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    US congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in Arizona

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    A US congresswoman is in a critical condition after being shot at a public event in Arizona in an attack in which five people were killed.

    Democratic Representative Gabrielle Giffords, 40, was shot in the head at close range in front of hundreds of people in Tucson.

    A doctor told reporters he was "very optimistic about her recovery".

    President Barack Obama said the dead included a nine-year-old girl and a federal judge he named as John Roll.

    The Associated Press news agency reported that one of Ms Giffords' political aides was also killed in the shooting.
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    “It is an indication of the febrile, volatile nature of politics in America that, immediately the news broke, the internet was alive with anger, a dispute between the left and the right”

    A man was arrested after the incident. The motive remains unclear.

    Several other people received "non-life-threatening" injuries in the shooting.

    Ms Giffords, 40, who represents the eighth district of Arizona in the US House of Representatives, is married to space shuttle astronaut Mark Kelly.

    She has served on several congressional committees, including those covering the armed services and foreign affairs.

    Jeff Rogers, chairman of the local Democrats, told BBC News that Ms Giffords was "a rising star" in the party with hopes of eventually winning the Arizona Senate seat.

    He described her as "a wonderful congresswoman and a wonderful person", adding: "We just can't continue to have this kind of carnage on school campuses and against public officials."

    In a statement issued by the White House, President Obama said: "This morning, in an unspeakable tragedy, a number of Americans were shot in Tucson, Arizona, at a constituent meeting with Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

    "And while we are continuing to receive information, we know that some have passed away, and that Representative Giffords is gravely wounded.

    "We do not yet have all the answers. What we do know is that such a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society.

    "I ask all Americans to join me and Michelle in keeping Representative Giffords, the victims of this tragedy, and their families in our prayers."

    The Speaker of the House or Representatives, John Boehner, said: "I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff.

    "An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country."

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    The victim was on Sarah Palin's famous target list.

    I would imagine there is good ground to sue Palin. The victim should press charges.

    Americans should not be putting up with this crap.

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    On March 25th, Rep Giffords was interviewed on MSNBC concerning vandalism at her office in Tucson.

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    God damm right wing nut jobs!

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    Apparently the Judge was not a target, but a friend of the Congresswoman who simply happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    John McCarthy Roll

    Federal Judge Among Victims in Arizona Shooting

    January 8, 2011

    PHOENIX (AP) — A federal law enforcement official says that a federal judge was fatally shot in the attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona.

    U.S. Marshal for Arizona David Gonzales confirmed to the Associated Press that U.S. District Judge John Roll died in the attack Saturday.


    Judge John Roll Dead: Killed In Arizona Shooting

    First Posted: 01- 8-11

    Federal Judge John Roll was killed during a shooting in Arizona that also involved an attack on U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

    U.S. Marshal for Arizona David Gonzales confirmed to the Associated Press that the U.S. District Judge had died. He offered no other details on the shooting.

    Arizona Central talked to Gonzales in 2009 after Roll allowed a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit to proceed against a local rancher. The case was filed by illegal immigrants and drew the ire of local talk radio hosts, who "spurred audiences into making threats."

    In one afternoon, Roll logged more than 200 phone calls. Callers threatened the judge and his family. They posted personal information about Roll online.

    "They said, 'We should kill him. He should be dead,' " Gonzales said.

    Both Roll and his wife were given a U.S. Marshals Service protection detail at the time. Roll called the month-long protection experience "unnerving and invasive." According to Arizona Central, authorities identified four men believed to be responsible for the threats, but Roll declined to press charges at the recommendation of the Marshals Service.

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    Hm the Marshals Service needs some new leadership pronto.

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    Uncle says niece, 'typical' 9-year-old, among victims

    by Jim Cross/KTAR, Associated Press (January 8th, 2011 @ 5:45pm)

    TUCSON, Ariz. - A 9-year-old girl was among the five who died in a shooting rampage in Tucson Saturday afternoon.

    KTAR talked exclusively with her uncle Greg Segalini.

    He described her as a "typical" girl who was bright, on student council and who loved ballet.

    Segalini said the girl's family went to the event to meet Congresswoman Gabreille Giffords.

    "They just went up there because they were having the political rally.

    "And the neighbor, who also was shot, thought it would be nice if she brought Christina up to the Safeway, just to you know, just to see it and the next thing you know this happened."

    Greg Segalini said his niece's death still hasn't sunk in yet.

    "We, of course, didn't anticipate. I mean how do you prepare for something like this?"

    He said he believes the little girl was shot in the chest.

    "We went down to the hospital and she was dead."

    Giffords was shot in the head, but is expected recover.

    In all, 19 people were shot with at least five of them being in critical condition.

    A federal judge and four others were killed in the rampage that rattled the country and left politicians fearful for their safety.

    As of Saturday evening the Arizona sheriff helping investigate the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others says the gunman may not have acted alone.

    Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said at a news conference in Tucson on Saturday that authorities may have a photo of another suspect.

    People familiar with the investigation have identified the suspected gunman being held as 22-year-old Jared Loughner.

    "It is a tragedy for Arizona, and a tragedy for our entire country," President Barack Obama declared.

    Giffords, 40, is a three-term moderate Democrat who narrowly won re-election in November against a tea party candidate as conservatives across the country sought to throw her from office over her support of the health care law. Her office in Tucson was vandalized in the hours after the House passed the tcoverhaul last March as anger over the law spread across the country.

    Police say the shooter was in custody, and was identified by people familiar with the investigation as Jared Loughner, 22. Pima County Sheriff's officials said he used a 9 mm pistol to carry out the shooting spree.

    His exact motivation was not clear, but a former classmate described Loughner as a pot-smoking loner who had rambling beliefs about the world. Federal law enforcement officials were poring over versions of a MySpace page that belonged to Jared Loughner and over a YouTube video published weeks ago under an account "Classitup10" and linked to him. The MySpace page, which was removed within minutes of the gunman being identified by officials, included a mysterious "Goodbye friends" message published hours before the shooting and exhorted his friends to "Please don't be mad at me."

    In one of several Youtube videos, which featured text against a dark background, Loughner described inventing a new U.S. currency and complained about the illiteracy rate among people living in Giffords' congressional district in Arizona.

    "I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People," Loughner wrote. "Nearly all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen (sic)."

    U.S. District Judge John Roll was one of the dead. Giffords had worked with him in the past to line up funding to build a new courthouse in Yuma, and Obama hailed him for his nearly 40 years of service as a judge.

    Giffords spokesman C.J. Karamargin said three Giffords staffers were shot in the attack. One died, and the other two are expected to survive. Gabe Zimmerman, a former social worker who served as Giffords' director of community outreach, died.

    Giffords was first elected to Congress amid a wave of Democratic victories in the 2006 election, and has been mentioned as a possible Senate candidate in 2012 and a gubernatorial prospect in 2014.

    Giffords is married to astronaut Mark E. Kelly, who has piloted space shuttles Endeavour and Discovery. The two met in China in 2003 while they were serving on a committee there, and were married in January 2007. Sen. Bill Nelson, chairman of the Senate Commerce Space and Science Subcommittee, said her husband is training to be the next commander of the space shuttle mission slated for April. His brother is currently serving aboard the International Space Station, Nelson said.

    Giffords, known as "Gabby," tweeted shortly before the shooting, describing her "Congress on Your Corner" event: "My 1st Congress on Your Corner starts now. Please stop by to let me know what is on your mind or tweet me later."

    "It's not surprising that today Gabby was doing what she always does, listening to the hopes and concerns of her neighbors," Obama said. "That is the essence of what our democracy is about."

    Giffords has drawn the ire of the right in the last year, especially from politicians like Sarah Palin over her support of the health care bill. It's still not clear if the gunman had the health care debate in mind or was focused on his own unique set of political beliefs as witnessed in the Internet videos.

    Law enforcement officials said members of Congress reported 42 cases of threats or violence in the first three months of 2010, nearly three times the 15 cases reported during the same period a year earlier. Nearly all dealt with the health care bill, and Giffords was among the targets.

    Giffords' Tucson office was vandalized a few hours after the House voted to approve the health care law in March, with someone either kicking or shooting out a glass door and window. In an interview after the vandalism, Giffords referred to the animosity against her by conservatives. Palin listed Giffords' seat as one of the top "targets" in the midterm elections because of the lawmakers' support for the health care law.

    "For example, we're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is, that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district. When people do that, they have to realize that there are consequences to that action," Giffords said in an interview with MSNBC.

    In the hours after the shooting, Palin issued a statement in which she expressed her "sincere condolences" to the family of Giffords and the other victims.

    The shooting occurred at a shopping center called La Toscana Village as Giffords met with voters outside a Safeway grocery store.

    Alex Villec, 19, a volunteer for the event, told the Arizona Daily Star that the gunman asked to speak to Giffords, but Villec told him to go to the back of the line. The gunman did that, and minutes later he walked toward her.

    "He was intent," Villec said. "He was intent when he came back- a pretty stone-cold glance and glare."

    "I didn't see his gun, but it was clear who he was going for," he added. "He was going for the congresswoman."

    Villec said the shooter walked past tables and toward Giffords, then raised his hand. Villec said he heard gunshots before ducking behind a pillar.

    "It was bedlam," he said. "People were getting down on the ground. They were screaming. I just did what I could to keep myself protected."

    Villec said he did not see two men tackle the gunman but afterward spoke with one of the men who was next in line to greet Giffords.

    Law enforcement officials and reporters from around the country quickly descended on Tucson, the second biggest city in the state and home to the University of Arizona. The scene has been converted into a command post with about a dozen or so emergency vehicles and agents in FBI jackets milling about the location.

    Outside Giffords' office on Capitol Hill, a handful of congressional staffers could be seen walking into her office without comment, some with roller bags and one who was in tears. About a half dozen yellow flowers placed by one mourner sat outside the door.

    In Loughner's middle-class neighborhood- about a five-minute drive from the scene- sheriff's deputies had much of the street blocked off as curious neighbors asked what was going on. The neighborhood sits just off a bustling Tucson street and is lined with desert landscaping and palm trees.

    Neighbors said Loughner kept to himself but that they often saw him walking his dog, almost always wearing a hooded sweat shirt listening to his iPod. Neighbors said Loughner lived with his parents.

    "We're getting out of here. We are freaked out," 33-year-old David Cleveland, who lives a few doors down from Loughner's house, told The Associated Press.

    Cleveland said he was taking his wife and children, ages 5 and 7, to her parent's home when they heard about the shooting.

    "When we heard about it we just got sick to our stomachs," Cleveland said. "We just wanted to hold our kids tight."

    High school classmate Grant Wiens, 22, said Loughner seemed to be "floating through life" and "doing his own thing."

    "Sometimes religion was brought up or drugs. He smoked pot, I don't know how regularly. And he wasn't too keen on religion from what I could tell," Wiens said.

    The shooting comes amid a highly charged political environment that has seen several dangerous threats against lawmakers but nothing that reached the point of actual violence.

    A San Francisco man upset with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's support of health care reform pleaded guilty to threatening the Democratic congresswoman and her family, calling her directly on March 25 and threatening to destroy her Northern California home if she voted for health care reform.

    In July, a California man known for his anger over left-leaning politics engaged in a shootout with highway patrol officers after planning an attack on the ACLU and another nonprofit group. The man said he wanted to "start a revolution" by killing people at the ACLU and the Tides Foundation.

    During his campaign effort to unseat Giffords in November, Republican challenger Jesse Kelly held fundraisers where he urged supporters to help remove Giffords from office by joining him to shoot a fully loaded M-16 rifle. Kelly is a former Marine who served in Iraq and was pictured on his website in military gear holding his automatic weapon and promoting the event.

    "I don't see the connection," between the fundraisers featuring weapons and Saturday's shooting, said John Ellinwood, Kelly's spokesman. "I don't know this person, we cannot find any records that he was associated with the campaign in any way. I just don't see the connection.

    "Arizona is a state where people are firearms owners- this was just a deranged individual," Ellinwood said.

    Giffords is known in her southern Arizona district for her numerous public outreach meetings, which she admitted in an October interview with The Associated Press can sometimes be challenging.

    "You know, the crazies on all sides, the people who come out, the planet earth people," she said with a following an appearance with Adm. Mike Mullen in which the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was peppered with bizarre questions from an audience member. "I'm glad this just doesn't happen to me."


    Associated Press Writers Pauline Arrillaga in Tucson, Jacques Billeaud, Bob Christie and Paul Davenport in Phoenix, and Espo, Matt Apuzzo, Eileen Sullivan, Adam Goldman and Charles Babington in Washington contributed to this report.

    Copyright © 2011 Bonneville International

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    Report: Giffords Staffer Gabe Zimmerman Among The Dead

    Eric Lach
    January 8, 2011

    Gabe Zimmerman, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' director of community outreach, was one of the people killed after a gunman opened fire at an event in Arizona today, Politico reports.

    Politico adds that Zimmerman was 30 years old, and had worked for Giffords since 2007.

    Giffords was shot in the head, and 18 other people were injured, at a "Congress on Your Corner" event in the parking lot of a Safeway in Tucson this morning. There are conflicting reports as to the total number of people killed, but among the confirmed dead are Federal Judge John Roll and a 9-year old girl. One suspect, 22-year-old Jared Loughner, is in custody. Giffords underwent surgery today, and a doctor told the media this afternoon that he was 'very optimistic' about her recovery.

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    The remaining three victims:

    Dorwan Stoddard, 76, was a pastor of Mountain Ave. Church of Christ in the area.

    He performed maintenance work at the church and spent his summers traveling, according to the Arizona Daily Star. Friends said they visited all 50 states and 28 foreign countries during their trips.

    Mike Nowak, a minister at the church, told the paper that Stoddard was "a terrific guy, a jack-of-all-trades."

    Stoddard was with his wife during the shooting. She was also hit by a bullet, but is expected to survive.

    Dorothy Morris, 76, (information pending)

    Phyllis Schneck, 79, (information pending)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    The workings of a childish mind.

    Now become a lethal mind.

    Why is the press not all over this?

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    The press -- to some degree -- is all over it.

    Talking Points Memo has this headline:

    PLAYING DEFENSE? Palin Aide: Crosshairs On Target List Not Actually Gun Sights

    Even so, it seems that SarahPac has now removed the map image from their website.

    On the web Breitbart is pushing back.

    And from Fox News:

    Pima County Sheriff Sets Off Debate on Price of Free Speech

    Heightened and "vitriolic" political rhetoric is being blamed by some for the kind of violence that landed Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in intensive care following a mass casualty shooting on Saturday, but others say a blame game is hardly appropriate or useful right now.

    Pima County, Ariz., Sheriff Clarence Dupnik sparked much of the debate during a press conference Saturday evening in which he blamed talk radio and television for a decline in America.

    "I think the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business and what (we) see on TV and how our youngsters are being raised, that this has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in. And I think it's time that we do the soul-searching," the sheriff said.

    On Sunday, Dupnik didn't back down.

    "I think we're the tombstone of the United States of America," Dupnik said of The Granite State, which a day earlier he called the “Mecca” of hatred and bigotry. "To try to inflame the public on a daily basis 24 hours a day, seven days a week has impact on people, especially who are unbalanced personalities to begin with."

    ... After news broke Saturday about the shooting, Republican Sarah Palin issued a statement offering "sincere condolences" to Giffords and other victims and said her family was praying for peace and justice.

    But on Sunday, ABC reporter Dan Harris interviewed Facebook consumer marketing director Randi Zuckerberg, who said the top question being asked on Facebook is whether Palin is to blame for the violence. During the election season, Palin had written a post that used crosshairs on districts in a visualization congressional districts targeted for Republican takeover. In 2004, Democrats used bullseye targets in a similar appeal.

    A Palin aide told USA Today that the sights used on the election map were not meant to represent the sights of a gun, and any suggestion otherwise is the work of political flame-throwers.

    "This is a terrible politicization of a tragedy," former Palin aide Rebecca Monsour told the newspaper. "We don't know (the shooter's) motive. It doesn't seem like he was motivated by a political ideology. Craziness is not an ideology." ...

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    A Palin aide told USA Today that the sights used on the election map were not meant to represent the sights of a gun...
    Then what are they supposed to be, friggin peace signs? The gall.

    This should be decided in court.

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    Daniel Hernandez, intern, stays
    by Gabrielle Giffords' side

    by Jaimee Rose and Mary Jo Pitzl - Jan. 9, 2011 12:01 AM
    The Arizona Republic

    Daniel Hernandez had been U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' intern for five days when she was shot Saturday outside Tucson.

    The junior at the University of Arizona was helping check people in at the "Congress on Your Corner" event when he heard gunfire. He was about 30 feet from the congresswoman. When the shots began, he ran toward them.

    "I don't even know if the gunfire had stopped," he said Saturday night as he kept a vigil at the University Medical Center cafeteria, gathered near a TV watching tributes and getting updates.

    When the shots began that morning, he saw many people lying on the ground, including a young girl. Some were bleeding. Hernandez said he moved from person to person checking pulses.

    "First the neck, then the wrist," he said. One man was already dead. Then he saw Giffords. She had fallen and was lying contorted on the sidewalk. She was bleeding.

    Using his hand, Hernandez applied pressure to the entry wound on her forehead. He pulled her into his lap, holding her upright against him so she wouldn't choke on her own blood. Giffords was conscious, but quiet.

    Ron Barber, Giffords' district director, was next to her. Hernandez told a bystander how to apply pressure to one of Barber's wounds.

    Barber told Hernandez, "Make sure you stay with Gabby. Make sure you help Gabby."

    Hernandez used his hand to apply pressure until someone from inside Safeway brought him clean smocks from the meat department. He used them to apply pressure on the entrance wound, unaware there was an exit wound. He never let go of her.

    He stayed with Giffords until paramedics arrived. They strapped her to a board and loaded her into an ambulance. Hernandez climbed in with her. On the ride to the hospital, he held her hand. She squeezed his back.

    When they arrived at the hospital, Hernandez was soaked in blood. His family brought him clean clothes because the FBI took his for evidence.

    He waited at the hospital while she went into surgery. He needed to tell police what had happened. He overheard people walking by talking about how Giffords had died. He also heard this on NPR. Later, he learned she had lived.

    "I was ecstatic," he said. "She was one of the people I've looked up to. Knowing she was alive and still fighting was good news. She's definitely a fighter, whether for her own life, or standing up for people in southern Arizona."

    The fact that Hernandez was nearby and able to react quickly probably saved Giffords' life, said state Rep. Matt Heinz, D-Tucson, and a hospital physician. He talked to Hernandez at the hospital after the shooting.

    Eight hours after the shooting, Hernandez stood with Giffords' friends and staff and told them what had happened. The tall, strong 20-year-old said, "Of course you're afraid, you just kind of have to do what you can."

    They hugged and thanked him. Later, he sat with his mom and sisters and told them about his friends and the staffers who had died that day.

    "You just have to be calm and collected," he said. "You do no good to anyone if you have a breakdown. . . . It was probably not the best idea to run toward the gunshots, but people needed help."

    Copyright © 2011,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post

    This should be decided in court.
    That's where it might be headed ...

    Dem planning bill that would outlaw threatening lawmakers

    By Peter Schroeder

    Rep. Robert Brady (D-Pa.) reportedly plans to introduce legislation that would make it a federal crime to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or inciting violence against a federal official or member of Congress.

    Brady told CNN that he wants federal lawmakers and officials to have the same protections against threat currently provided to the president. His call comes one day after Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) was shot, along with 19 other people, at a public event in Tucson. A suspect is currently in custody.

    "The president is a federal official," Brady told CNN in a telephone interview. "You can't do it to him; you should not be able to do it to a congressman, senator or federal judge."

    Among the six people killed was Federal Judge John Roll ...

    ... Critics originally took Palin to task for the apparent use of the crosshairs of guns to identify the districts. The controversy re-ignited Saturday after the shooting, since Giffords's district was included on the map.

    Brady singled out the map as the type of rhetoric he opposed.

    "You can't put bull's-eyes or crosshairs on a United States congressman or a federal official," he said.

    However, a Palin spokeswoman denied Sunday that the image was intended to depict gun sights. Palin offered condolences to the Giffords family and other victims of the shooting on her Facebook page Saturday.

    "The rhetoric is just ramped up so negatively, so high, that we have got to shut this down," Brady said.

    © 2011 Capitol Hill Publishing Corp.

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    According to an article on MSN, the little girl's birth date was Sept. 11th, 2001.

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