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    Quote Originally Posted by BBMW View Post

    ... The Cato data contains only 11 stories out of 4,699 where a criminal took a gun away from a defender, but 277 where the intended victim disarmed the bad guy, although the authors acknowledge that these event reports may be printed more frequently due to newsworthiness.

    ... There were 25 news reports where armed rape attack victims ultimately got the upper hand, and 65 where this occurred in carjacking attempts.

    ... There were 535 accidental firearms deaths in 2006 within a population of almost 300 million people. Although every lost life is tragic, the proportion is not particularly startling.
    You want startling?

    30,536 gun-related deaths in 2006.

    The Geography of Gun Deaths

    THE ATLANTIC
    January 11, 2011



    The map above charts firearm deaths for the 50 states plus the District of Columbia. Note that these figures include accidental shootings, suicides, even acts of self-defense, as well as crimes. As of 2007, 10.2 out of every 100,000 people were killed by firearms across the United States, but that rate varies dramatically from state to state ...

    And for all the terrifying talk about violence-prone immigrants, states with more immigrants have lower levels of gun-related deaths (the correlation between the two being -.34).

    And for all the terrifying talk about violence-prone immigrants, states with more immigrants have lower levels of gun-related deaths (the correlation between the two being -.34).



    And what about gun control? As of July 29 of last year, Arizona became one of only three states that allows its citizens to carry concealed weapons without a permit. Might tighter gun control laws make a difference? Our analysis suggests that they do.

    The map overlays the map of firearm deaths above with gun control restrictions by state. It highlights states which have one of three gun control restrictions in place - assault weapons' bans, trigger locks, or safe storage requirements.

    Firearm deaths are significantly lower in states with stricter gun control legislation. Though the sample sizes are small, we find substantial negative correlations between firearm deaths and states that ban assault weapons (-.45), require trigger locks (-.42), and mandate safe storage requirements for guns (-.48).

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    Good to know that the massive presence of guns keeps the number of deaths down to an un-startling 30,000 bloody bodies per annum.

    As long as we keep in mind that "every lost life is tragic" then it's so much easier to bear -- and the statistics so much easier to ingest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBMW View Post
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybel...control-lobby/
    Disarming the Myths Promoted By the Gun Control Lobby
    All you have to read is the first few lines:
    As much as gun control advocates might wish otherwise, their attacks are running out of ammo. With private firearm ownership at an all-time high and violent crime rates plunging:
    Violent crime rates plunging? Compared to what, ourselves?

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...-with-firearms

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    So the Liberal Bubble has a low firearm death rate. Who would have guessed?

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    We are just too open minded to, you know, "protect" ourselves from people we disagree with.

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    If you look at the map link that Lofter provided, the list of death-rate by firearm has these states at the bottom of the list:

    46. Connecticut
    47. New Jersey
    48. New York
    49. Rhode Island
    50. Massachusetts
    51. Hawaii

    Of the five in the northeast, only Rhode Island has somewhat less restrictive concealed-carry regulations. The others are the most restrictive in the country, except for Illinois, which is #39. Nearby Pennsylvania is a "shall-issue" state, and their death-rate by firearm is over twice that of the Liberal Bubble.

    No matter how you try to distort the statistics, you're much less likely to die by firearm in New York than in places with less gun control.

    And it seems you're less likely to die by suicide: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...e-rate-so-low/

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    Guns don't kill people.

    Bullets kill people.

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