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    I think the Defense generally let them down yesterday (not just the line) especially the run defense. The line played terribly but so did the LB's. Going into the game, they knew they had to maintain the edge on runs to the outside yet they still managed to fail miserably. And Scott is still looking for his jock strap after Moore's end run.

    I have no idea what Cromartie was doing. 4 pass interference penalties? Their receivers are not that good.

    Oakland is good, but they are one dimensional on offense. The Jets should have been able to shut them down
    Last edited by eddhead; September 26th, 2011 at 02:16 PM.

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    IMO the D just mailed it in this weekend because they didn't take the Raiders seriously. They saw the schedule and figured this was the easy game so they didn't show up and got embarrassed.

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    Default After Five Games, Jets Part Ways With Mason

    It looks like Kerley is the new fulltime slot receivor

    October 11, 2011
    After Five Games, Jets Part Ways With Mason

    By BEN SHPIGEL and JUDY BATTISTA

    The day after Rex Ryan said that Derrick Mason remained an important part of their offensive revival, the Jets shipped him to the Houston Texans late Tuesday night for a conditional draft pick.

    Mason signed in August hoping to win the championship that has eluded him over a 15-year career, but his minimal production over the Jets’ first five games persuaded them that the rookie Jeremy Kerley, who caught a touchdown pass Sunday against New England, would be a better option.

    The Jets did not announce the trade, but Mason confirmed in a text message that he had been dealt; he declined further comment. The team’s concerns about Mason, 37, were evident during their 30-21 loss to the Patriots, when Kerley received the majority of snaps in three-receiver sets. Over all, Kerley appeared in 18 plays to Mason’s 6. Against the Patriots, Mason caught one pass, running his season total to 13 and putting him on pace for 41, well short of the Jets’ expectations.

    “Let’s face it: I thought Derrick would catch 80-90 balls,” Ryan said Monday. “That hasn’t happened.”

    Nor has the Jets’ offense performed as hoped, sputtering the last two games and producing an overall average of 297.4 yards, 28th in the N.F.L. Trading Mason provides a jolt, elevating the 23-year-old Kerley, whom the Jets have praised for his impressive practices and quick grasp of the offense. But it also thins out their receiving corps, leaving it vulnerable in the event of injury to the starters, Santonio Holmes or Plaxico Burress.
    On Monday, Ryan stressed that Mason’s benching was unrelated to the critical comments he made Oct. 2 in Baltimore, when he said there were “cracks” in the team’s offense, or his appearance in a Daily News report stating that he, Holmes and Burress had met individually with Ryan to complain about the team’s offensive system.

    The Jets issued a statement dismissing the report. All three players denied it after Sunday’s game, as did Ryan, who emphatically refuted it again Monday, when Mason seemed part of their plans. Now he is not.

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    Santonio Holmes, team captain.

    How's that working out.

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    ask BS

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    Hey Brian, would you come out from under that bus for a minute? I have a few questions.

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    Lol

    At the end of the day it is on the head coach, not the OC. The Jets' big problem is the O-line. They cannot protect the qb, and they cannot open up holes for the running backs. Other than than they're doing a fine job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddhead View Post
    Lol

    At the end of the day it is on the head coach, not the OC. The Jets' big problem is the O-line. They cannot protect the qb, and they cannot open up holes for the running backs. Other than than they're doing a fine job.
    You're right, if only the Jets had a better O-line, they could consistently call that 5-yard slant play on 3rd and 9 instead of having Greene run into a brick wall

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    Now's when you find out how good a coach Ryan is.

    Why is the line only 7?

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    Default Giants Still Own City’s Hearts, but Jets Are Closing in Fast

    Giants Still Own City’s Hearts, but Jets Are Closing in Fast
    By WILLIAM C. RHODEN[/h]EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J.

    Lawrence Taylor, the great Giants linebacker, once said that Jets fans were Giants fans who couldn’t get Big Blue season tickets. That might have been true once upon a time, but not anymore.

    Sunday’s 30-21 loss at New England notwithstanding, the Jets have been hot under Rex Ryan. But how hot and for how long?

    Five games into the season, the Giants aren’t simply battling to win games and a playoff spot; Big Blue, a pillar of the N.F.L., is also battling to hold onto a dominant position over the Jets.

    On the field, in the stands and in news media attractiveness, the Jets have had increased success the last two years. The most surprising aspect of the Jets’ surge is how the franchise has managed to cut into the Giants’ traditional stranglehold on buzz, news media exposure and public preference without having won championships.

    So how is it that the Jets have gained such significant ground? The answer lies in Ryan.

    Ryan is the N.F.L.’s latest P. T. Barnum, with outrageous claims and a penchant for drama. Two summers ago, HBO’s “Hard Knocks” introduced Ryan to the world and brought the Jets national attention. In the last two seasons, Ryan has taken the Jets further than Tom Coughlin has taken the Giants. The Giants have missed the last two postseasons; the Jets have reached consecutive conference championship games.

    After last season, Ryan declared his team the Giants’ “big brother.”

    “The Jets have caught up, if not in a broad, deep-seated way; they have created fan excitement,” said Rich Golden, the president of HN Media and Marketing. “Giants fans are loyal in a more institutional way, but now the Jets are on par with the Giants. The Jets with Rex Ryan have solidified their base.”

    There are a number of ways to measure franchise popularity.

    According to Nielsen, last season, more television viewers in the New York media market tuned in to Jets games than Giants games. The Jets averaged a 15.8 local rating during the regular season compared with a 15.7 for the Giants.

    So far this season, the Jets have moved ahead of the Giants in average attendance, 78,768 to 78,470; it that holds up, it would be the first time the Jets have outdrawn the Giants since they began sharing a stadium in 1984.

    The Giants do retain some advantages.

    According to Forbes magazine, the Giants are valued at $1.30 billion, fourth highest in the league for the fourth year in a row, compared with the Jets at $1.22 billion, good for fifth, up a spot from the 2010 rankings.

    Michael Stevens, the Giants’ chief marketing officer, said the team ranked in the N.F.L.’s top three in sponsorship and ticket revenue. Jennifer Renda, a senior market specialist at the media buyer UM, told Sports Business Daily that the Jets and the Giants “command $50,000 to $70,000 for a 30-second local television spot.” She predicted that the Jets would eventually “edge out the Giants and command 10 percent to 15 percent more.”

    And according to Scarborough Sports Research, in the past year, 40 percent of adults in the New York area watched, listened to or attended a Giants game, compared with 37 percent for the Jets; the gap was 8 percentage points in 2009.

    “We are focused on ourselves,” Stevens said. “We are focused on our games, our fans, our coach. Our rivals are Dallas, Washington Philadelphia. All the other stuff with the Jets is just fun.”

    The fact that the two franchises share a stadium — MetLife — defuses some of the animosity among the players. In fact, in many ways the Jets and the Giants are more business partners than rivals.

    Jimmy Kennedy, a Giants defensive tackle and a native of Yonkers, said the spirit of partnership trumped the Jets-Giants rivalry. “True New Yorkers are rooting for the Giants just like they’re rooting for the Jets,” he said. “When they battle each other — that’s when the separation comes.”

    Which team “owns” the city?

    “It depends on who you ask,” said Kennedy, whose father loves the Giants and whose uncle was a fan of the Jets. “I’m biased, but the respect for the Jets is always there.”

    Kareem McKenzie, a mainstay on the Giants’ offensive line, was drafted by the Jets in 2001 and played with them for four seasons. He joined the Giants as a free agent in 2005 and won a Super Bowl ring for the 2007 season. He subscribes to the idea that the Jets have to win a championship before they can talk about pulling even with the Giants.

    “Realistically, I think they have to win two,” McKenzie said. “They have had a long drought. They have been talking about winning a Super Bowl for a long time. They were talking about it when I was there.”

    Punter Steve Weatherford is another Jet turned Giant, signing with the Giants after two seasons with the Jets.

    “When I got here, Giants fans were asking me what it was like to have been on the dark side,” Weatherford said.

    For all that has contributed to the perception that the Jets have gained ground on the Giants, the element the Jets cannot match is tradition. The Giants helped the N.F.L. gain credibility in 1925 by establishing a team in New York. Tim Mara paid $500 for the franchise because he thought that having exclusive rights to anything in New York was worth the price. The Giants had that exclusivity until the Titans, who would become the Jets, began play in the A.F.L. in 1960.

    The Jets won the Super Bowl in 1969. The Giants won Super Bowls in 1987, 1991 and 2008 and N.F.L. championships in 1927, 1934, 1938 and 1956.

    “There is so much more history here,” Weatherford said. “When you think of New York football, as an outsider, the first thing I would think of would be the New York Giants because they have been here forever.”

    Five decades later, however, the Jets have nearly pulled even.

    Nearly.

    “I think Rex is going to have to get a couple rings,” Weatherford said. “At the end of the day, what we’re all judged on is our track record.”
    Ryan’s team is winning the war of words and the battle for the public’s hearts and minds, but the Jets have to continue to win games. They fell to 2-3 on Sunday, but the Giants stumbled and lost to the Seattle Seahawks, 36-25, and are 3-2.

    “The Giants can afford to have one or two off years,” Golden said. “The Jets don’t have that luxury. They have to keep winning to continue to build their fan base.”

    As Kennedy left the Giants’ locker room last week, he summed up the Jets.

    “We can talk here about Giants versus Jets, but I think it comes down to who’s doing what on the field, who’s really making noise and not just talking about it, “ he said. “When it’s all said and done, in the last 10 years, who gave you more championships? Now look at the last 20 years: who gave you more championships? So whose city is it?”

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    The trouble with this is stability.

    The Giants fan base seems to be capable of weathering bad stretches and remain intact. The Jets went to the playoffs the last two years, and here they are in a crisis at the 1/3 mark of the season.

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    Well, they're still showing up, but we'll see what happens if the slump continues. This will be a big week for the Jets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddhead View Post
    Well, they're still showing up, but we'll see what happens if the slump continues. This will be a big week for the Jets.
    Definitely big for the Jets to come out and dominate the Dolphins. If they lose then there's not much hope for the season. Right now they're in full damage control mode trying to cover up the internal discord over Brian Schottenheimer. Everybody is expected to fall in line and play their role, so if they lose on Monday the sh** is really going to hit the fan

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    BIg win for the Jets although an ugly one. Still some good things to build on especially if you look past the 1st qtr. Pass protection was better, and although the commentators disagreed, I thought sanchez played well in qtrs 2,3 and 4. They also ran the ball better in late in the game. They have to get Plaxico involved.

    I would love to see more of McKight in the offence, either in the slot, or out of the backfield.

    San Diego is next at home. Should be a big test.

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    The only positive I saw was a W .

    Dolphins are the deadest of the dead. They are playing for Luck.

    I don't blame them. Since Dan Marino retired, they've started more QBs than any other team.

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