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    While not intrepid, Check out this video that shows how the Kennedy space center will show off their orbiter, probably the most amazing proposal NASA received:

    Last edited by ronsmytheiii; April 16th, 2011 at 01:24 AM.

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    I would really like to just go straight to covering preparing Enterprise for delivery, but of course politics must come first so here is a general overview of what is going on:

    First:
    The Space Shuttle Retirement Act, introduced by U.S. Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), would establish California, Florida, Texas and Virginia as the permanent homes of the space shuttles. The bill designates Johnson Space Center as the home of Endeavour, Kennedy Space Center as the home of Atlantis and The Smithsonian’s National Air and Space Museum Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center as the home of Discovery.The space shuttle prototype Enterprise, promised to the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum in New York, would be sent to the California Science Center in Los Angeles.
    http://www.khou.com/news/Bipartisan-...119929709.html

    Representative Ted Poe has sent a letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, and has not ruled out a lawsuit:
    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/20...est=latestnews

    Other Congressmen from Texas have introduced a bill to force the Smithsonian to "lend" Discovery to Houston for 15 years (after which there will not be anyway to transport it out)

    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-15/t...r?_s=PM:TRAVEL

    So this process will take forever, since it is easy to hinder and hard to win..... but ultimately I expect Intrepid will keep Enterprise

    It is important to note that Houston is not just upset about not getting an Orbiter. Over the last few years with the ending of the Shuttle program, the cancellation of the follow on Constellation program, and the moving of the program headquaters for the commercial crew vehicle to Florida (political concession) have really let Houston feel cornered by the current administration, and this is why they are lashing out so much.

    But this does not help:



    No offense, but talk about kicking a man when they are down

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    For a politician, that's very undiplomatic. Speaking like that can't help anything (even though he's 100% right)

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    Finally some news on movement over at the Intrepid Museum, they are starting a fundraiser, thought thye would have had the money before hand but oh well:

    Hours after landing the shuttle, the officials launched a campaign to raise about $40 million. That money will be used to move the Enterprise here and build a glass enclosure to house it.

    For now, they’ll have to raise the money so they can afford to bring everything with the shuttle to the city. “It will have other artifacts inside the building so that the entire shuttle story can be told,” she said.
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/04/...sing-campaign/


    This weekend I could outline how Enterprise will probably be lifted off the 747 including pictures, crane types ect. if anyone is interested.

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    yes please- and thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumonkey View Post
    yes please- and thank you!

    Alright will do, will take awhile to make sure it is well written and has appropriate pictures. In the mean time, thought this photo would fit intrepid perfectly:



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    Sorry for the lack of update, was sick this weekend and so did not get to do a write up. Into finals mode/STS-134 coverage, so might be some time. Anyhow, no rush as it probably will just be filler until the whole placement debacle is settled, and construction begins. Better hurry up though, 2012 is not far away!

    Space Shuttle Endeavor is scheduled to launch 29 April 2011 15:47 EDT, and will be the last flight of Endeavour. Mark Kelly will be the commander, and his wife Gabby Giffords will attend the launch as well as President Obama.

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    A Dayton video raises some alarming concerns about the Intrepid Museum's care of artifacts:


    http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/is-new-...red-shuttle%3F

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    Here is an article last year of the condition of Enterprise as it was inspected to certify that it could still be carried on the 747, gives a good overview of the orbiter herself and pictures of the inspection (including a few taken by myself)

    http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/...y-smithsonian/

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    For a quick update, the transportation issue is setting up to be different than what I expected so need to better understand how it will work before posting here.

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    KSC recently finished and tested the portable sling that will be used to move the orbiters:





    - At the Shuttle Landing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, workers practice assembly and disassembling a mobile sling and crane, part of a portable mate-demate device (image left). The portable sling and crane will be used to lift shuttles off their 747 carrier aircraft for delivery to museums next year. Shuttle Discovery will go to the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum, Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Chantilly, Va., Endeavour will go to the California Science Center in Los Angeles and Enterprise will be moved from the Smithsonian to the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum in New York. Shuttle Atlantis will go to the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex and won't require use of the portable sling and crane. Photo credit: NASA/Jim Grossmann
    Still trying to figure out whether they will use local cranes or still going to airlift their own.

    higher resolution here:

    http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/det...?mediaid=53790
    Last edited by ronsmytheiii; June 24th, 2011 at 10:36 AM.

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    A simple overlook was built under the ramps of the ship terminal. Vintage posters and photos.



    Hopefully, the future home of Enterprise. Wonder what they're going to do with the Concorde.

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    These are shots from the sling lift used to mount Columbia to the Shuttle Carrier aircraft when she landed at White Sands, New Mexico in 1982 which was the only time a shuttle has landed at a site other than Edwards AFB or KSC.




    Obviously the cranes used then are different, looks like the new one two posts above uses less cranes so will need to gather information about it.

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    Approximately 200 visitors to the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum got an unexpected treat as they watched the launch of the final NASA Space Shuttle Mission, #STS-135, on the 60-foot video wall in the museum on Friday, July 8.

    Cheers went up as the Atlantis cleared the tower at Kennedy Space Center.

    President Susan Marenoff-Zausner and other members of the executive team at the Intrepid were on hand in Florida to watch the launch in person.

    “It was awe-inspiring and breathtaking to see and experience,” said Marenoff. “While each launch has special meaning, this one marked the end of one phase of the shuttle, and the beginning of its next phase- one that Intrepid is honored to partake in by receiving the Enterprise and having it be the centerpiece of a space exploration center.”
    http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/About-...NCH-OF-FI.aspx

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    It will take two large cranes, a specially built sling, four masts and about 45 people to perform the complex maneuvers to safely lift a space shuttle off the back of a modified 747. Because it hasn't been done in more than 20 years, teams rehearsed the lift on the Shuttle Landing Facility's ramp at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

    It is a scene coming soon to Washington, D.C., Los Angeles and New York as NASA's shuttles are handed over to museums for public display. Each of those cities will receive one of the shuttles, including Enterprise, the prototype shuttle used to prove the design could glide safely to a landing after returning from orbit. One of the shuttles, Atlantis, will be displayed at Kennedy.

    "People have different emotions about it, but I'm kind of honored to put them in their final display location," said Casey Wood of United Space Alliance's Integrated Landing Operations. He is part of the team that will oversee the work.

    During the more than 30 years the space shuttles were in development and launching, they have been lifted onto and off of 747s numerous times, most often when the shuttle landed at Edwards Air Force Base in California. Those moves were performed by specially designed structures at Kennedy and in California called "mate-demate devices." The MDDs, as they are called, are shaped to let the 747, called the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft, or SCA, wheel in beneath a sling that lifts and holds the shuttle.

    Only once did a shuttle not land in either location, and that was back in 1983 at White Sands Space Harbor in New Mexico. Had the shuttle made an emergency landing overseas or at a different runway, the mobile system would have been taken there to load the shuttle to the SCA.

    The mobile lift system was used in 1985 when Enterprise moved to Washington, D.C.

    "This system has been stored in cargo containers for more than 20 years, and that's why we wanted to do the test," Wood said. "We were just missing the plane and the orbiter."

    The shuttle will weigh about 175,000 pounds -- more than 87 tons -- when it is readied for public viewing. That's a heavy enough load to cause a crane's boom to flex slightly.

    "The actual lift is probably the biggest challenge," Wood said. "With our lift, we can only go directly up or directly down. It's strictly vertical, there's no lateral movement."

    To get it right, the team trucked all the gear out of storage over to the Shuttle Landing Facility and set it up.

    The sling is almost identical to the ones used at the MDDs, used to hoist the shuttle and mate or demate to the SCA. This sling was used in Palmdale, Calif., where the shuttles were built, and used to lift the shuttle there.

    The setup includes four masts that connect to the sling.

    "That gives us our steadiness and wind restraint," Wood said.

    They had to drill about 200 holes in the ramp to anchor the different elements firmly. With everything in place, they can perform the work in winds up to about 20 mph.

    With this test accomplished, Wood said the team is reworking a few procedures to adapt them to the different locations. Discovery is scheduled to be the first shuttle to go through the operation for real, when it is ferried up to Washington, D.C., for display at the Smithsonian's Air and Space Museum in the spring of 2012.
    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sh...awaytesst.html




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