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    Seeing as how Brookfield has their eyes on building out into the open space around the WFC complex I'd not be surprised to hear they're (internally / quietly) pushing to lose the South Bridge. On many maps & diagrams that show the VSC area / new Liberty Park on the east side of West Street there's no indication of South Bridge.

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    Timelapse

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    thanks for the time lapse.. how far along are you guys in digging out the west part? they look two rows down with the tie backs

    i noticed in the time lapse a number of timbers coming up while digging.. assume that is old time bulk head from back in the days.. have they stopped analyzing the old wood at this point?

    what's up in the north section with the temporary steel wall?

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    WABC
    November 22, 2010

    Underground Ground Zero plan worries some

    By Jim Hoffer

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    NEW YORK (WABC) -- Ground Zero construction is on a tear. The Freedom Tower now 48 stories and climbing at a floor per week. Also well underway, the construction of a network of garages and interconnecting roads below ground that will serve all five of the trade center office towers.

    "It's a logical place to do great damage on this site," Glen Corbett, professor of Fire Safety at John Jay College, said.

    Corbett has been urging the Port Authority to scrap its plans to build underground non-public parking facilities. The $633 million dollar complex will include a vehicle security center where tour buses and delivery trucks will undergo screening before being able to park either in a garage near tower five or one located directly under the huge PATH transit center.

    "It puts a great burden on vehicle security screening center to make sure every tour bus that goes in there is thoroughly searched not just on the first day when facility opens but 10, 20 years into the future," Corbett said.
    We caught up with the Port Authority's Executive Director, Chris Ward, to ask him about the underground complex.

    WARD: This was specifically designed for purposes of security to make this site more secure.

    HOFFER: What kind of security to be able to park tour buses?

    WARD: Not going to discuss security initiatives, but rest assured working with NYPD, this will be the most secured facility in the city.

    But the history of the Port Authority and underground parking is not good. In 1993, a bomb-laden rental truck exploded underneath the Trade Center killing 6 people. A jury found the Port Authority "negligent." The attorney who helped argue the case, Blair Fensterstock, says the new ground zero parking plan is too risky, especially the underground road system.

    "The vulnerability of a road system under a building like the World Trade Center, in and out of different buildings, is extremely high towards a potential terrorist bombing," Fensterstock said.

    HOFFER: Why would you do it again, some are arguing it doesn't make sense to risk it a second time?

    WARD: The security risks for downtown are multiple. The design of the vehicle security center is specifically to make sure that vehicles down there have been scrutinized and evaluated in the most comprehensive way.

    Perhaps the lessons have been learned and the half-billion dollar plus underground parking and road system will be a model of security, but it's a vigilance that will have to be maintained 24/7 for decades to come:

    "The question is the developing spectrum of screening going to keep up with the developments of the terrorism. And when you put that against the background of what's happened at the WTC before, I would not want to take that risk," Fensterstock said.

    Critics of the underground garages say an alternative would be to park tour buses on the Jersey side of the Hudson and have visitors take the PATH train right to the Trade Center and the memorial site.

    If you have a tip about this or any other issue you'd like investigated, please give our tipline a call at 877-TIP-NEWS. You may also e-mail us at the.investigators@abc.com and follow Jim Hoffer on Twitter at twitter.com/nycinvestigates

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    I think they're going to keep the pedestrian bridge, given that A) they just built a new center pylon and B) Liberty Park will be at roughly the same elevation as the old plaza level, giving it a use.
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    Called it:
    http://tribecatrib.com/news/2010/nov...ont-yards.html
    (Originally posted on SSP by NYGuy)

    Bridge stays and it will hook into the the elevated Liberty Park.

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    I know the renders shown there ^ are really preliminary, but I hope they'e not serious about the wall shown fronting the new Liberty Park along West Street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    I know the renders shown there ^ are really preliminary, but I hope they'e not serious about the wall shown fronting the new Liberty Park along West Street.
    It'll be just like old times! Except a block south.

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    That is definitely the impression the render shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    I know the renders shown there ^ are really preliminary, but I hope they'e not serious about the wall shown fronting the new Liberty Park along West Street.
    No...that's pretty accurate. Liberty Park has been largely finalized, as it's the roof over the VSC. The VSC required some above ground structures, and you would either have to deal with a park bisected by a large structure that includes the ramp down to the underground areas, or an 18' wall on West St. They went with the latter, more net open space.

    You'd think they'd learn better, and maybe fit in some retail at the base to liven it up, but eh.

    Quote Originally Posted by HoveringCheesecake View Post
    It'll be just like old times! Except a block south.
    Pretty much. It will be at the exact same elevation as the old WTC plaza level to connect with the footbridge.
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    I also think there is a loading dock in that wall along West St. and stairwells leading up to the park on each corner to divert pedestrians away. Also, somebody (I think Zippy) asked a while back about vents for the VSC similar to the buildings at the memorial, and yes there will be smaller vent buildings on the other side of that wall along West St.

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    Very interesting. If they don't put any retail in the space, perhaps leave it open for art installations or murals?

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    Perfect for artwork leading up to the Memorial, definitely no retail here.

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    ^Retail couldn't be any worse than the restaurant in the 3rd floor of Tower 4 that will overlook the memorial. Or the private outdoor deck on top of the podium of Tower 3 (I don't recall its specific purpose).

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