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    Yes, this building does make a powerful "impression" on all that set their gaze upon it: a truly impressive looking building. The amazing thing about it, compared to a building like the WTC Path Terminal, is the relative ease and speed of design and construction, they achieved maximum visual impact with minimal effort: the true definition of efficiency, simplicity and elegance.

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    I took these a couple of weeks ago but forgot to load them.

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    Very cool, Czervik!

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    The Atlantic
    May 2015

    The Great Pyramid of Manhattan

    A new kind of high-rise on the West Side

    By Kriston Capps

    Directly south of Hell’s Kitchen in New York City, along the six-year-old High Line park, luxury residential buildings by some of the world’s most famous architects are popping up. To the neighborhood’s east, the soaring towers of Billionaires’ Row cast shadows over Central Park. But Hell’s Kitchen itself still seems an unlikely destination for high design—especially the site on West 57th Street where W57 is rising.

    An apartment building framed by a Con Edison power plant, a Department of Sanitation garage, and the West Side Highway would seem doomed to gray mediocrity. And yet the pyramid taking shape here may be the most dynamic design to emerge from the construction boom reshaping much of Manhattan.

    Actually, pyramid isn’t exactly the word for W57. Neither is tetrahedron, although that’s closer. Technically speaking, it is a hyperbolic paraboloid, according to Bjarke Ingels of the Bjarke Ingels Group (BIG), the Danish architectural firm responsible for W57. Its parabolic pitch is key to how it solves so many problems at once.

    The steep slope of the building (seen here in cross-section ) lends it the scale and vertiginous grandeur of a skyscraper. W57’s roof is “the height of a handrail” at its lowest point, Ingels says, while its tallest point is “the height of a high-rise.” The building’s northern and eastern faces have straight edges extending to its 450-foot-tall apex, while the southwest facade—which also serves as the roof—follows a parabolic dip . It’s as if someone had tugged on one of the faces of the pyramid from the inside, causing the surface to sag.

    Ingels describes this third-facade-cum-roof as “the main experiment of the building.” Sliced into it horizontally, like perforations, are dozens of terraces, which provide the apartments inside with floor-to-ceiling windows. A courtyard cutaway—part of the roof is basically scooped out in order to catch sunlight and views —means lots of the residents in units on the east end of the building will face the same sunset over the Hudson River as their neighbors to the west. In a more traditional high-rise configuration, these eastern units wouldn’t have this view. But W57 essentially has no bad seats.

    The cutaway also creates a central courtyard with still more views of the Hudson, a feature inspired by European perimeter blocks (city blocks in which an outer ring of housing surrounds a central open space ). This green oasis has the same proportions as Central Park—but “13,000 times smaller,” Ingels says.

    As for views of the building, what it looks like will depend on where you stand. This is something of an Ingels signature: like BIG’s Amager Bakke facility in Copenhagen (a waste-to-energy plant that will double as a ski slope) and its Hualien residences in Taiwan (whose dramatically undulating green roofs are meant to echo the surrounding mountains), W57 looks different from various vantage points. From afar, certain facets of W57, including many of the apartments overlooking the courtyard, will appear almost textured, as the units seem to be stacked in a jagged offset pattern; meanwhile, the rest of the southwest facade/roof will be smooth.

    Because the developer wanted the roof to be “completely indestructible,” Ingels told me, the architects chose bead-blasted stainless steel. Hoping to avoid a flaw of Frank Gehry’s Walt Disney Concert Hall, in Los Angeles—whose polished stainless-steel exterior gave off a glare that irritated its neighbors—BIG opted for a finish that’s more matte than mirrored. “When the sun sets over the Hudson River, it’s really going to illuminate this warped piece of metal with the color of the sky,” Ingels says. To drivers on the West Side Highway, the building will look like a luminous triangle.

    The best view, however, will be off-limits to all but a handful of people. “Once this building is finished,” Ingels says, “probably the greatest theme-park ride in America is going to be the route as the window cleaner descends along the roof.”

    Copyright © 2015 by The Atlantic Monthly Group. All Rights Reserved.

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    As to article "hells kitchen unlikely location for high design" comment; that's nuts - any place on Manhattan island is a likely location for high design.

    Journalism is too often loaded with empty verbiage good for little more than filling column space: sorta like posting on Internet forums , come to think of it.....Good content is precious.

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    I think you misquoted the column which said "seems an unlikely destination for high design" - so it's an opinion.

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    Further, considering the costs and psf prices, there are other places (next to the highline, perhaps), that you might expect higher design would pay for itself. I mean, take a look at all the other new buildings up or proposed within a few blocks of this one. While not bad, persay, they're not stellar either.

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    This one is special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoldanTTLB View Post
    Further, considering the costs and psf prices, there are other places (next to the highline, perhaps), that you might expect higher design would pay for itself. I mean, take a look at all the other new buildings up or proposed within a few blocks of this one. While not bad, persay, they're not stellar either.
    The price per square foot on construction to build 'high design' is significantly higher and slower in NYC: so I am surprised that it done in Manhattan as often as we see happening here in Manhattan. Most people do not realize that there are basically two 'types' or 'classes' of buildings' - generic and high design - and though the line between them is often blurred most on this forum recognize the distinction. The high real estate values in NYC justify the large number of High Design buildings we see being built lately; but, as you say, the builders often go generic in NYC even in prime NYC locations such as The High Line. I have my theories; but that discussion is more than I care to go into right now. I just say that greed plays no small part in those decisions.

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    April 28, 2015

    Inside the Futuristic 'Courtscraper' in New York City

    Bjarke Ingels is combining traditionally separate typologies—a courtyard and a skyscraper

    By Belinda Lanks

    Video: Designing the Skyscraper of Tomorrow

    Bjarke Ingels is an architect who delights in combining seemingly incompatible structures. In his home country of Denmark, he's building a public utility plant that turns waste into energy and will double as a ski slope. In the United States, he’s overseeing the construction of a new building on New York's West 57th Street that marries two traditionally separate typologies—a courtyard and a skyscraper.

    The “courtscraper,” as he and his team at BIG (Bjarke Ingels Group) have nicknamed it, takes the shape of a warped pyramid, retaining the density of a high rise while creating a lush green space in its center. “By boiling down Central Park to the scale of a city block,” Ingels says, “we ended up nesting the qualities of the urban oasis into a single building.”

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    Glad this one lures photographers in. Getting tired of shots of 432 and T1 from 10 miles away. This building deserves and holds up to close ups.

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