Reply With QuoteI do believe i used the word "amounts"- not "taking" in my post... glad you see the light
O.K. I see now after re-reading your post.Originally Posted by scumonkey
I must say that you are not being entirely forthright in what you have stated in your post, it is very misleading.
That additional hight was legal, it was a FAR bonus. You are doing a little 'word-play' here: perhaps not intended, but it will likely deceive the reader into thinking that something like "a bribe" has taken place. Not nice. (LOL)
So, you are not 'saying' that "the Mayor is taking a bribe" - you are only 'saying' that the payment "amounts to a bribe to the mayor".
Now I 'get it'.
I do believe i used the word "amounts"- not "taking" in my post... glad you see the light
That sucks, scumonkey. Light is even more precious to an artist.This one is gonna cut off the last of my direct sun from the east
A shame those beautiful details weren't saved too. 1889. Imagine that.
You're talking 100% nonsense.
Obviously there's no indication of bribes, nor is there indication the mayor is in any way involved in this project.
And are you a zoning lawyer? I'm guessing you have no idea what you're talking about re. zoning. The building is the same height and bulk as everything else going on on those blocks.
And the number of nearby surface parking lots is completely irrevelent. Obviously a development group can only build on sites they own. Why would other potential land assemblages have any relevance?
And your taking me 100% too literally.You're talking 100% nonsense.
Never said I was, and I don't have to be to know a bit about what I'm talking about. I own a chunk of property on that block.are you a zoning lawyer? I'm guessing you have no idea what you're talking about re. zoning.
A good portion of it facing in toward the center on the backside of a building. I made it my business to find out
what the zoning was before I purchased, as I didn't want a big wall put up afterwards blocking my views.
At the time new construction was allowed to only rise to a height of about 12 stories (keeping it below my property).
Then we got Bloomberg and Hudson Yards- and all that zoning went out the window.
-and I'm sorry but getting a FAR bonus by contributing $1,619,895 to the Hudson Yards District Improvement Fund; that bumps you up from FAR 10.0 to FAR 12.0 is bull$shit.
Especially since my block will never see a penny worth of benefit from it.
I'm sorry this happened to you, but zoning changes all the time. Just because you bought under a certain neighborhood zoning doesn't guarantee that zoning in perpetuity.
They could zone for 100 floor buildings tomorrow, or they could rezone for single family homes. Or they could landmark the whole thing.
Zoning really is dynamic and ever-changing. Sometimes it sucks for certain parties, but that's expected in a complex and ever-changing city.
Not defending the Zoning Bonus for $$, but the business-minded guys who run NYC would probably tell you that the nearby HY development will increase your property's value. Nevermind that it will probably also increase your property taxes, and your costs could rise to a level that makes staying in your current property nearly impossible. Is the zoning bonus ultimately de-stabilizing to the current residents & businesses in the area involved? Seems that isn't of much a concern to those in charge.
We're seeing similar situations down in SoHo, regarding both re-zoning and a proposed business improvement district.
Skyline views
Below are a couple photos of the skyline facing west at different angles from the building where I am a tenant showing several newly constructed 27 or so story buildings between 8th and 9th Ave in the 30's. I will be losing the views that I currently enjoy from my office as a tenant once the building is completed. I will be looking at a wall about 8 feet from my window. It just seems to me to be too small of a lot to be squeezing in a 27 story building. There was a reason that most buildings in this area on the Avenues are 27 plus stories and the buildings in the middle of the streets between the Avenues were mostly 12 stories. That is what the zoning in the area had previously reflected. But I guess money and donations can change things. There will be 5 buildings and numerous people that will be negatively affected and will have less rent income. I am sure they won't receive a tax reduction. Just my opinion and I am not a zoning attorney.
Last edited by gilky22; July 7th, 2011 at 03:28 PM.
Skyline views
Last edited by gilky22; July 7th, 2011 at 04:26 PM.
Not a single attractive new one to be seen.
There was a reason the old zoning regulations included the sky exposure plane angle for set backs. Here we're seeing why it's not necessarily the best idea to get rid of that regulation on these narrow side streets.
Who could object? I could.
Do you think construction work in midtown Manhattan is so pristine and perfect that anyone should be happy to live next door to it? Think again. Over on the East side, it turned out that shoddy construction resulted in "a dust that had higher levels of a carcinogen than what was found at Ground Zero."
Go to:
file:///Users/rk/Desktop/'Toxic'%20dust-up%20at%20Midtown%20apartment%20building%20-%20NYPOST.com.html
Then join the line of people contacting Microecologies Inc., the testing firm. Higher than ground zero? Come on all of you. To hell with them building up to the lot line. I am more concerned with what we will be breathing in, night and day, while the construction is going up. And how many of us will be alive to complain about it 10 years from now.
Construction will be starting very soon. I will post overhead photos during the work if people are interested.
digging photo
Future cityscape of far west side.
That could be Guangzhou or Nanjing or Chongqing or any number of Chinese cities.
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