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    CNG, electric, and hydrogen fuel cell.

    Light rail would also emit greenhouse gases. That electricity has to be generated.

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    It's the fumes in your face and the particulates that affect the pedestrian.

    The greenhouse gases may affect the planet, but they're much further from a walker's concern.

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    The options I mentioned are not fumes in your face.

    Two of the three have none at all. The CNG molecule is much lighter than gasoline or (even heavier) diesel molecules. It rises into the atmosphere. And much less particulate matter.

    The response was to Futurecity's "unselfish" observation. I took that to mean release of greenhouse gases. Electric trains do that at the point of power plant generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    ...release of greenhouse gases. Electric trains do that at the point of power plant generation.
    Except if the power plant is nuclear.

    (Also wind or solar --not yet much of a factor.)

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    Oh OK, I didn't realize we were going to wait until we have a nuclear grid.

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    We get quite a bit of our electricity from Indian point and the Canadian St. James' Bay Hydro system.

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    Have you broken this down regionally?

    I'm not going to bother, but this is the national picture:



    Nuclear and hydro have flat-lined at less than 10% each. Increased demand is being taken up by more fossil fuel generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    Increased demand is being taken up by more fossil fuel generation.
    Hey, hey, hey: let's hear it for fossil fuel.

    When the red line and the yellow line change position in the above diagram, we'll be OK.

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    This is amazingly good news.

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    I assume that others here, like me, would like to see this expanded to other crosstown streets like 14th, 23rd, 42nd and 57th Sts. It would be great to see the sidewalks on those streets widened dramatically and lined with trees.

    Michigan Avenue is a model in this regard (in my opinion).


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    Absolutely!

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    I have to disagree on this project, it is going to shove tons of traffic to the one way streets and cause tons of traffic. I would rather see a BRT (Bus Rapid Transit) that has it's own 'gated' ROW (Right-Of-Way).

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    I think that it's good. People should not drive into NY. NY has the best mass transit in the US and one of the best in the world. It's a shame that the d...ick Sheldon Silver killed the congestion fee. Maybe Bloomberg can revive it and discourage people from driving into Manhattan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidtownGuy View Post
    Absolutely!
    Cheers, amigo!


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    Park the damned cars at the perimeter of Manhattan and use public transit / taxis to get around midtown.

    Anyone needing to get from Jersey to Long Island / Queens / Brooklyn (or vice versa) should go around to the north or south on highways / expressways rather than cutting across Manhattan

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