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    Saturday, December 1, 2012
    Jovan Belcher kills girlfriend, himself news services

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher fatally shot his girlfriend early Saturday, then drove to Arrowhead Stadium and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager, police said.
    Police said the 25-year-old killed his girlfriend and then went to the team practice facility, where he shot himself. Police did not identify the victim.
    Members of the Chiefs organization told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that some players noticed Belcher was troubled in his car, and went in the facility and told someone, before coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli called police and went outside to talk to him. Belcher then killed himself in front of them.
    Before turning the gun on himself, Belcher thanked Crennel and Pioli for all they had done for him, police spokesman Darin Snapp said.
    Belcher's mother was visiting the couple and saw the shooting. The couple had a 3-month-old daughter who was also at the house, the report said. Authorities received a call Saturday morning from a woman who said her daughter had been shot multiple times at a residence about five miles away from the Arrowhead complex.
    "When we arrived, a lady informed us that her daughter had been shot multiple times by her boyfriend, by the daughter's boyfriend," Snapp said. "She identified him as a Chiefs player."
    Snapp said a call was then received from the Chiefs' facility.
    "The description matched the suspect description from that other address. We kind of knew what we were dealing with," he said. The player was "holding a gun to his head" as he stood in front of the front doors of the practice facility.
    "And there were Pioli and Crennel and another coach or employee was standing outside and appeared to be talking to him. It appeared they were talking to the suspect," Snapp said. "The suspect began to walk in the opposite direction of the coaches and the officers and that's when they heard the gunshot. It appears he took his own life."
    The coaches told police they never felt in any danger, Snapp said.
    "They said the player was actually thanking them for everything they'd done for him," he said. "They were just talking to him and he was thanking them and everything. That's when he walked away and shot himself."
    Snapp described the girlfriend as in her early 20s and that she and the player had a child together. He said the woman's mother told police they had recently been arguing.
    Arrowhead Stadium went into lockdown at about 8 a.m.
    "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation, the Chiefs said in a statement."
    Belcher, an undrafted player out of Maine and native of West Babylon, N.Y., on Long Island, had started 44 of 59 games in his four seasons for the Chiefs, recording a career-high 61 tackles in 2011. Kansas City is scheduled to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday. The league has informed the Panthers to travel as scheduled because the game is going on as scheduled.
    The Chiefs, expected to contend for the AFC West title, are 1-10 and mired in an eight-game losing streak.
    The Chiefs have been ravaged by injuries, lead the league in turnovers, can't settle on a quarterback and are dealing with a full-fledged fan rebellion.
    Things have been so bad this season that Crennel fired himself as defensive coordinator. The Twitter account for a fan group known as "Save Our Chiefs" recently surpassed 80,000 followers, about 17,000 more than the announced crowd at a recent game.

    Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

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    What a horrible story.

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    Yesterday's Packers - Vikings' game was amazing. Lead changes, comebacks, clutch , big plays - really a terrific game.
    Adrian Peterson is an incredilbe football player.

    OF course as a Jets' fan I don't really get to see many good games, or incredible football players, so what do I know?

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    AP is astounding...I was off my chair on that last 30 yard burst screaming for him to make it into the end zone. He has made a Peyton Manning lock for MVP a much muddier decision after yesterday's performance.

    The Jets again are a joke. Tebow with a one snap hand off...Sanchez with no TDs and a sub 50% completion day to (perhaps) end his starting career. And then you read this story and it just seems so "normal" for that organization.

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    Unfortunately, the observation about the sublime being normal with the Jets is probably true. As a fan going for over 45 years, I can tell you that following this team is a curse. Still, I don't blame them for looking at Rugland, you would be surpised at now many successful past and present day kickers and punters have non-American football backgrounds.

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    A little trivia piece; Indy has played only 2 playoff games in Baltimore ever. Adam Vinatieri has scored all 24 points for Indy in those 2 games.

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    That TD pass from Flacco to Smith is what he does best. Get the ball over the top. He might not always be the most accurate passer statistically, but when he is on, he is one of the best deep passers in the game.

    I know he is having an inconsistent season, but Flacco is otherwise a good example of how QB ratings do not always reflect how good certain QB's are. Andrew Luck is another example. I think Phil Simms (who threw a lot of deep seems and 20 yr posts and outs) Daryle Lamonica and Sonny Jurgenson are other such examples. Needless to say I feel the same way about Namath.
    Last edited by eddhead; January 12th, 2013 at 05:29 PM.

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    ...exactly what I mean about Flacco. He may not have a high completion percentage, but because he throws downfield, low percentage passes. You don't see a lot of 7 yard slants from him. But when he is on he is good at deep passing, and it opens up lanes for the power running game. It's old school but when he is on, it is effective.

    Of course when he is off he really sucks. He has been very inconsistent so far this year. But I would take him.

    I think this is what the Jets would like to be. Now all they need is a QB who can get the ball downfield, WR's, an o-line, and maybe a power running back, and presto!

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    I was rooting for the Seahawks, but it serves them right for trying to freeze Bryant. I really hate that stuff.

    I wonder if anyone has ever done an analysis on how successful a tactic that is vs. how many times it has bitten the 'freezer' in the a$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddhead View Post
    I was rooting for the Seahawks, but it serves them right for trying to freeze Bryant. I really hate that stuff.

    I wonder if anyone has ever done an analysis on how successful a tactic that is vs. how many times it has bitten the 'freezer' in the a$$
    And worse, Carroll pretends like he didn't call it...he may not have made the hand gesture but he clearly told the official he was calling the time out.

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    I think he was pissed that time wasn't called sooner by the official, allowing the ball to be snapped and Bryant getting a practice kick. It may not work, but if you're going to do it, best time is when the kicker is measuring his placement.

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    So the pattern by the Patriots after a tough loss is for the coach to say nothing, and let a player's wife throw a hissy-fit.

    Last year Gisele called out the Pats WRs for dropping her hubby's passes. This year Anna takes to Facebook, I guess because Wes Welker is being blamed for the loss by clueless fans - how could some people in Foxboro actually boo the loss. Wasn't Welker's fault anyway; Pats were thoroughly outplayed in the 2nd half.

    I'm no fan of Ray Lewis, but a team extended family member should know when to shut up, especially at a keyboard. If she F-bombed like Gisele did, at least it would have been funny.

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    If Pats fans don't want Welker, I know one Northeast AFC team he can play on.

    You're right, Welker is not the reason they lost. The Ravens were simply the better team. And Flacco played a great game. I was happly to see it, because I think he gets a bad rap from his own fan base. It is true that he was inconsistent this year, but the Ravens ask him to make a lot more low-percentage, high reward plays than other teams ask of their QB's.

    I will take him too.

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    Default Torrey Smith: Pats fans taunted me over dead brother

    Did anyone catch the Tom Brady slide where he appeared to kick his leg at Ed Reed? There is a lot of buzz on it on and a few other sites.

    It semms to me if Suh had done that he would have been heavily fined. I wonder what the NFL plans to do to Brady.

    In the meantime, more classy actions by Pats fans.


    Torrey Smith: Pats fans taunted me over dead brother

    Sunday's AFC Championship Game loss to the Baltimore Ravens has brought out the worst in a handful of New England Patriots fans.
    Torrey Smith claims he was the subject of angry tweets from Patriots supporters taunting the Ravens wideout for the death of his younger brother. Tevin Smith passed away after a motorcycle accident in September, an event that united Baltimore's locker room.

    "Played a lot of games since my brothers death and I never received as many rude tweets after a win than Sunday...yet NE fans cry about class," Smith tweeted Tuesday.

    Patriots fans were up in arms over comments by Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs, who shredded New England after the game.
    "These are the most arrogant (expletive) in the world," Suggs said.

    Twitter can be a comfortable home to classless, vapid behavior. It's better to expect the worst, but anyone going after Smith for the death of a family member has outdone Suggs by a country mile.

    The fierce rivalry between these two teams is one of the best in the NFL. Some of the antics surrounding the game itself we could do without.

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    I watched both games from a dusty, lakeside hut/bar in Nicaragua....(there's no escaping the droning of Joe Buck!)...I saw Brady's slide, it was nothing...a QB, who is targeted with intent to injure on every snap, throwing a leg up in at an old enemy who was bearing down on him like a truck. He was more liable to break his own than do major damage to anyone else.

    Overall, it's a bad Superbowl match up. Yet another running rookie QB who was crow barred into his team mid-season by a maniacal coach against the never ending and sickening run of Ray "pay-off" Lewis.

    I hope Ed Reed gets a mention in his first SB despite the hogging of the headlines by the Harbaughs, Lewis and Kaepernick.

    I find it virtually impossible to want either team to win so I'll be buying a few extra boxes this year to get excited for this one.
    Last edited by IrishInNYC; January 29th, 2013 at 09:28 AM.

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