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    Just looking at disapproval because, of all things, Iran and Gas is preposterous.

    Gas prices are controlled more by our lauded and fiercely defended "free market", and Iran is, well, Iran.

    I am hoping this is just an anomalous bubble in the poll field and we do not see the public as "fickle" as the Times is saying.

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    Conventional wisdom is that oil prices are controlled by the market and as such are beyond the influence of the President. Unfortunately, much of the electorate does not agree with conventional wisdom.

    My own view is that their is room for geopolictal policies to effect the price of oil. For instance, one could argue that sanctions have a real or preceived effect on the supply of oil and thus price. I say perceived because 30% of the worlds supply of crude is controlled by speculators. Just the hint of a possible disruption is enough to cause hording and impact worldwide pricing.

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    The Santorum campaign goes international.


    In the Loop

    Rick Santorum spokeswoman’s Dutch treat

    By Emily Heil

    The Loop would like to bestow a special award, the Superglue Award for Adherence to Talking Points, (or the Glueys) to Alice Stewart, spokeswoman for Rick Santorum.

    In an impressive show of unwillingness to divert from script during an interview with a Dutch journalist posted on YouTube, Stewart subbornly repeats the phrase “Rick is strong pro-life” over and over again. However, that answer had little to do with what the poor fellow was seeking, which was a response to Santorum’s widely-refuted claims that 10 percent of all deaths in the Netherlands are from euthanasia-- half of which are involuntarily — and also that elderly folks wear bracelets requesting that they not be put to death.

    Our own Fact Checker, Glenn Kessler, concluded there was “not a shred of evidence to back up Santorum’s claims about euthanasia in the Netherlands,” and they were widely mocked in Dutch media.

    The clip is entertaining for a number of reasons, including the Dutch subtitles and Stewart’s perma-smile. But what really won over the judges was the wink she offers (see 1:12), as if to say, “C’mon, you know I’ve got a job to do here.”

    Watch and learn, aspiring flacks, because this is how it’s done.



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    Notice how "pro-life" doesn't even translate in Dutch. And I will imagine that there wouldn't need to be a translation. "Pro-life" is just a term Conservatives drum up to gain support and possibly cast Liberals as "pro-death".

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    "I gave you an answer".

    No, you gave him a gaffe. (Or maybe a Gaff).

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    On Social Issues, Rick Santorum Can’t Help Himself

    By Michael Crowley March 16, 2012

    When it comes to religion and morality, Rick Santorum is in a tricky position. He is clearly guided by his devout Catholic faith and most passionate about cultural values. And that explains a lot of his appeal among conservative voters. At the same time, Santorum knows that Mitt Romney makes a powerful case that Santorum’s social conservatism could cost the GOP droves of independent voters, and especially women, in November.

    In response, Santorum argues that he’s been unfairly pigeonholed. He tends to lay off the God stuff in his television interviews and televised primary-night speeches. But the man just can’t help himself. In Puerto Rico on Wednesday, Santorum was asked, once again, about his famous comment that John F. Kennedy’s 1960 address promising that he would not take marching orders from the Vatican made him want to puke: “[H]e went far too far in separating out faith in the public square absolutely, and that’s what he said, he said people of faith have no role in public discourse. That is, of course, incorrect. That is not what the First Amendment says,” Santorum replied.

    But Kennedy didn’t say that, or anything particularly close to it–a point that people have been making for a while now, apparently to Santorum’s deaf ears. And Santorum is not going to overcome his reputation for religious zealotry if shows so little ability for self-awareness and engagement with his critics. In fact, the question simply sent him rushing back to politically dangerous terrain, per the New York Times:
    But Mr. Santorum was off and rolling, and he was far more passionate on this topic than anything else that came up during his day. He jumped from there to the subject of President Obama’s recent order that employers, including religious-affiliated hospitals, colleges and other institutions, cover contraception in employees’ insurance policies.

    “The left wants to try to twist this and turn this into something having to do with sex,” he declared. “No. It has everything to do with freedoms and religious beliefs and the government’s ability to impose their values on people of faith and denying people of faith access to the public square to make their arguments.”
    Incidentally, it was Rush Limbaugh, not “the left,” who turned a law student’s testimony into a monologue about sex tapes and prostitution. More to the point, Santorum simply doesn’t seem this animated when talking about, say, his manufacturing tax credit. And that’s fine. He is who he is: a social-conservative crusader who believes in a society organized around theological values. But he’s not very good at pretending otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post

    Rick Santorum Can’t Help Himself

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    Santorum’s Moral Based Gender Preference

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    Hand it to Rick for re-acquainting America with a time when things were so much simpler, back when men were men and women otherwise ...


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    The race (hmmmm) this year is going to be real fun ...

    Crazy Talk: 'Don't Re-Nig' Bumper Sticker

    Well. So much for subtle, covert racism, and so much for people who can't stand Obama because he's black making up other reasons to justify their opposition. Apparently a company is selling -- and people are actually buying and proudly displaying -- "Don't Re-Nig" bumper stickers to gear up for the 2012 presidential election.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eddhead View Post
    Conventional wisdom is that oil prices are controlled by the market and as such are beyond the influence of the President. Unfortunately, much of the electorate does not agree with conventional wisdom.

    My own view is that their is room for geopolictal policies to effect the price of oil. For instance, one could argue that sanctions have a real or preceived effect on the supply of oil and thus price. I say perceived because 30% of the worlds supply of crude is controlled by speculators. Just the hint of a possible disruption is enough to cause hording and impact worldwide pricing.
    Although the President does not set oil prices, there are things that our government can do to try to bring down the price. A lot of the price is due to speculation, and simply making statements and/or doing things to deflate some of the speculation has worked in the past. Things like supporting additional domestic oil exploration, hinting at accessing the oil reserve, or, even better, announcing some deals with oil producing countries who agree to increase production to make up the slack if Iran decides to block shipments. Not saying any of these are the best idea, just possibilities. What Americans in general don't care for is leaders who say there is nothing they can do, make excuses, or blame somebody else.

    Even though it may sound silly for someone like Newt Gingrich to claim he can bring back $2.50 gas, President Obama saying he really has no control over gas prices is a poor strategic move. True or not true, no one wants to hear that from our leader. This is especially true when the suspicion of many is that many Dems would be happy if gas prices went sky high, to force people cut back on their use of fossil fuels and adopt more "green" behavior.

    Again, perception is reality when it comes to politics. I am just saying don't be surprised if Obama saying that he can't do much to affect gas prices lowers his approval rating, because people don't want to hear that.

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    Oh, troubled little Dicky, who fears stepping near the gutter ...

    Santorum Charges Ahead With Anti-Porn Crusade

    TALKING POINTS MEMO

    By Sahil Kapur
    March 18, 2012


    Rick Santorum has garnered quite a bit of attention recently for his animated remarks against pornography, and on two separate Sunday shows the Republican presidential candidate refused to cede an inch, doubling down on his crusade against “hard-core pornography.”

    A recently added section on the candidate’s website declares that America is “suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography,” and laments that the “Obama Administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws.” The site goes on to say that the Justice Department “seems to favor pornographers over children and families.”


    But what will he do about his good Book?

    Ezekiel 23:20

    New International Version (NIV)

    There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.


    Can anyone explain Ezekiel 23:20 ? I need to explain it to my child?

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    With all the problems in the US and World, Santorum wants to pretend we can go back to 1950. If it were up to him, that pesky last half century would never have happened, and little Bobby would be asking little Suzie to the sock hop -- if it was OK with her Dad and he brought her home by 10.

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    Hehehe .
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    Jesus Christ.

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