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    nyc: xmas snowpocalypse 2010

     
    first up, this is 233rd st & white plains rd 2/5 station way up in the bronx last night….don’t ask!!!!


     
    the rest are around the west village and greenwich village this morning:




















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    lots ‘o stuck vehicles





     

    *** that’s all from a snowy and windy blizzard weekend! ***

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    Really the blizzard of '96 seemed worse. I got out the door walked on mostly cleared sidewalks to the running subway, and got to work at me normal time (one of the very few who made it in.)

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    I think '96 was twice as bad.

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    Almost exactly the same amount of snow, 20"

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    For some reason it was a lot higher back then.

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    Live Blogging the Storm’s Aftermath

    December 27, 2010
    COREY KILGANNON and ANDY NEWMAN



    At least one city street is looking positively spiffy. That's East 79th Street between Fifth and Madison Avenues you're looking at, grayish asphalt positively gleaming (metaphorically speaking) in the afternoon shade.

    The block happens to be the home of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg - those are the bay windows of his doublewide townhouse on the left.

    East 79th, it should be noted, is also a thoroughfare for buses, so there's plenty of reasons to keep it extra-clear.

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...izzoners-block



    New York Struggles as Blizzard’s Impact Chastens Bloomberg

    December 28, 2010
    By RUSS BUETTNER

    As New York City struggled with huge snowdrifts left by a crippling blizzard the day before, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg acknowledged on Tuesday that the cleanup had been slower than expected and the impact worse than had been apparent when the snow stopped falling.

    While major thoroughfares seemed at least passable, especially in Manhattan, streets across vast stretches of the city remained untouched, leaving tens of thousands of residents unable to get to jobs and many facing long waits for ambulances and other emergency services.

    Plows were unable to clear scores of streets that remained blocked by stuck buses and cars.

    City officials pressed resources from several agencies to work, as a chorus of complaints from residents and elected officials arose on blogs and call-in shows. Christine C. Quinn, the City Council speaker, who has often sided with the mayor, said the city’s response to the blizzard was the worst in memory.

    “Clearly, the response was unacceptable,” said Ms. Quinn, who announced she would hold a hearing on the matter. “We’re hearing reports from all over of people not even having seen a plow by the afternoon of the day after. This is a level of lack of cleanup that I really can’t recall.”

    At a midday news conference, Mr. Bloomberg set a more somber tone than he had a day earlier, when he assured New Yorkers that the cleanup was proceeding smoothly. On Tuesday, he said he had visited all five boroughs, and asked for patience as the city dealt with the sixth-biggest snowfall in its history.

    “It is a bad situation,” he said, adding: “Nobody suggests that this is easy. Nobody suggests that this is pleasurable. But I can tell you this: We are doing everything that we can think of, working as hard as we can.”

    His sanitation commissioner, John J. Doherty, said the department would not meet its usual goal of plowing all city streets within 36 hours after snow stops falling. Mr. Doherty said that he could not be certain when the work would be finished, and that some smaller streets might still remain impassable by Wednesday afternoon, more than 50 hours after the snow stopped.

    Vito Turso, a department spokesman, said that as of 5 p.m. Tuesday, the agency had plowed 99 percent of the city’s primary thoroughfares, 76 percent of its secondary streets — those that feed into main arteries — and 52 percent of its tertiary roads since snow began. But many of those may need to be plowed again.

    Mass transit limped back on Tuesday, as the area’s commuter railroads resumed limited service and airports began trying to move backlogs of stranded passengers. Two subway lines and dozens of bus routes remained out of commission. The city also grappled with many immobilized ambulances, fire trucks and tens of thousands of 911 calls since the storm began, many of them for minor troubles, city officials said.

    As reasons for the snow-plowing delays, Mr. Bloomberg cited the storm’s fast-falling snow, and powerful winds that conspired to re-cover plowed streets. But he attributed much of the difficulty to drivers who tried to move their vehicles even as the snow fell hard on Sunday night and early Monday morning.

    A shortage of tow trucks continued to hamper the effort, the mayor said. More than 1,000 private vehicles had been towed from just three main thoroughfares. More than 200 ambulances became stuck, some more than once, though all but 40 had been pulled out by Tuesday morning. Mr. Bloomberg said measures would be taken to prevent that from happening in the future.

    “We’ve looked at some things that we probably could have done better,” the mayor said.

    Some other officials were quick to criticize his decisions. Bill de Blasio, the city’s public advocate, said Mr. Bloomberg should have declared a snow emergency, requiring that parked vehicles be removed from major roadways, as the storm approached on Saturday evening. “I don’t think New Yorkers got a clear enough message,” Mr. de Blasio said.

    Mr. Bloomberg told reporters that declaring a snow emergency would have led to more problems — though he spoke only of issuing an alert as snow fell, not before, when people would have time to respond.

    “The snow emergency would require everybody on the main streets to move their car, and the question is, to where?” the mayor said. “All it would have done was put an awful lot more cars stuck in the middle of roads, which would have made plowing even more difficult.”

    More questions are likely to be raised. The Council has scheduled a hearing on the response effort for Jan. 10. Some are already asking whether staffing reductions played a role in city plows’ inability to keep up with the snowfall on main streets during the storm — a problem that sanitation officials say kept them from starting on smaller roadways sooner.

    The budget for the Sanitation Department, which runs snow removal efforts, has increased to $1.32 billion, from $1.09 billion in fiscal year 2006.

    But the ranks of uniformed members have fallen to a planned 7,016 by next June from 7,733 in 2006, said Doug Turetsky, a spokesman for the city’s Independent Budget Office.

    That is the lowest staffing level since 1997, though the number has bounced up and down several times since. The Bloomberg administration shrank the department’s uniformed ranks by 400 through attrition but recently hired 100 new workers and ordered the demotion of 100 foremen back into the ranks of workers, said Harry Nespoli, president of the Uniformed Sanitationmen’s Association.

    Mr. Nespoli said he believed that staffing should be increased, for just this sort of emergency. But he said the staff reductions and discord over the demotions had not slowed the city’s response to the storm. Rather, he said, the ferocity of the storm and stranded vehicles created special challenges.

    “The day guys on Monday were having a hard time moving around because of stranded buses, cars and other vehicles,” Mr. Nespoli said. “That made for a slow start.”

    In addition to the department’s 1,700 plows and the 2,000 workers it had on duty at any given time during the storm, Mr. Bloomberg listed numerous city agencies that were contributing personnel and equipment to the cleanup.

    Another 70 private tow and 16 heavy-duty trucks were hired, as is common during large storms. But it was still not enough. The mayor said hiring private owners of heavy equipment had been difficult because so many companies were closed for the holidays.

    As 911 calls poured in, Mr. Bloomberg said police officials had taken the unusual step of sending patrol cars to respond to calls for an ambulance, to provide coverage in case the ambulance does not arrive.

    On Monday, there were 49,478 emergency calls, the sixth-highest total in the system’s history, said Paul J. Browne, the chief police spokesman. The most was during the 2003 blackout, with 96,660 calls; Sept. 11, 2001, brought the third-highest total, 55,574. Call volume was down on Tuesday, with 28,180.

    Mr. Bloomberg said he shared the anger emanating from snowbound neighborhoods. But he also showed some irritation of his own, saying people’s perceptions were based largely on whether their own streets were clear.

    “We cannot do everything all the time, and we are doing the best we can,” he said.

    Street clearing remained uneven. Most streets in Upper Manhattan, from Harlem to Washington Heights, were cleared by noon Tuesday, though snow was still a problem on side streets where cars had blocked plows.

    In Flatbush, Brooklyn, on Tuesday afternoon, a tractor-trailer blocked the intersection of Clarendon Road and Bedford Avenue, where it had been stuck since Monday. The driver, Alex Gonzalez, 30, said he was destined for a delivery in the neighborhood when the truck stopped.

    “I knew it was going to be bad,” he said. “But when the company says you got to do a delivery, you’ve got to do a delivery.”

    Around the corner, Wendell Thomas, 27, took the day off from work at Interfaith Hospital, where he is a janitor. “You can’t get a cab, you can’t get a bus,” Mr. Thomas said. “It’s like we’re held hostage. But we still got rent to pay. We still got bills to pay.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/ny...1&ref=nyregion

    For a Snow-Crippled City, a Morsel of Humble Pie From the Mayor

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    no way was '96 worse. the snow total was the about the same, but the wind in this one was a category two hurricane and driving and transit were more disrupted.

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    From Wikipedia -

    The Blizzard of 1996 was a severe nor'easter that paralyzed the U.S. East Coast with up to 4 feet (1.2 m) of wind-driven snow from January 6 to January 8, 1996. It was followed by another storm on January 12th.

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    New York City's Central Park officially recorded 20.2 inches (51 cm) for its fourth-largest single snowfall (records going back to 1869), but many locations in the other boroughs and suburbs recorded over 30 inches (76 cm) of snow however, in this snowstorm, the transit network did shut down).

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    NEW YORK — It's not the worst snow storm that New York City has ever experienced. It's not even in the top five.
    National Weather Service meteorologist Adrienne Leptich said Monday that this year's blizzard was the sixth-worst storm since the agency began keeping records in 1869.
    A Feb 11-12, 2006, storm dropped 26.9 inches in Central Park, breaking the previous 1947 high by half an inch.
    The storm that clobbered the city Sunday left 20 inches of snow in Central Park.
    —Copyright 2010 Associated Press
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    Vistiting friends.














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    Fantastic short video by Jamie Stuart of the blizzard - filmed, edited, and posted pretty much in the span of the blizzard's passing:


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    Quote Originally Posted by stache View Post
    From Wikipedia -

    The Blizzard of 1996 was a severe nor'easter that paralyzed the U.S. East Coast with up to 4 feet (1.2 m) of wind-driven snow from January 6 to January 8, 1996. It was followed by another storm on January 12th.

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    New York City's Central Park officially recorded 20.2 inches (51 cm) for its fourth-largest single snowfall (records going back to 1869), but many locations in the other boroughs and suburbs recorded over 30 inches (76 cm) of snow however, in this snowstorm, the transit network did shut down).

    From the Wall Street Journal -

    Associated Press

    NEW YORK — It's not the worst snow storm that New York City has ever experienced. It's not even in the top five.
    National Weather Service meteorologist Adrienne Leptich said Monday that this year's blizzard was the sixth-worst storm since the agency began keeping records in 1869.
    A Feb 11-12, 2006, storm dropped 26.9 inches in Central Park, breaking the previous 1947 high by half an inch.
    The storm that clobbered the city Sunday left 20 inches of snow in Central Park.
    —Copyright 2010 Associated Press
    Yes I was I am born and raised here. I remember the snow drifted highed than my door against my house here in Jersey City.

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    Thank you JCMAN. My question was actually directed to meesalikeu.

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    I agree, 1996 seemed like much more snow.

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    '96 was more snow.

    I remember in Oakland NJ, walking for my Drivers License renewal (they needed a pic and, strangely enough, the DMV was open!

    I think the difference in this storm was simple. It fell quicker. It was only going for what, 12 hours? It also blew around so much that it was hard to keep up with.

    Coming back from my parents at about 1pm on NJ route 208 and 17 I saw 6 accidents in less than 20 miles! (I think it had just reached sticking-point and people started sliding when they were not careful).

    The thing that annoyed me about that was seeing the closer I got to NYC, the more people started tailgating. Idiots.

    The funniest I saw was a BMW CUV/AWD that took out a street light. Gee, I guess those commercials that say "professional driver on closed course" arent kidding! You really CAN'T drive a BMW like they do through the snow!!!!! :P


    BTW, after a good 6 hours of back-breaking shoveling, I was out for a good 36 hours. I then used an electric snow blower we just ordred to get the rest. Not easy work.


    One last thing. I always love it when municipalities have all these "snow emergency" roads with threats of towing that will only tow you when the snow is 6" or less. If it is more than that, when you could actually USE the tow, then they let you dig yourself out! (Irony being, that is when the snow emergency is realy needed). Money grubbing hypocrites.
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