico’s Great Pyramid of Cholula—that may change people’s ideas of what a park is all about.

    In the late 1840s, Frederick Law Olmsted had an experimental farm on Staten Island, but by the time he and Calvert Vaux designed Central Park, he was less a farmer than an artist. The environment they created looked like a landscape painting into which New Yorkers would stroll and recreate, like Mary Poppins jumping into the sidewalk sketches by Bert the chimney sweep. The immigrant shantytowns and African-American villages that sat in the swampy land were all cleared away, and Olmsted built hills and streams by dragging in dirt and blasting outcroppings with more gunpowder than had been used at the Battle of Gettysburg. Nature wasn’t natural in today’s locavore, native-plant sense; it was a collection of natures, pastoral and picturesque, local but mostly exotic, with birds from Europe and trees from China. The bushes in the Ramble, designed with the Adirondacks in mind, were chosen for their shade of green, as painterly effects. The medieval castle was placed on a hilltop as a reference to Europe, as well as for fun. Central Park was Platonic in theory and Barnumesque in practice. “It was designed as a natural Disneyland,” says New York City Parks commissioner Adrian Benepe.

    This idea of a park—a green, pastoral place to sport and play—hasn’t evolved much since Central Park was finished. Olmsted took his success to Brooklyn (at the more ambitious Prospect Park) and around the nation, working romantic landscape design into parks and greenbelts in Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, and Montreal. Even Robert Moses, the most powerful Parks commissioner in the history of Parks commissioners, played along the Olmsted lines—a little nature here, a little recreation there, all of it looking very park, and not much like the land that was there before (Jones Beach, for instance, had been a barrier island). But now Corner is among the handful of landscape designers who are taking the idea of an urban park into un-parklike territory.

    Copyright © 2008, New York Media LLC. All Rights Reserved.

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    Staten Island hoteliers, developers purchase 2 Teleport buildings

    by Staten Island Advance Wednesday December 03, 2008, 4:17 PM

    Advance file photoTwo vacant buildings at the Teleport have been purchased by Richard and Lois Nicotra.

    Staten Island's long-struggling Teleport got a jolt of new blood today with the purchase of two vacant buildings by hoteliers and developers Lois and Richard Nicotra, who pledged to rejuvenate the once-bustling business hub.

    The Nicotras purchased the buildings, formerly known as Teleport I and II, for $25 million from Murray Construction and Silverstein Properties. Key components of a 110-acre campus, the buildings have been vacant since 2002 when AT&T, the Teleport's largest tenant, left.

    The Nicotras said they plan a $10 million to $15 million facelift of the three-story structures, which will be dubbed Corporate Commons I and II.

    They contain almost 300,000 square feet of office space.

    The couple intends to direct 25 percent of profits from the Corporate Commons to the newly-formed Lois and Richard Nicotra Foundation. The foundation will help Nicotra Group employees' children pay for college and also will support a variety of not-for-profit institutions, primarily on Staten Island.

    "We're going to try to fill the buildings with Class A office tenants," said Richard Nicotra. "We're going to look at all the possibilities out there. We want the right tenants to enhance the location and bring these buildings back to their original glory."

    Nicotra said he hasn't signed any tenants yet, but has some promising leads. He said he would reach out to the private sector as well as to the city.

    "Staten Island is the only borough that doesn't have any city agency headquartered here," said Nicotra.

    At its peak, the Teleport employed 3,000 people. Between 300 and 400 work there now.

    The current vacancy rate at the Teleport campus, which includes other buildings, is 50 percent.

    -- Reported by Frank Donnelly

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    Richmond County Country Club could save Pouch Camp

    By Karen O'Shea

    January 04, 2010

    One scenario to save Pouch Camp has the Richmond County Country Club
    selling its Flagg Place clubhouse to a builder who would construct homes on
    the site. The club would then build a new facility at its golf course on Todt
    Hill Road and receive state land near Pouch Camp to construct two new
    golf holes.

    STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- Discussions to save Pouch Camp in the Greenbelt are under way and involve surprising potential saviors: A luxury home builder and the Richmond County Country Club; and possibly the New York Container Terminal.

    In an attempt to prevent the Greater New York Councils of Boy Scouts from selling off the 120-acre camp to a private developer, the two separate fund-raising possibilities that are emerging would allow other commercial or residential development to take place.

    The first scenario involves the Richmond County Country Club selling its aging Flagg Place clubhouse and catering facility to a builder who would construct homes on the nine-acre site. The club would then use money to build a new facility nearby at its golf course on Todt Hill Road.

    The golf course backs up to Pouch Camp, which would benefit financially in the deal.

    A few club board members recently made a presentation to Assemblyman Michael Cusick (D-Mid-Island) and state Sen. Andrew Lanza (R-Staten Island).

    Cusick would only say that the proposal involves the potential expansion of a smaller clubhouse on the golf course, property that is owned by the state and leased by the club, and a potential sale of the current clubhouse on Flagg Place. Sources have said a home builder is interested in buying the main clubhouse site.

    Such a deal would free up the club to expand at the golf course, where the smaller clubhouse is located, while potentially raising up to $10 million to buy a portion of adjacent Pouch Camp for preservation. The country club has proposed taking a wooded, state-owned slice of land located between the golf course and the back of Pouch Camp to create two new holes to replace ones that would be lost to construction of a new catering hall on the links.

    “There has been no decision made on this proposal or any other proposal. We were asked to look at it and we are looking it,” Cusick noted. “The goal here is, ultimately, to save Pouch Camp and to keep it as pristine open space.... We have to listen and entertain any proposal that comes across our desk.”

    With the state facing a potential $9 billion budget deficit this year and government unlikely to come up with the cash needed to buy Pouch Camp — by some estimates as much as $30 million — most agree that several creative solutions are needed to preserve the popular Boy Scout camp and its lake.

    Jim Devine, president and chief executive of New York Container Terminal and a member of the board of directors for the Greater New York Council of Boy Scouts, said he was recently approached about the idea of putting up money for a conservation easement for Pouch Camp in exchange for getting some of the state regulatory approvals needed to expand the container port.

    Devine wants to build a fourth ship berth next to the existing terminal, in an industrial area marked by wetlands. In exchange for building in a portion of Arlington Marsh, the terminal will likely have to clean and improve a wetland or environmentally sensitive area elsewhere.

    Devine said some have suggested the mediation take place at Pouch. New York Container Terminal would put up money for the purchase of part of Pouch Camp and its freshwater wetlands. He declined to say who had floated the idea, but he likes it.

    “We would definitely be amenable to that and view it as a win-win if the various regulatory authorities allow it to happen,” said Devine.

    But generating money for preservation of Pouch Camp through the sale of the Richmond County Country Club facility on Flagg Place could be more difficult.

    The club will need approval from members for the plan, and an OK from the state to build a new catering facility on the nearby golf course.

    In the late 1980s, the country club sold the golf course to the state for $4 million to raise cash in the face of rising real estate taxes. The course was preserved and the club was allowed to lease back the links each year for $1.

    As part of the 99-year-lease, the club also was permitted to continue operating the course privately.

    Sources familiar with the discussions say proceeds from a sale of the Flagg Place clubhouse would help the club deal again with rising real estate taxes on that property.

    “I think having more options are better than having fewer options,” Lanza said of the club’s proposal and its impact on Pouch, which he plans to run by other officials.

    “Our number one land-use priority this year is to save Pouch Camp,” he added.

    The country club president and club member and builder Tom Costa pitched the proposal. It’s unclear if Costa, who built homes at the former Camp St. Edward in Pleasant Plains, would be involved with the development.

    Costa and the club president did not return phone calls from the Advance seeking comment. Bill Russo, chairman of the board’s legal committee, said he knew nothing about the discussions.

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    Chained to Staten Island

    New Springville wins retail title with 188 chain stores

    By Catherine Curan

    New Yorkers in a shopping mood may think of Staten Island as a blip on the road to the tax-free bargains in New Jersey's malls, but they're overlooking the borough's status as the city's chain-store champ.

    The New Springville neighborhood in zip code 10314 in Staten Island won this title with an eye-popping 188 chain stores in 2009. That's 17 percent more than the nearest competitor, the 10001 zip code in Midtown, according to a retail report by the Center for an Urban Future.

    Chain stores are clustering in the 10314 zip code because it's an enormous territory that's home to the 1.274 million-square-foot Staten Island Mall at 2655 Richmond Avenue. The mall itself lists 189 stores -- most of which are chains -- on its roster.

    The list includes working woman's clothier Ann Taylor, trendy teen label American Eagle Outfitters, and department store stalwarts JCPenney and Sears. The mall stores form the epicenter of a retail network that includes plenty of smaller strip centers in the 10314 zip code. All are seeking to ring up sales from Staten Island's half a million residents, who boast an average annual household income of $80,970.

    With an area that's more than 18 times larger than Midtown's 10001, the 10314 zip code also has enough room for the parking big chain operators like. The mall alone boasts 7,200 parking spaces.

    "It's a different market -- you don't find a shopping center with 1,000 parking spaces [in the other boroughs]," said Sean Kelly, associate director of investment sales at CPEX Real Estate, and a Staten Island native.

    Even more chain-store deals are in the works for 10314, which has more than triple the amount of chains of any other zip code on the island.

    A deal is said to be on tap at a former outpost of bankrupt chain Linens 'n Things, also on Richmond Avenue. Smaller transactions are percolating, too, as are new construction deals.

    "It's been one of the fastest-growing counties in the entire state, and is likely to continue to grow," said Jonathan Bowles, director of the Center for an Urban Future. The center set out to compile the first comprehensive list of New York's national retailers two years ago to provide a statistical context to the debate about national chains squeezing out mom-and-pops. The list is now an annual project, the most recent study said.

    The three-year-old, 400,000-square-foot Bricktown Centre in the 10309 zip code at the south end of the island -- anchored by Target and Home Depot -- is challenging the chain-store concentration in 10314. But the lingering recession also continues to cast a shadow over the prospects for more chain stores on Staten Island. The weak economy prompted a spike in vacancies at the 12-year-old Expressway Plaza at 1441 Richmond Avenue, just north of the mall and also in the 10314 zip code.

    Still, Staten Island's demographics and suburban-style retail spaces are attracting chains this spring. Broker Michael Prendamano of Casandra Properties is negotiating for a national burger joint to open its first Staten Island outpost in Expressway Plaza. The deal calls for a new, freestanding 8,500-square-foot drive-through restaurant. The asking rent is $40 per square foot.

    Likewise, Howard Seidenfeld, a Staten Island retail expert and manager at Global Realty Services, is clinching another Staten Island first by bringing a national chain that doesn't yet have a presence in the borough to the roughly 8,000-square-foot former Ethan Allen space on Richmond Avenue. The asking rent there is $35 a square foot. He declined to name the new store.

    Even with all the chains, residents are still clamoring for luxury in their retail. "While Staten Island has a number of chain and big box retailers, I have heard time and again in talking to Staten Islanders, 'Why is it we don't have Brooks Brothers or Nordstrom, and other high-end retailers?'" Bowles said.

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    Garbage Mountains Slowly Morph Into $160 Million New York Park

    By James S. Russell

    The Bayonne Bridge looms in the distance in this view from the future Freshkills Park in Staten Island, New York. Construction has just begun on the first improvements that will transform one of America's largest landfills into a 2,200-acre park of pastoral, meadow-covered mounds. Photographer: James S. Russell/Bloomberg

    View looking north toward Manhattan skyline from the future Freshkills Park on Staten Island, New York. The park will be a 30-year-long transformation of four giant garbage mounds into a 2,200-acre park, laced with streams and tidal wetlands. The master plan landscape architect is Field Operations, of New York. Photographer: James S. Russell/Bloomberg

    A rendering of the 2,200 acres of Freshkills Park in New York City. Vast garbage mounds have been carefully sealed to keep pollutants from leaking. Source: City of New York Department of Parks via Bloomberg

    A rendering of the 2,200 acres of Freshkills Park in New York City.

    Eloise Hirsh turns her well-worn Jeep off the highway onto a rutted road and past a plant that scrubs goo piped from decaying trash.

    We’re in Staten Island’s Fresh Kills landfill, one of the largest garbage dumps in the U.S. and a blight to the eyes and nose for more than half a century -- and many years from now perhaps one of the nation’s greatest and strangest city parks.

    Hirsh, the park’s administrator, says it will be almost three times the size of Central Park.
    Construction is beginning to turn four mounds of trash that rise as high as 225 feet and hold 150 million tons of trash into the 2,200-acre Freshkills Park. The mounds need to settle, a slow process, and then be capped with more than 2 feet of soil. Though a small part will open in 2011, the completion of the park, part of the New York City Department of Parks & Recreation, may be 30 years away.

    Giant dump trucks rumble across an inlet at what will become The Confluence, with restaurants, picnic piers, sports fields, a kayak launch and floating barges turned to gardens. James Corner Field Operations, the New York-based master plan landscape architect, has tucked these facilities amid the tidal creeks, marshes and lowland forests that make up more than half the park’s acreage.

    The tawny, grass-covered slopes of the trash mounds rise out of the area’s blue water and lush greenery like primordial mesas. A high-tech liner under the garbage and a closed drainage system keep pollutants out of the marshes and streams, Hirsh explains. The water is clean enough that blazing white egrets alight to snack on slimy appetizers exposed by the receding tide.

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    Is anyone here actually interested in Staten Island?

    ABCs and Net-Zeros: City's First No-Energy School

    By Matt Chaban

    Over the past decade, no one has built more "green" buildings than the city's School Construction Authority. Even before Local Law 86 required all civic buildings to be built to sustainability standards, the department had been using such measures—light sensors, efficient heating and cooling systems, recycled materials, etc.—to build healthier instiutions that also save money on energy costs.

    Now, the School Construction Authority is advancing green building into a new realm with a pioneering new school in Staten Island that will be "net zero," meaning it will generate enough energy to offset its already minimal usage. It is the first such building of its kind in New York.

    The city has tapped SOM to design the project, P.S. 62 in the Rossville section of southern Staten Island, a project that was approved by the city' Public Design Commission earlier this month. The firm is better known for designing mid-20th century office buildings—a notoriously inefficient, conspicously consuming typology—that included such hits as Lever House and 9 West 57th Street.

    More recently, SOM, like so many other architects, has embraced sustainable design, as can be seen in its a-best-building-of-2010 Toren, the first project in Brooklyn to use a co-gen plant, among other green features. SOM is currently at work on a net-zero office tower in China, as well.

    The school project is being led by Roger Duffy, who leads SOM's Education Lab. He called P.S. 62 "an extraordinary opportunity to help define a new paradigm for school buildings for New York City and beyond."

    The future school will sit on a 3.5-acre site and will hold 444 seats inside a 70,000-square-foot building. Like many similar sustainable schools, the building itself will serve as a lab to teach students about energy efficiency and sustainability.

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    To suggest that this area needed to be made more beautiful is, in a sense, like imagining that Catherine Deneuve could have benefited from a new look in 1967.
    LOL!...and .

    Economic Revival, Without the Fancy Cheese?

    The Staten Island waterfront has sweeping views of Manhattan and Jersey City.

    A drawing of a major residential and retail project planned for a site on the Staten Island waterfront.
    Minno & Wasko Architects and Planners

    There is a certain queasiness to be felt every time one enters Brooklyn Bridge Park — a sense that the whole enterprise isn’t quite morally tenable.

    The first two perfectly pristine phases of the park have been in operation for more than a year now. When the project is completed it will bring 76 acres of artful waterfront parkland to Dumbo and Brooklyn Heights, further glorifying neighborhoods that already house some of the most expensive and desirable real estate in the city — some of the most dramatic views and green streetscapes and tasteful citizens.

    To suggest that this area needed to be made more beautiful is, in a sense, like imagining that Catherine Deneuve could have benefited from a new look in 1967.

    It is never difficult to see how envy and resentment are fomented in this city: How easy it might be to feel aggrieved if, living in the dilapidated sectors of Staten Island’s North Shore, you considered Brooklyn Bridge Park and noticed that no one had come forward with a dependable offer of aesthetic enhancement for your neighborhood. “For years we’ve been watching what has been going on in Manhattan and Brooklyn,” Katie McCarthy told me when I visited a used bookstore of which she is an owner in the Tompkinsville section, “and wondered, what about us?”

    Two weeks ago, though, in a deal that seemed to conclude at such a remove from public attention that Ms. McCarthy, a 30-year resident of Staten Island, was herself unaware of it, the city completed the sale of a seven-acre site on the Staten Island waterfront called Homeport. A decommissioned naval base, Homeport was turned over to the New Jersey developer Ironstate, a company that was responsible for a lot of the revitalization in Hoboken and Jersey City.

    Ironstate is to invest $150 million to create a 900-unit, low-rise rental apartment complex containing 30,000 square feet of retail space. In an effort to create that great ephemeral, character, only a few of the stores will belong to national chains. The city is supplying $32 million for infrastructure improvements. Much of that will go to create an esplanade and six-acre park, allowing the Bloomberg administration to prove that it isn’t interested merely in the prettiest girl at the party.

    Staten Island, of course, is the borough that so many New Yorkers regard as something to be held away, as if with a pair of tongs. It has never been cool enough, or attractive enough, or poor enough to capture the interests of the city’s liberal ruling class.

    In the two decades of discussion on remaking Homeport, the city has rejected proposals (one for a Formula One racetrack) that would have turned the area into a day tripper’s pit stop, projects with the potential for further cementing Staten Island’s reputation as a place to be left.

    (By the late 1980s, Mike Nichols’s film “Working Girl” had already gone a long way to making that characterization indelible. More recently, the VH1 reality series “Mob Wives” has delivered a less than favorable impression of those who remain.)

    The truth is that people, or at least young people, have been leaving Staten Island over the past 20 or so years. A study released this year by the public policy organization the Center for an Urban Future showed that there were about 2,000 fewer people ages 20 to 34 living on Staten Island in 2009 than there were in 1990. In 1990, that demographic represented 25.3 percent of the population, while now it represents just less than 20 percent. At the same time, the number of people older than 65 has been rising. By 2030, Staten Island is expected to have the highest percentage of senior citizens of any of the five boroughs.

    Even the face of bohemianism there seems comparatively ancient. When I visited Every Thing Goes, a bookstore and cafe on Bay Street where vinyl records are sold and leftist conspiracy theories are dispensed by a bearded East Village exile manning the counter, I encountered no one younger than 50.

    That Staten Island is depleting itself of young people has been a source of concern to the city, Seth W. Pinsky, president of the New York City Economic Development Corporation, told me. The hope is that Homeport will be appealing enough and reasonable enough to retain and attract men and women in their 20s and 30s who might otherwise be inclined to move, especially to New Jersey.

    Could the surrounding neighborhoods, Stapleton and Tompkinsville among them, become the next Williamsburg, as some residents have speculated? In some sense this seems as unlikely as the welcoming of a Wal-Mart on Madison Avenue. Despite Homeport’s proximity to the Staten Island Ferry Terminal, the neighborhood is still far away from well, Williamsburg, and the other neighborhoods in which the young and trend-setting congregate.

    Perhaps even more relevant, Staten Island is not an incubator of preciousness; it seems allergic to preciousness. Before there were artisanal-cheese mongers in Williamsburg there were painters, performance artists, tattoos, eccentrics, an alternative-culture elite. Staten Island has a lower share of residents with bachelor’s degrees than any borough except the Bronx.

    At the same time, though, the island’s North Shore does not conform to the borough’s clichés. (And in truth the borough on the whole has become less like its image: In 2010, 52 percent of Staten Island residents under the age of 18 were non-Hispanic whites, a drop from 73 percent 20 years earlier.) The area surrounding the Homeport site is less suburban, far less well off, less white and grungier than much of Staten Island. You will see graffiti, junkyards, abandoned cassette players and a methadone clinic a few doors down from a sleekly laid-out clothing store — elements that are catnip to a certain kind of 26-year-old.

    With a monorail to Long Island City, who knows what this pocket of Staten Island could become.

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    If they are serious about raising the profile of this area of Staten Island then they need to come up with some kind of attraction.

    Very often, you see a ton of visitors take the free ferry ride over only to turnaround and take the ferry right back to Manhattan without even stepping foot outside the terminal.

    Right now there's no reason for them to.

    The new condos and retail is something but they alone are not game changing. Something that should be bold, big and exciting.

    What exactly that is I'll leave it to others to dream up but here are some ideas: world class aquarium, giant ferris wheel (think London Eye), casino, etc.
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    Back in 1997 there was this proposal by Eisenman for the Staten Island Institute of Arts and Sciences.

    That parking lot behind the ferry terminal is just crying out for redevelopment. The waterfront promenade and 9/11 memorial are quite well done though. A few tourists do go out and see that.

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    I'm sorry but Jersey City and Hoboken have the advantage of the PATH directly connecting us to NYC with NY Waterway being an option. On SI the ferry is your main option other than driving.

    Also from that rendering apparently SI was in JC in 1997

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    The Express bus from Staten Islans is surprisingly convenient. North shore buses go throught the Battery via Bus Lane, and south shore lines go Thru Lincoln Tunnel to mid-town.

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