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    The glass and fins are oddly similar to 250w55th. I'm not sure if that's good or bad yet. That building will probably look better after it gets a good window washing (I'm still not entirely thrilled with it's proportions or massing, as it could have been a much more classically formatted international style tower than it is). I suppose this will as well.

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    ^ I thought the same thing.

    And in this location I find it awful and inappropriate. It's like a giant anvil. At least the old building was partially camouflaged with trees.

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    I know there are all kinds of plans for redoing the public space around this, so I think that will help some. I don't feel like this building changes the neighborhood any considering the proximity to Gwathmey's Sculpture for Living or Thomas Mayne's cooper union building. I was walking by the other day and over heard two people discussing how the SfL destroyed the neighborhood. I find that a curious position to take considering some of the other buildings on Astor place. Such as the white brick building from the 50s with the driveway to the street and the fenced off "yard" or the fact that the sidewalksown the were sliced back to practically nothing upon the decision that everyone should really be driving, it's the future. Ah well. To each their own.

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    Sculpture of Living would be improved greatly if the entire ground floor Astor Place frontage wasn't a Chase Bank.

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    Took this photo recently. The glass on this side isn't getting as much air time, and it's notably different. I really like Maki, but I'm not sure what's going on here.

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    I walked by the other day. This is quite nice.

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    I like the building however this is a rare instance where I think open park space would've been a better improvement than a bigger building.

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    Great quality glass!

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    This is just so wildly different than what was here before. I think the area will be much better once the whole entrance to the subway and street is redone with the public plaza plans. I don't think this building takes up more space than the old one, but because of the additional height, it definitely makes this corner feel more crowded. I think the temporary construction fencing is hurting pedestrian flow here as well. Anyway, it's a nice building, but it feels a little disjoint for Maki.

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    I really want to hate this building but walking past it the other night I realized it works surprisingly well. The tower section is set back so that there is a line of sight up Stuyvesant St that makes the building stick out much less. The size of the building looks bigger in renderings but works for this location; in fact is steps up from the lower scale on the St Marks side to the larger scale on the Lafayette side. I haven't seen it in the day yet but I'm sure if this is Maki then the glass curtain wall will certainly help it hide in plain site like WTC Tower 4 does.

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    That glass looks good. If it looks good on here it must look great in person.

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    Hi, mate.

    How are you?

    The glass looks amazing in person. I particularly like the glass on the east side which is silvery. The new buildings in this area have really transformed it.

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    Hi, amigo. All is well. How are you?

    It has changed completely since I was first in NY in 05 when I lived a block away for the briefest time.

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    Nice mirror to see the beauty across the street at least.


    51 Astor Place Wins Some, Loses Some With the Archicritics

    by Sara Polsky




    The much-maligned new building rising at 51 Astor Place "should not be viewed as mediocre," argues The Journal's Robbie Whelan—but that doesn't mean it's exactly a success, either. What works, in Whelan's view: the building successfully divides "the energetic grime of the East Village and the gentrified civility of the West Village," with the western side hulking and office-like and the eastern side lighter and more fun. Unfortunately, though, the building fails to "live up to Cooper Square's legacy of edgy design."

    The building is the sum of three main sculptural forms: the trapezoidal, dark-glass-clad office space abuts two shapes composed in the lighter glass: a highly regular, light-colored box with a triangular mid-rise piece on top of it. From certain angles, the building will look geological, resembling a pile of jutting, crystalline fragments. From others, it is frustratingly regular-looking and dry….Mr. Maki's building, unfortunately, doesn't say much of anything at all, beyond advertising its cool, no-nonsense sense of propriety as an office space.

    City Planning's land-use guidelines for this particular building site made creativity tough for Maki, Whelan points out, though Maki's office hasn't used that as an explanation or a defense for the final design.

    Here's another look at the site as of this morning:


    Mixed Messages in New Geometry at Cooper Square [WSJ]

    http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/0...itics.php#more

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    Walked by this over the weekend. Nice for a glass box.

    Have they signed any tenants yet?

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