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    This is the articale referemced by bigchet (above)

    Mosque going up in NYC building damaged on 9/11

    By Cristian Salazar, Associated Press Writer | May 6, 2010

    NEW YORK --In a building damaged by debris from the Sept. 11 airliners that brought down the World Trade Center and soon to become a 13-story mosque, some see the bridging of a cultural divide and an opportunity to serve a burgeoning, peaceful religious population. Others see a painful reminder of the religious extremism that killed their loved ones.

    Two Muslim organizations have partnered to open the mosque and cultural center in lower Manhattan, saying the $100 million project will create a venue for mainstream Islam and a counterbalance to radicalism. It earned a key endorsement this week from influential community leaders.

    But some 9/11 victims' families said they were angered that it would be built so close to where their relatives died.

    "I don't like it," said Evelyn Pettigano, who lost a sister in the attacks, during a phone interview on Thursday. "I'm not prejudiced. ... It's too close to the area where our family members were murdered."

    But the growing number of congregants at the only other nearby mosque, open only one day a week, created a need for an additional space for Muslim prayer in the neighborhood, said Daisy Khan, the executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement and a board member of the Cordoba Initiative, the two organizations sponsoring the project.

    The history associated with the building, a former Burlington Coat Factory store that closed after being damaged on 9/11, was a reason to pick it for the project, she said.

    "We want to create a platform by which the voices of the mainstream and silent majority of Muslims will be amplified. A center of this scale and magnitude will do that," Khan said. "We feel it's an obligation as Muslims and Americans to be part of the rebuilding of downtown Manhattan."

    The organizations publicly unveiled the preliminary plan for the project, known as the Cordoba House, on Wednesday at a meeting of the finance committee of the local community board, which is composed of influential stakeholders in lower Manhattan. While the agency has no authority over what can be developed at the site, their support is viewed as key to gaining acceptance from residents.

    Edward "Ro" Sheffe, the chairman of the financial district committee for Community Board 1, said the 15 members passed a resolution of support for the project, though he emphasized that the board had no authority to approve or disapprove of a house of worship, per se. Indeed, he said the developers could do whatever they wanted with the building, which they own.

    "They came to tell us what they had in mind and see what we felt about it," he said. "The understanding we came away with was that this was an ongoing dialogue."

    The members' only concerns had to do with the aesthetics of the building, and whether it would fit with the surrounding architecture, he said. The overall feeling was one of goodwill because the financial district, a fast-growing residential area, lacks for amenities such as community centers.

    "We very much need residential amenities for the people who live here," he said.

    But the simple idea of a mosque so near ground zero angered those whose family members were killed by adherents to radical Islam.

    "I think it's despicable, and I think it's atrocious that anyone would even consider allowing them to build a mosque near the World Trade Center," said Rosemary Cain, whose son, George Cain, a firefighter, died on Sept. 11.

    Anita LaFond Korsonsky, a Livingston, N.J., woman who lost her sister, also said she had misgivings.

    "I presume that these people aren't going to be gathering there to plan another attack," she said.

    The Muslim organizations plan to announce the groundbreaking later this year, possibly to coincide with the 10th anniversary of the attacks, Khan said. It could take up to three years to build the Cordoba House; the groups currently have no funds for the project but plan to start raising money, she said.

    A Friday prayer service has been held since September at the building, she said.

    Marvin Bethea, a paramedic who survived the toxic collapse of the twin towers and suffers from a range of afflictions, including post-traumatic stress disorder and asthma, said he supports the mosque.

    "Not all Muslims are terrorists," Bethea said. "Muslims died on 9/11, as well. This is a tremendous gesture to show that we're not all full of hatred and bigotry."
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    Associated Press writer Karen Matthews contributed to this report.
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    So many ignorant quotes in this article. Embarrassing.

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    A red flag goes up in my mind whenever someone protests, "I'm not prejudiced!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynRider View Post

    Mosque going up in NYC building damaged on 9/11
    Tea Party Leader 'Apologizes' For Calling WTC Mosque a Monument to 'Monkey God'

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    MANHATTAN — A Tea Party leader who said on Wednesday in a blog rant against the proposed World Trade Center mosque that Muslims worshipped a "monkey god" has apologized — to Hindus.

    Mark Williams, a conservative radio host, self-proclaimed "founding Tea Party Patriot" and chairman of the Tea Party Express, wrote on his blog that the 13-story mosque slated for the former Burlington Coat Factory building near Ground Zero was a monument "for the worship of the terrorists' monkey-god." ...

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    While I fully support a mosque being located there, I thought that it was going to be located within the beautiful building that's currently there. It would really suck to see it razed especially with all of the crap in the area that could be redeveloped, let alone all of the empty lots.

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    Designation Could Derail Controversial WTC Mosque

    The 13-story mosque and Islamic center proposed for a site near ground zero that's making international headlines and inspiring all sorts of absurd commentary could possibly be derailed by that most powerful god of all: the Landmarks Preservation Commission. The Cordoba House would be built following the demolition of 45 Park Place, a shuttered Burlington Coat Factory store with a roof badly damaged in the 9/11 attack. The 152-year-old Palazzo-style building was once considered for landmark designation in 1989, and has been held under "calendared" status ever since, the Tribeca Trib reports. Now, with the building facing the wrecking ball, the LPC plans on holding a public hearing all these years later. If 45 Park Place is granted landmark status (a long shot), that's going to add quite a hurdle for its glass-and-steel replacement—and likely land LPC its first-ever Fox News Channel coverage!
    · City Could Halt Mosque, Community Center Plans Near WTC Site [Trib Trib]
    · 45 Park Place coverage [Curbed]

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    I hope this building is landmarked. It's beautiful and needs to be restored.

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    I'll go on the record here predicting that if this building gets landmarked, there will be cries of religious discrimination.

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    Has there been any real threat of an owner -- any owner -- demolishing the building up until this point?

    Inaction by the LPC aside, the very fact that the building was "Calendared" puts it in a special category. That took lace 20+ years ago. Any buyer should have been aware of the potential for actual Landmark status and the limitations that come with it.

    Seems that the Cordoba crew might have an argument with the broker and their lawyer, rather than with the LPC.

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    Putting a Mosque in a European Influenced Building is inappropriate. A building that is a testiment to Western Culture and civilization should not be turned into something that represents something radically different. I would have nothing against constructing a new building or using a modern building to house the mosque.

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    ^The owner wants to tear it down and build this:


    This is ridiculous. Why did the LPC wait until now? Why wait until the owner wasted money hiring architects and drawing up plans. This makes the process so much more difficult and leaves a greater chance that building will be torn down.

    I love this building, and hope for its restoration every time I walk by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundam00 View Post
    Putting a Mosque in a European Influenced Building is inappropriate.
    It's not a mosque.

    A building that is a testiment to Western Culture and civilization should not be turned into something that represents something radically different.
    So government denying religious freedom is part of Western Culture?

    I would have nothing against constructing a new building or using a modern building to house the mosque.
    So you think a building carries more significance than the Constitution?

    Pardon me, but this is a crock. It's exactly the ignorant intolerance that the 09/11 terrorists were all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynRider View Post

    Mosque going up in NYC building damaged on 9/11
    A gang of Tea Party folks + cohorts, all up in arms against the Cordoba House plan, are organizing a protest this Friday at noon on the sidewalk outside Zuccotti Park.

    But it seems they don't have a permit to gather in the numbers they're hoping for ...

    PRESERVE OUR FREEDOM, PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY;
    SAY NO TO MOSQUE AT “GROUND ZERO” »


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    FREE CITIZENS' PERMIT CANCELED TO PROTEST 911 MEGA MOSQUE

    UPDATE: WE WILL PROTEST AT ZUCCOTTI PARK, NOT IN IT. WE WILL BE IN THE STREETS AND ON THE SIDEWALK ON JUNE 6TH AT NOON. FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY.

    Look at this. Zuccotti Park gave us a permit and canceled it late yesterday. They are so inconsistent. They let the left protest anywhere, do anything, march everywhere. Cindy Sheehan and her band of America-hating freaks were never turned down. Code Pink their virulent anti-semitism and Bush-deranged mental patients are always accommodated. The 911 truth freaks protest on 911, every year. But the city dhimmis down when Islamic supremacists are involved. This will not stand. There must be a public outcry. Freedom of assembly is guaranteed under the Constitution.

    Even the left wing clowns at the Times wrote today in a stupefying pro-mega mosque piece:

    But they have a right to protest. It is guaranteed in the First Amendment, the same one that ensures freedom of religion, with no asterisk that says “*except for Islam.” It is the same amendment that allows a strip joint and a porno shop to exist a couple of blocks from hallowed ground.
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    Demonstrators Denied Permit for WTC Mosque Protest at Zuccotti Park: DNAinfo

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    STOP ISLAMIZATION OF AMERICA

    Need a Ride to the Protest Against the 911 Mega Mosque at Ground Zero?

    Lots of good folks across America have asked us if we could hook them up with others traveling to the mega mosque protest on D Day, June 6th, at Ground Zero’s Zuccotti Park. We thought we would start a thread in the comment section for people to hook up. Need a ride? Meet up in the comment section of this post.

    Any problems? Write to Robert or me in the comment section. Thanks

    Zuccotti Park at Ground Zero. Zuccotti Park, formerly named and generally known as Liberty Plaza Park. is a 33,000-square-foot (3,100 m2) park in Lower Manhattan in New York City, New York. It is located between Broadway and Church streets and Liberty and Cedar streets. Its northwest corner is across the street from the World Trade Center site.

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    The comments at both websites linked above ^^^ seem to indicate it will be a loud and lively crowd, of a singular bent.

    The flyer:


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    What prejudiced pricks these people are. A mosque should be permitted in this area. However, I desperately hope that it's not built at that site because destroying those beautiful buildings would be a pity. In a city with so much dilapidated garbage, they could find a site worthy of development. I can think of several right on Broadway just south of Fulton Street.

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