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    Definitely starting to triangulate.






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    This will be stunning.

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    This will make a great west end gateway onto soon-to-be one of the most architecturally impressive streets in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCom View Post
    This will make a great west end gateway onto soon-to-be one of the most architecturally impressive streets in the world.
    Strongly agree!

    Gale Brewer is an ugly f*cking woman, btw, with a toxic and insidious agenda that is geared towards pandering & not helping NYC. AWFUL. (slightly-ot)

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    Until, of course, the TF Cornerstone monolithic slab is built across the street.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeCom View Post
    This will make a great west end gateway onto soon-to-be one of the most architecturally impressive streets in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybackribs2314 View Post

    Gale Brewer is an ugly f*cking woman, btw (slightly-ot)
    Not as ugly as the one who says so

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    She's much uglier on the inside though, especially between the ears. Her policies are uniformly idiotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASchwarz View Post
    Her policies are uniformly idiotic.
    Care to argue with this idea of hers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 212 View Post
    Care to argue with this idea of hers?
    This is a perfect example of her idiocy. It's wacky even for her standards.

    So her proposal is to require landmarks review for every building in the city over 50 years old. Besides being amazingly impractical (Landmarks is a tiny agency with a few employees, and the majority of city buildings are over 50 years old), it's also possibly illegal (the Department of Buildings has jurisdiction over building demolition, and Landmarks only has jurisdiction when considering buildings that meet specific guidelines regarding historical or architectural note).

    If we really had such a policy, you would basically see Landmarks swamped with thousands of applications, Buildings Department twiddling their thumbs, and property values plummeting for anyting older than 50 years. There would also be the biggest demolition binge the city has ever seen prior to the law's enactment, because anyone with unused air rights or development rights would be crazy to not consider demolishing their building.

    This is right in line with her "stop new schools from being built but then complain about not enough school seats" (seen in her blocking of new schools/housing on the UWS), "stop tourist hotels from popping up but then complain about homeless shelters" (seen in her blocking of tourist hotels on the UWS in SROs, so obviously then all the SROs were converted to homeless shelters, because that's the only other legal, profitable use), and "complain about too many banks and then complain about empty retail spaces" (where she made it illegal to have storefronts over a certain width on the UWS, supposedly to stop banks, but banks have since shrunk their footprints, and now you have a bunch of empty spaces).

    So, yeah, even by the low standards of local politicans, Brewer is as bad as it gets. If she were a local crack kingpin, she probably wouldn't inflict more damage on "the community". Her MO is basically complain about everything related to "change", then once she enacts some ridiculous law, take no responsibility for the law's unintended consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASchwarz View Post
    So her proposal is to require landmarks review for every building in the city over 50 years old.

    Besides being amazingly impractical (Landmarks is a tiny agency with a few employees, and the majority of city buildings are over 50 years old),
    Every building demolition has to go through DOB before approval. The LPC would have to be expanded (a good idea anyway). Similar "impractical" arguments were given when the landmarks bill was first proposed.

    it's also possibly illegal (the Department of Buildings has jurisdiction over building demolition, and Landmarks only has jurisdiction when considering buildings that meet specific guidelines regarding historical or architectural note).
    The proposal is a bill which if approved, would become a law. So not illegal.

    You're also wrong as to the present jurisdiction of LPC. They are not limited to considering buildings that meet specific guidelines. They can consider any building over 30 years old. They determine if the guidelines are met.

    If we really had such a policy, you would basically see Landmarks swamped with thousands of applications, Buildings Department twiddling their thumbs, and property values plummeting for anyting older than 50 years.
    A decrease in property values was predicted when landmarking was first proposed. Didn't happen; if anything, just the opposite.

    There would also be the biggest demolition binge the city has ever seen prior to the law's enactment, because anyone with unused air rights or development rights would be crazy to not consider demolishing their building.
    Demolitions would still have to be approved by DOB. They could easily place a moritorium while the bill is considered. And air-rights are not lost with landmarking.

    You think Brewer is "as bad as it gets" because you don't seem to agree with any position that would stop developers from unchallenged development, no matter what. That's your opinion, but Brewer may be regarded differently by people who don't agree with you.

    Brewer got $1 million more in concessions from Durst on this project. What she does - both good and bad - is the job she was elected to do, represent her constituents. Considering some other City Council members (past and present), that's not "as bad as it gets."

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    That view alone would be one of the largest skylines in the country.

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    We're lucky to live here.

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